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TWOxACROSS said:
Oh dear...

Also, shurikens did get used in-hand sometimes, holding them in the palm to block weapons with the broadside of the star, as well as for grappling, using the pointed tips to push into and subdue opponents.
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Well, yeah, that's true. But shinobi didn't spin them around in hand like spinning tops, or flail them about in a wieldly fashion. Although I didn't know about them being used for grappling...that's pretty interesting.
 
i need to go off-topic here.. it's funny that people who enjoyed DmC --like moi, are the ones getting bored, fed up, or just lost interest in Japanese stuffs.. i mean not entirely, it's because more or less, someting seemed off with japanese creativity nowadays, i mean i used to be so into japanese stuffs, the culture, the games, the creative products, i was even being sarcastic or cynical to western creative products, like for games i would say "stupid western games"

so somebody need to start a new thread about what's wrong with japanese creativities.. i worshipped them backthen, and i found them so so so lackey today, haven't liked any japanese games or animes in years, being the last game probably sonic all star racing transformed..
 
Now to clarify. Glaive is actually polearm weapon that doesn't looks like Aquila at all.
Glaives_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg
For closest reference you can find it as weapon of Guan Yu in DW.
Thing that you shown you can find here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16983_the-11-most-retarded-fictional-weapons_p2.html
or here:
http://www.karatemart.com/ninja-cyclone-glaive
Both are probably never existed and based on film http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Krull
And for final point weapon is most likely based on shurikens in the first place, since you may find some very close fictional shurikens here for example
 
TWOxACROSS said:
Yeah, gonna have to go ahead that the DmC Yamato is a katana (and yes that is its game model :p), it just doesn't have a large hilt like most are depicted with.

Also "glaives" are really only s'posed to be those throwing weapons, something popularized the misconception of them being polearms.

Oh yeah, and Tameem never said that DMC was "too Japanesey" either, he was asked about and referring to Bayonetta. He said Bayonetta was too Japanesey for his tastes because holy crap have you seen Bayonetta :tongue:
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With regards to the OP, the behaviour towards Tameem from some people has nothing to do with anything he said. They basically need to justify their behaviour, so they make outlandish claims about an innocent man to justify what they do. Theres nothing wrong with Tameem saying a Japanese game is too Japanese for what he wants with his game. Its just a way to excuse themselves from reproach nothing more.
 
Innsmouth said:
Now to clarify. Glaive is actually polearm weapon that doesn't looks like Aquila at all.
Glaives_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg
For closest reference you can find it as weapon of Guan Yu in DW.
Thing that you shown you can find here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16983_the-11-most-retarded-fictional-weapons_p2.html
or here:
http://www.karatemart.com/ninja-cyclone-glaive
Both are probably never existed and based on film http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Krull
And for final point weapon is most likely based on shurikens in the first place, since you may find some very close fictional shurikens here for example
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No, there are more than one type of Glaive.
The throwing ones I mentioned in my original post, and the pole arm one you just brought up.
 
absolitude said:
so somebody need to start a new thread about what's wrong with japanese creativities.. i worshipped them backthen, and i found them so so so lackey today, haven't liked any japanese games or animes in years, being the last game probably sonic all star racing transformed..
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No real thread necessary - Japan has fallen into their same old problem of finding what seemed to work and then sticking to it for far too long. The anime industry struggles because one anime did really well (can't remember the name of it off the top of my head T_T), and then many others tried to emulate that, without considering that what made it a success was the story, and not just the elements. So the industry copied the elements, and suddenly there was a drastic influx of archetypal characters and trends that became increasingly boring to consume. That's why anime like Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online became so popular; they didn't follow what had become so formulaic in the industry.

Innsmouth said:
Now to clarify. Glaive is actually polearm weapon that doesn't looks like Aquila at all.
Glaives_by_Wendelin_Boeheim.jpg
For closest reference you can find it as weapon of Guan Yu in DW.
Thing that you shown you can find here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16983_the-11-most-retarded-fictional-weapons_p2.html
or here:
http://www.karatemart.com/ninja-cyclone-glaive
Both are probably never existed and based on film http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Krull
And for final point weapon is most likely based on shurikens in the first place, since you may find some very close fictional shurikens here for example
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Oh wait wait wait. Bleh, I had it mixed up. This is correct. Throwing weapons were referred to as glaives for whatever reason and the name stuck, but they are s'posed to be polearms @_@ I always manage to mix stuff like this up.

