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Kam said:
appearance and "game is worth playing" are two totally different things. Personally I don't like new dante's jacket, I feel like the wide hanging hoody look is douchy. The hair color I was actually in favor of; since it's a prequel, a dark haired douchebag that somehow ends up as a white haired upbeat cheeseball means something huge must have happened, and it would make for an amazing story to tell
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The thing is that's also part of the problem. When a person says something simple like that without really giving any criticism that is constructive in the end, it's easy for it to lead to the assumption that they don't like the hair. That is a part of his appearance.

I had to get used to it since the original Dante was the one I kept picturing when I'd hear the name. Now I just don't notice how he looks. I like him more than the original because the new Dante was able to get me to feel more about the character and the story. He could look like Kain from Legacy of Kain and I wouldn't care. Then again I did favor Kain anyway.
 
EllDawn said:
The thing is that's also part of the problem. When a person says something simple like that without really giving any criticism that is constructive in the end, it's easy for it to lead to the assumption that they don't like the hair. That is a part of his appearance.

I had to get used to it since the original Dante was the one I kept picturing when I'd hear the name. Now I just don't notice how he looks. I like him more than the original because the new Dante was able to get me to feel more about the character and the story. He could look like Kain from Legacy of Kain and I wouldn't care. Then again I did favor Kain anyway.
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Well, he kinda reminds me of No More Heroes' main protagonist anti-hero Travis Touchdown for some reason. In fact, his sibling relationship with his brother is like Classic Dante and Vergil's! My friend told me that and he's right. He does remind me of Travis.

At first I was "I don't care what Dante looks like as long as he kicks demons' asses." And I knew it. He still kicks demons' asses. Appearances aren't everything, you know?

More reason for me to be a fan of both DMC and DmC! :D
 
Chancey289 said:
People took whatever they wanted from a lot of things. Interpreting things in their own way. And for some weird reason an obsession with one guy. It's funny how fans are acting like people at NT cast the first stone. No they didn't. Can that dude, whatever the f#ck his name is, be a little arrogant? Yes.

Did he also play it passive to a lot of fans who were berating him? Yes. We had fans who sent death threats as well as some guy on Twitter who berated him every single day photoshopping his face on gay dudes. If he had a few come backs for the obnoxious people in this fan base then I don't blame him. Don't fling sh!t if you aren't prepared for someone to fling it back.

Geez, people were acting like NT killed their dogs or raped their parents. There are worst people in the gaming industry. Peter Moleneux being one of the worst in my opinion. That guy is the king of liars in the industry. Hideki Kamiya, the guy the some people in the DMC fanbase worships the ground he f#cking walks on is can even just be a freaking douchbag in my opinion. I know of the stuff he's done. Especially recently when he responded to some fans with a very unprovoked "F#ck off" about Smash Bros. 4.

This complaining that's still not letting up and over the most trivial of things is a crying shame man.
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Just as much as there are people blind to others' beliefs, there are also people caught up in their own self-beliefs too. They never open their minds to seek the truth of things.

Tameem Antonaides (remember his name, Chancey. Write it down on your hand if you can't use your head (Jester reference!)) may have to take it hard to learn his lesson through his past actions now that he remained passive as you said. Now we got Hideki Kamiya cussing, from good director to arrogant snobby prick; you're right on that. In fact, in some of his Tweets, he doesn't give specific answers regarding DMC, but one of his worst responses is "Ask Capcom"; this doesn't apply to just DMC though as it also applies to other works he made first which he no longer has rights to, like with Okami. It would be best not to pester him further regarding anything to do with Crampsicom...

Now that you said NT didn't threw the first stone, maybe I can say that DmC did not cause the division of the fanbase. The fanbase divided itself due to not being open to change...

And now I feel disillusioned as a general Devil May Cry fan... We got narrow-minded pricks within the fanbase and arrogant game creators! Geez!

EDIT: It's time to stop taking things in a personal level which would end up in a world of hurt (Taskmaster reference)!
 
EllDawn said:
If you've looked at comments on DmC pictures posted on facebook, the majority of them say something akin to, "The old Dante/Vergil looked better." Followed by several replies agreeing. They're not specifying hair, but it's still the character's appearance. And they don't say anything more than that. Maybe if they'd actually give reasons for being against the game, instead of comparing how the two Dantes look, they'd actually be respected for their opinions.
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Let me elaborate for all of those people ok?

original Dante is better than NTDante - because he is the original. There is no "old" and "new". Original Dante is not old. This is same thing with Alex Mercer and James Heller, and Raiden and Snake. People like the first more. And often's its not just because he was the first, but because they prefer him more.
Let me give a e.g of that: I like original Dante because he doesn't come off as a pretentious character to me. Something like "Iam so cool, i walk by myself only, i dont give a crap".
Original Dante isnt like that. He doesn't try to be anyone except the concept of himself. He is not pandering to teens in other words. Something i think NTDante is doing.

