Yeah. And now that I think about it, do we even know what the exact hierarchy of the Demon World is? Mundus being Prince of Darkness implies there is one, but I don't recall any information on that. So bringing Mundus back might also be an opportunity to explore the inner workings of the Demon World as well.
Yeah. And now that I think about it, do we even know what the exact hierarchy of the Demon World is? Mundus being Prince of Darkness implies there is one, but I don't recall any information on that. So bringing Mundus back might also be an opportunity to explore the inner workings of the Demon World as well.
This quote from the DMC wikia sums it up really. :tongue:
DMC Wikia said:
The Demon World is a confusing place, to say the least. It seems to consist of many different planes and realms, with several corresponding to specific biomes, such as the "Fire Hell" which Berial rules.
@Lain - You beat me to it. I was just going to post the same thing about Berial. Do you think that Berial and other such demons that rule their own realms use to answer to Mundus? Or were they allowed to do their own thing? You can’t blame Sparda for rebelling against Mundus though can you when I’m guessing every other demon wanted the throne for themselves anyway. I would’ve allied with him for my own gain and then tried to betray him.
Probably the easiest way to square the circle is that Mundus was ruler of all the Demon World but either after he was sealed by Sparda or maybe defeated by Dante, either way the Demon World fell to civil war and was fractured into several different areas or something. Maybe...
In Onimusha Dawn Of Dreams, you see a man in a white suit and a pocket watch observing the main characters and appearing here and there.
Near the end, it turns out it's the human form of Fortinbras, the final boss of the first game.
You first fight him in his human form and then he evolves to a more gigantic version of how he appeared as a final boss in Warlords.
If Devil May Cry try to pull it off with Mundus, then it won't be the first time Capcom did it and you see something like that first in Onimusha.
well until they actually show that he died, claims of his dead can be pretty vague. Unlike Eva who clearly specified was killed by Mundus. So I still think corrupted Sparda is possibility.
(we saw vergil explode in DMC1 and yet he still here)
After DMC5, I'm not sure how the "Nelo Angelo exploded" theory can even stay alive. There were two possible outcomes - he either exploded or teleported away.
Prior to DMC5, I argued that the second was more likely since all material would be careful to mention that Nelo was "defeated", much like Dante "defeated" Mundus.
After DMC5:
It's clear that Vergil was very much alive in his corrupt state. I don't see any wiggle room for theory 1 anymore, he retained his body clear as day... Albeit, a deteriorating one. The whole theory hinged on his death, and it's a canonical fact now that he survived. They don't outright say that he survived Mallet Island, but... Come on, him being alive along side all canonical material being coy with his defeat? I would very much call his survival fact now.
It's possible that an explosion did occur, but that would have been an explosion outside of his body to separate himself from the armor. That could explain why his body started to deteriorate - maybe the armor was keeping him alive via Mundus' power or something. That wouldn't explain how he retained his clothing though... Although, Trish showed that she's able to manifest clothing out of thin air, and Vergil showed the ability to separate and recombine, changing the clothing in the process. Maybe he can manifest clothes as well? But either way, it's clear that his body was teleported away... Any other explanation would be convoluted in comparison, and I doubt the writers would ever even want to try when theory 2 explains it all.
The only unknowns is if he separated from the armor in that instant, or later on. If he went to hell, or onto a different island / continent. And how he got back from hell or found his way to Nero.
After DMC5, I'm not sure how the "Nelo Angelo exploded" theory can even stay alive. There were two possible outcomes - he either exploded or teleported away.
Prior to DMC5, I argued that the second was more likely since all material would be careful to mention that Nelo was "defeated", much like Dante "defeated" Mundus.
After DMC5:
It's clear that Vergil was very much alive in his corrupt state. I don't see any wiggle room for theory 1 anymore, he retained his body clear as day... Albeit, a deteriorating one. The whole theory hinged on his death, and it's a canonical fact now that he survived. They don't outright say that he survived Mallet Island, but... Come on, him being alive along side all canonical material being coy with his defeat? I would very much call his survival fact now.
It's possible that an explosion did occur, but that would have been an explosion outside of his body to separate himself from the armor. That could explain why his body started to deteriorate - maybe the armor was keeping him alive via Mundus' power or something. That wouldn't explain how he retained his clothing though... Although, Trish showed that she's able to manifest clothing out of thin air, and Vergil showed the ability to separate and recombine, changing the clothing in the process. Maybe he can manifest clothes as well? But either way, it's clear that his body was teleported away... Any other explanation would be convoluted in comparison, and I doubt the writers would ever even want to try when theory 2 explains it all.
The only unknowns is if he separated from the armor in that instant, or later on. If he went to hell, or onto a different island / continent. And how he got back from hell or found his way to Nero.
I agree with the sentiment of some other people, that Nero should be the one to finally kill Mundus if he does return. Nero proved he could, at least somewhat, hold his own against Urizen and Urizen was from what I remember stronger than Mundus.
Would be an interesting side effect of writing Vergil back into the story was that his presence created a link to the outside world through a lingering connection to Mundus that allowed him to escape his sealing and that's why he made sure to keep Vergil alive afterwards whereas he killed Griffon for failure.
I'm a little annoyed that they retconned Mundus to have needed the Qliphoth to become Emperor, nevertheless now that he's been dethroned maybe have him be the underdog initially and be amassing his strength through consuming other demon kings or something until he's strong enough to take on the DMC crew which would be the opposite of 5 where you're way too weak against Urizen initially until very late in the game.
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