DmC's Story is Terrible and here is why?
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AlchemistFromEden
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i understand you intention but keep in mind that i did not use things like cursing incessantly and that my post was filled with logic, not rage induced "i don't know how to use google or the wikia" logicNot politics! :lol:
No need to be a sour fruit.I just don't want the thread to get locked and you in trouble.
Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
EllDawn
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Yeah, but I'm still going to protect him. Then spend some time alone with him. So he'll be all mine! Mwahahaha.But I don't want to HURT him....
Meg
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Which is why I said you had a "slight attitude."
Which, if you're interested to know, I got from lines like these:But if you want to insist you did nothing wrong, then go ahead. Just keep in mind, I never said the OP was perfect.
I just didn't call him out because enough people already did and he hadn't even made another post since his first one. No use beating a dead horse.
AlchemistFromEden
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trueWhich is why I said you had a "slight attitude."
But if you want to insist you did nothing wrong, then go ahead. Just keep in mind, I never said the OP was perfect.
Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
I know this one of those things like suspend your disbelief....but how did Mundus know which computer to send the hostage video to?
YouTube.
Or Blinkx, if that's too mainstream.
http://www.blinkx.com/ce/waQVFBeOuIAaobMgvbfInoIAd2FRVkZCZU91SUFhb2JNZ3ZiZklub0lBd2FRVkZCZU91SUFhb2J
The most likely solution however, is a video "advertisement" on the "darknet". You click the advertisement and the vid pops up.
Sunaka Marién
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Hmm, idk much about computers, but would it be possible that they found something on the other computers in the Order's headquaters that weren't destroyed that helped them find out to what computer to send that video?I know this one of those things like suspend your disbelief....but how did Mundus know which computer to send the hostage video to?
And about sending it back, well, I guess that's easier, Mundus either left them some sorta "contact info" or they just back-tracked the signal it was sent from.
Alittleacorn
Smile it confuses people
Omg I covered that in my review in a caption XDI know this one of those things like suspend your disbelief....but how did Mundus know which computer to send the hostage video to?
And maybe they knew each other's e-mails or Mundus posted it up on Youtube?
Vergil: Now that we have our return hostage video ready, I'll get it send over to Mundus. Just give me moment to log into my account...
Dante:...Your e-mail is Fancy_Hats@peacock.com?
Vergil: Is there a problem?
Dante: Yeah, if you want Mundus laughing at us like a couple of clowns. Here move aside, I'll send it from my address.
Vergil:....SexyPeasantSize10@hotpants.com? =_= yes, very professional brother.
Dante: Please, it'll damage the guy's ego ;D trust me.
Vergil: -_- I highly doubt that.
Dante: Fine we'll use Kat's then! Know her account?
Vergil: I do, it's erm *cough*...
Dante: Yeah?
Vergil:...SnuggilyKittens@Cutiepie.com, password, tuna4milk.
Dante:...:'( well s**t, why didn't you tell me she was this f***ing adorable?
Nah, too silly. :lol:
VineBigBoss
GGXRD <3
This thread derailed quite quickly haha. But i understand, i do have some hatred for this new game replacing DMC too but not on that level that StylishNero has. But i think that he made up some REAL points here, and this is what we can get to carry on later not so passionate discussions. That being said is good because DmC fans can't talk too much about justifying the reboot because of plotholes, or do they had to accept a reboot on DmC too, given that it has so many plotholes and misundestandings. Seeing all this points we can say without fear and remorse that DmC has not a good story at all, it's likely on par of that one on the old series, and if we compare the character development that of DMC3 with DmC, it's WAY, WAY better than the development of Donte on DmC. But in the end, stories, characters, ambientation, music all this things end in a very personal level. I think that only the mechanics can be analysed in a "fully" non-biased way, without even considering the opinion of who's analysing it hey know what they're doing. But this things OP had brought to light is very interesting to analyse too, if we can grasp on the intentions of the developers we can make real criterias to analyse their final product as an writting too.