Now other reasons why originals are better.
They are more powerful.
They look better, in devil trigger as well.

Reasons why NTDante isn't that cool:
- He was created by a guy who thinks original Dante is laughable and no longer cool. Which is bs.
You can argue "If a cosplayer went into a bar people would give weird looks", yeah sure. But if Dante existed he wouldn't be a cosplayer, his coat would be stylish and be of highest possible quality.
And his hair would be natural white hair that looks natural and healthy. Something a white hair wig can not do. On top of that Dante would have great body with six packs.
And his sword and guns would be real not cosplay versions or replicas.
Also the most important thing about Dante is that he's a video game character i.e he was never designed to fit into a contemporary setting. Though he is quite realistic anatomy wise.

I have no issue with Tameem doing his job, but his job is not to give us his opinion on how original Dante is not cool anymore and is laughable sight, his job is to create a rebooted character that many people did not ask for. And when your job is that, you better be careful with what you say.
Don't worry though i won't send death threats to Tameem or curse him out on any social media, but i will critize him for his stupidity yeah. It's only fair no?

Anyway i am not interested into going into a discussion about "Tameem said this Tameem did that", i am just saying - this guy made NTDante. Not a good start for me to open up to NTDante or DmC in general. It's like "I dislike reboots and rebooting of characters, and DmC is definetly a unecessary reboot, then comes this guy and tells me original Dante is also not cool hence why rebooting was necessary... Ok---->get bent."

:D
 
Jak said:
but the story was written before the game's release (i might be wrong but i'm pretty sure thats what happened). besides, in reboots things like that tend to happen. like in tombraider when lara got the twin pistols at the end.
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Alright, but what's your point, exactly? I doubt the plot went into specific details about Dante's hair color. I'd imagine that they could change his hair color to red if they really wanted to.

Anyway, not that I had a problem with Dante's hair color; it was just the sarcastic joke that bugged me at the time. It seemed a bit disrespectful toward the old DMC's overall personality. Dante is, after all, the DMC posterboy.
 
VineBigBoss said:
I don't think it really matters if they tried to offend or not, but the thing is: some people felt like this was a poke to the old fanbase, and well, this backfired at them. It is their problem if they make some joke that can be misunderstanded, i think if it was really an irony with Dante's fate, they could came to public and say that they were sincerely sorry and the joke was not meant to offend the old fans or even the very creators of the character that made his hair white and long.
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That's the real problem with the joke: bad PR, bad evaluation of the situation. Whatever their intentions were, be it to make a light joke or to take a little revenge on haters, it was not a wise thing to put a joke like this in the game, because it addressed an issue that, more or less rightfully so, had become quite delicate.
Now, if you want your game to be sold, you should be careful you don't pi$$ off your fanbase, especially if it's already divided, shouldn't you?

IncarnatedDemon said:
Let me elaborate for all of those people ok?

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I'm sure your elaboration is a good explanation of all those people complaints, Incarnated. But the problem is different. The problem is that THEY didn't elaborate and by not elaborating they made it easier for other people (who are not completely innocent either) to ridiculize their complaints.
 
Indeed Lyssec. And it could be a poke at original fans.

For one - if the wig scene was meant to be ironic - doesn't the white hair devil trigger kinda devalue the point of the wig scene?

And didn't they worked on character design the most the first year?
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
Indeed Lyssec. And it could be a poke at original fans.

For one - if the wig scene was meant to be ironic - doesn't the white hair devil trigger kinda devalue the point of the wig scene?

And didn't they worked on character design the most the first year?
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In the end, the hair is permanently white. A great irony indeed...

EDIT: Maybe there are those of NT who are DMC fans themselves. Seen the early concept arts that Dante is so close to the original? I think Tameem is not one of them.
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
Nope, we're still bitching.

If you can't see that what the wig scene has caused, if you dont want to bitch about it then stand aside.
I'll bitch alone.
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If you're gonna bitch about something so small and so trivial, then don't spam/flood this thread. Keep it to yourself, ID!

I know what it's like to take things too personally; it got me in a larger world of hurt.

Edit: I'm with DragonMaster here. I would advice you, ID, to stop escalating this thread into a pointless flamewar. You may have valid points, but I think you're steeped up in your own self-beliefs!
 
IncarnatedDemon said:
Nope, we're still bitching.
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No.You're the only one who's still complaining.

IncarnatedDemon said:
If you can't see that what the wig scene has caused, if you dont want to bitch about it then stand aside.
I'll bitch alone.
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There. You just admitted that you're the only one who complains. And the New Vergil reference? Not clever. But it's good to see you paraphrasing awesome people anyway, though.

And if New Vergil weren't awesome, you wouldn't have quoted him, now would you?
 
To me it looks like you guys are bitching more.

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Calm downs guys, me and Dragonmaster were just fooling around. His sensor skills caught up my trolling and he played along. :D I was never replying to Dragon in a negative light when i replied to him about his post about bitching.

Hence why i used DmC reference.
 
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