Judge said:
With regards to the OP, the behaviour towards Tameem from some people has nothing to do with anything he said. They basically need to justify their behaviour, so they make outlandish claims about an innocent man to justify what they do. Theres nothing wrong with Tameem saying a Japanese game is too Japanese for what he wants with his game. Its just a way to excuse themselves from reproach nothing more.
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Oh, I know that full well. There's a whole lot of things that have been taken out of context. However, more clarification, it had nothing to do with what Tameem wanted with his game, it was legit a question on whether he personally liked Bayonetta. They asked him if he was competing with Bayonetta, and he said no, they weren't, and he respects it as a game, it's just not his cup of tea (too Japanesey).
 
Malik Robinson said:
No, there are more than one type of Glaive.
The throwing ones I mentioned in my original post, and the pole arm one you just brought up.
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That's misconcept that based on mentioned by me film. Glaive as throwing weapon never existed in real history. It's made-up weapon from film Krull. (to be honest this weapon is completely unfuctionable in real life and can only exist in phantasy.
 
Innsmouth said:
That's misconcept that based on mentioned by me film. Glaive as throwing weapon never existed in real history. It's made-up weapon from film Krull. (to be honest this weapon is completely unfuctionable in real life and can only exist in phantasy.
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Well then, I guess the Aquila were based off of fictional weapons.
 
I never really felt Vergil's sword was much of a katana in DmC. That mostly goes to how the tsuba is so small, the blade itself not looking as a finely tempered sword, and the kisaki being pretty much a slant through then curved. The tsuka is definitely reminicent of a katana's proper handle but it has a strange circular outline near the kashira along with there being no menuki on the kashira. The sheath doesn't properly shift past the habaki and as such I always feel like it'll slip right out of it. That and the sheath is really thick for a sword that slim.
 
If there was ever such thing as a Westernized, saber-like katana, I'm fairly certain that's what New Yamato would be.

Btw, I'm well aware that there's some big debacle about the way New Vergil pronounces it as "Yam-aato"..but in all honesty, no one in the original games pronounced it right either (I believe Agnus pronounces it as YaMAto, which is also incorrect).

Given its spelling, I'm pretty sure it should be pronounced YAMA-to (the same way you'd pronounce "isotope", with the emphasis on the first vowel, not the second or third).
 
Malik Robinson said:
No, there are more than one type of Glaive.
The throwing ones I mentioned in my original post, and the pole arm one you just brought up.
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Even though I never come here anymore aside from to watch whatever ignorant things people say nowadays, I wanted to clarify this.

From Wikipedia:

  • The term "glaive" is frequently misapplied in modern fantasy fiction, films and video games to various thrown weapons, similar to the chakram or hunga munga, which can mystically return to the thrower (as in popular myths surrounding the boomerang). These objects are fictional, and are not in any way related to the historical glaive.

Now, I don't know why people mistakenly refer to it as a 'glaive' -- maybe it originated as some kind of translation error, where words were switched with each other. Fact is, a glaive is a European polearm. The Aquila is more like a fuuma shuriken or 'windmill' shuriken.

As for what Tameem said, I don't see why calling something 'Japanesey' is supposed to be insulting now. That said, NT has been pretty disrespectful in some instances. One example being them acting like they've got a monopoly on what's cool, saying that old Dante's not cool anymore -- even though everybody from 2008 (DMC4's release) would disagree, and 2008 was only 4/5 years before NT made their statement that Dante wasn't cool. Who are they to decide if Dante and/or DMC are cool or not? And since when is coolness objective instead of subjective?
The 'Dante is' and 'Dante is not' stuff made me cringe, and them comparing old Dante to a boring picture of Brokeback Mountain just seemed low to me. In no way is Brokeback Mountain comparable to Fight Club.
And Tameem apparently didn't understand the idea that old Dante was like a superhero. Sure, if he walked into a real-life bar, people would probably go 'wtf?' But that also goes for Superman and any other extravagant heroic character, not just 'absurd Japanesey characters'.
"The people who are skeptical secretly want to like it." Arrogant much?

Anyway, they've said more stupid stuff, though they might not have intended it to be offensive.
 
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