does DmC reboot actually have deeper combat then DMC 4
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lol, I'll even be fair, its a little harder to get SSS in DMC4 than DmC. My point is that the style meter has nothing to with depth, and in the end I think DmC has a more satisfying implementation of the system. It's pretty much someone telling you "you fking rock every second." Honestly, I think the one flaw of the style system in DmC is that it stops at certain values, like 50 hit aerial is max, when it should have been that none of the combos have any caps. Can you imagine stuff like 200 HIT AERIAL Combo, that would have been fun and really promoted the way game should be played, which is with constant aggression.
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I was being a bit dickish, but there's nothing wrong with preferring that type of gameplay, I just want a modern version of it to be programmed with class and really be about reaction times, I don't want any static camera bullshit or enemies gliding towards me and what not, I want fully remappable controls as well, just because some designer prefers making his block or dodge right stick doesn't mean I have to just deal with it and learn.
I haven't actually played GoW or Bayonetta, but I've only heard good things and comparisons to DMC. Ok so ignore those games, my point about DmC lacking after games like DMC3/4 came out still stands.
Vid doesn't work.
Nice gameplay. Still has nothing on 3/4. Like I said before, DmC isn't a bad game, but like DMC2 it just doesn't live up to its predecessor(s).
I keep seeing people say DmC has good controls, are you serious? Default L3/R3 DT, X/[] for gun special, 2 evade buttons for no apparent reason, and the fact that you can't change DT/gunspec through the controls menu? I'd hate to have played DmC on a console and not having been able to change the .ini file.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
For one thing, you can change the controls in the menu - my Devil Trigger is D-Pad Down and my Gun Special is L2 (I put Angel and Demon Mode on L1 and R1), and for another, the two evade buttons have a reason - trying to hit both shoulder buttons to perform a specific dodge move isn't easy on the fingers. Granted, I myself still uses R1+R2 for Demon Dodge, but that's just me :tongue:
I love DmC's controls, because they removed a lot of the restrictive feel that was left over from Resident Evil. I don't understand why such a fast-paced hack 'n' slash series had to have such slow and restrictive controls, to be quite honest. Whatever "problems" there may be with DmC's controls I have adapted to, because I'm gamer, and that's what I do with every game I play.
Oh? I can't change gunspec and DT through the menu ingame. I mapped my DT/GS through the .ini file and the rest in the actual game:
L1=shoot
L2=angel
R1=demon
R2=jump
O=attack
T="style"
[]=gunspec
x=evade
Dpaddown=DT
I know that's weird as hell but that's what I'm used to from DMC4:
L1=shoot
L2=exceed/change weapon
R1=lock
R2=jump
O=attack
T=buster/style
[]=DT
x=nothing/change gun
One thing DmC did very well was making Dante very responsive to changes in direction. The soft-lock seems better at actually locking onto the thing you want to lock onto when you're swarmed, although it's awful for locking aerial targets. The hard lock is the opposite, great for flying nuisances, but if you're swarmed it's better to not even use R1 a lot of the time.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
Ah, yeah, the PC Version is funky and doesn't let you change those from the Options, but the console version does, luckily. And in the end that's what's always matter most, that you find a control scheme that you like.
here is working video:
And yes I do think DmC has amazing controls, advanced players always modify certain keys, so remapping DT and Gunspecial or shoot is no different than remapping Nero's gun in DMC4. Anyway, these really aren't the things I was talking about when I said the controls are brilliant in DmC. The real innovation lies in the the whole trigger system and how it allowes seamless integration of various styles and moves that were once done through a very tedious toggle mechanic. Additionally, I love the logical ways buttons work, jump doubles as skystar glide, angel dodge works both as an evasive maneuver and trickster dash, the dedicated launcher button is dedicated bring to ground button in air, and so forth.
Here is my scheme:
Dpaddown - Deviltrigger.
X - Light Attack
Y - Gunspecial
B - Heavy Attack
A - Jump
LB - Dodge
RB - Shoot
LT - Angel Mode
RT - Demon Mode
Left Stick - Toggle ranged target
Right Stick - Center Camera
Mine is almost the same except my jump is x and my gunspecial is a and my light attack is y
As fr dmc4 I've an odd one
Y is style button
B is melee
X is jump
A is shoot
Rb is devil arm switch
Rt is gun switch
Lt is devil trigger
Lb is lock on
For Nero
X jump
Y snatch
B melee
A shoot
Rb exceed
Rt lock on
Lt devil trigger
Y is style button
B is melee
X is jump
A is shoot
Rb is devil arm switch
Rt is gun switch
Lt is devil trigger
Lb is lock on
For Nero
X jump
Y snatch
B melee
A shoot
Rb exceed
Rt lock on
Lt devil trigger
[quoIe="OppressedWriter, post: 530126, member: 24625"]wow, weird how we all have our preferences, shoot on A is def interesting.[/quote]
Ya i find shoot as a frees up the x y and b for aerials and JC and makes it more fluid to slide your thumb across x and y or press x and b I find it has a great rhythm for attacking
Ya i find shoot as a frees up the x y and b for aerials and JC and makes it more fluid to slide your thumb across x and y or press x and b I find it has a great rhythm for attacking
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
That I don't believe.
DmC's gameplay focuses on crowd control, distance, quick fingers, and dexsterity.
DMC3's gameplay is more about quick fingers, and strong button mashing hands.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
All of the DMC games focus on crowd control. Very rarely are you only fighting one enemy outside of a boss fight and it's not like Assassins creed where the AI just attacks you one at a time. If multiple AI's are attacking at once than that requires crowd control. Also I am not sure what you mean by "strong button mashing hands"? If you mean being good at mashing buttons randomly than I would heavily disagree. I am also not sure what you mean by dexterity.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
DMC doesn't focus on crowd control like DmC does. DMC has the style of single attacking each enemy around you. For example, DMC4 Dante can't hit everyone with some of his weapons at once. He has to lock on from one enemy to the next to do some of his attacks. Meanwhile with DmC, you don't have that limitation and are free to just slash away at all enemies around you without having to lock on to only one individual enemy.
By strong button mashing, I mean the attacks that require strong button mashing like million stab, dance Macabre in DMC3, and mostly all the moves in DMC3 for crazy combos.
And by dexterity, I mean keeping a keen eye on all the moves you do along with jump canceling, weapon canceling, and angel glide to angel dodge canceling. Plus there's knowing all your attacks and doing them at the right time or setting off Kablooy shots at the right time, hell even shotgun charge shots should be preformed at the right time in case you hit the enemy away, it comes back at you, have a charged punch ready, then set off kablooy, do richoshot,drive, and finally flush.