I don't blame the death of the old series on NT or Tameem. I just don't like them, i probably never will buy a game that comes out from their studios seeing the treatment they had given to the fans of the old DMC series and the arrogance to say in clear words that Donte is better than Dante. It's understandable to a professional to love his job and his work, but not in that fashion, if they get upset on the fans that's their problem and i really don't care. They are professionals and need to act as professionals, not as the kids that offended them. I wouldn't buy DmC even if they were polite with the old fans, but i'm sure that NT's behaviour was one of the issues on selling this game.
I don't blame the death of the old series on NT or Tameem. I just don't like them, i probably never will buy a game that comes out from their studios seeing the treatment they had given to the fans of the old DMC series and the arrogance to say in clear words that Donte is better than Dante. It's understandable to a professional to love his job and his work, but not in that fashion, if they get upset on the fans that's their problem and i really don't care. They are professionals and need to act as professionals, not as the kids that offended them. I wouldn't buy DmC even if they were polite with the old fans, but i'm sure that NT's behaviour was one of the issues on selling this game.
Sunaka Marién
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I highly doubt that :/ I mean, the ones who weren't fans of the series before wouldn't give a damn about their behaviour, and the ones that were fans before and are all offended by it and stuff would have probably not bought it even if NT had always responded professionally.
VineBigBoss
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I think that some people would give at least a chance to the game (and if they live on a country were games are not overpriced like on mine, they would even buy it or at least buy it on Steam sales or things like that), like i did, i forced myself to play the game even on DMD mode to not be that asshole who talks **** without even knowing the subject, i ended liking some of the game's features but as i predicted, the game is very far from being on the same level of DMC gameplay-wise and design-wise.
Sunaka Marién
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Yes, some would have, but I don't think that it would have been so many to drastically increase sales. And I still think that not buying it because of its staff is still the silliest reason not to give it a try.
Just out of curiosity, but how much are games in your country?
And my respect for you for giving it a chance ^_^
VineBigBoss
GGXRD <3
Inside the country launching games can get to 100$ (200 R$) or even more on a country town. But i import most of my games, i did this to most of them or just bought them on the US PSN or even in the Brazilian one. But even importing can be risky because of the taxes that you have to pay on them, games are listed on the same category as game of craps or gambling (seriously).
Sunaka Marién
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WHAT. THE. HELL.
And I always thought 60-70 Euros were rather expensive. And what do video games have in common with gambling??! There's nothing that would justify such a tax! Geez, I really feel sorry for you, man :ermm:
AlchemistFromEden
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But i think that he made up some REAL points here
if about five different people explained to him the answers that he was asking for with the same answers that all make sense i think that pretty much confirms that these are not plot holes more like the ramblings of someone who was just uniformed
That being said is good because DmC fans can't talk too much about justifying the reboot because of plotholes
of which there are very few because once again we explained why the OP's first post was wrong
do they had to accept a reboot on DmC too,
just to be a grammar nazi the grammar in this one gives me a headache
given that it has so many plotholes and misundestandings.
misunderstandings being the keyword here because the "points" that the OP brought up were all due to him misunderstanding the story and needing everything spelled out for him
Seeing all this points we can say without fear and remorse that DmC has not a good story at all
no we can't because--did you even read the posts here or did you just read the first post and skip to the final page
it's likely on par of that one on the old series
its actually better because of things like character development and a coherent non convoluted and satirical plot
if we compare the character development that of DMC3 with DmC, it's WAY, WAY better than the development of Donte on DmC.
because you say so right, i don't understand how the other one would be better if on more than two occasions the OG dante's character never actually developed, in 3 and 1 he does but other than those two occasions he never develops whenever we see him, the anime was pointless and a waste of money if he didn't develop or change at all and 4 was even more pointless
But in the end, stories, characters, ambientation, music all this things end in a very personal level
ambientation? um, what the heck is that -_-, that squiggly red line underneath that word does not help validate your opinion
I think that only the mechanics can be analysed in a "fully" non-biased way
as in someone without a hint of what the series is or someone who doesn't care as much the "fanbase" who become rabid dogs whenever someone disagrees, and because of the reception that this game received from people who review thing in such a way that they actually enjoyed themselves and praised things such as the story
without even considering the opinion of who's analysing it hey know what they're doing.
do you proofread the things you post because this also makes absolutely no sense, and we're supposed to be the same age
But this things OP had brought to light is very interesting to analyse too
dude there's a z in analyze, i don't mean to be a grammar nazi but seriously
if we can grasp on the intentions of the developers we can make real criterias to analyse their final product as an writting too.
the intentions of the developers was to deliver a satirical and coherent plot that also retells the origins of dante
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/30/reimagining-evil-ninja-theory-on-dmcs-cultural-satire/
I don't blame the death of the old series on NT or Tameem.
oh the death of the old series, oh i must have forgotten about that capcom stake out that sent millions of agents to millions of houses to hold players at gun point while they forcefully burned every single copy of dmc1,2,3, and 4 out of existence while deleting every single file on those games and wiping out traces of them out of existence and told players to buy the reboot or die, oh wait, that never happened, capcom released the HD collection -_-
I just don't like them
because they are doing their jobs and aren't afraid to be bullied by a bunch of kids, teenagers and young adults sitting behind computers spouting nostalgia fueled nonsense at them at every turn
i probably never will buy a game that comes out from their studios
refer to the point above
seeing the treatment they had given to the fans of the old DMC series
oh, you mean by making a video that wasn't dmc3.75--i mean dmc5
the arrogance to say in clear words that Donte is better than Dante.
which they never did but ok whatever makes your argument sound legit right?
It's understandable to a professional to love his job and his work
and its understandable for humans to get riled up by a bunch of people who are younger than them to talk **** about them on a literal daily basis, its annoying to wake up check your email and see death threats and comments saying you should lose your job every single waking hour of the day
but not in that fashion
yes in that fashion because NT is composed of several hundred humans not robot drones
if they get upset on the fans that's their problem and i really don't care.
wow, so basically "I'M ALLOWED TO INSULT YOU ALL I WANT HAHAHAHA" *enter generic tameem's insulting comment on dante the character that never actually occurred and originated from 4chan here* "OMGURRRDD HOW DARE YOU!!!!!"
They are professionals and need to act as professionals
i'll roleplay as you for a moment based on this nonsensical statement
"NT, AS ADULTS YOU MUST BE DEVOID OF ANY EMOTION AND ACCEPT ANY LITTLE COMMENT AND ALL THE DEATH THREATS, EITHER THAT OR YOU'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH" *runs over to the twitter to tweet about and praise hideki kamiya for saying **** you to my face"
not as the kids that offended them.
or young adults who act like kids
I wouldn't buy DmC even if they were polite with the old fans
there's no point in doing this at all then or you being here in the DmC forum -_-
but i'm sure that NT's behaviour was one of the issues on selling this game
the fans started it, NT ended it, oh but they are company and companies never do that, because video game developers are the most professional of professional THEY DEFINE PROFESSIONAL!!!!!
yeah well if that were true this picture of cole mcgrath from infamous drawn by the creators of prototype wouldn't exist
and neither would this response from the creators of infamous
Sunaka Marién
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You know Eden I'm all for defending DmC, but that
And in British English "analyze" is spelled with and "s" instead of an "z", so it't perfectly right to use an s.
just goes too far and is plain rude. Not everyone has English as their native language you know?
And in British English "analyze" is spelled with and "s" instead of an "z", so it't perfectly right to use an s.
AlchemistFromEden
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LysseC
Philosopher and fangirl. Worst. Combination. Ever.
I think this is going to lead to a war between us for Vergil's graces... Mind sharing? Like, one day you leave him to me, and one day I leave him to you?
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