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I was talking more recent writers and the more recent Marvel or DCU's.
Or even outside Marvel or DC because Hellboy, Buffy, The darkness etc are still going strong despite being 10-20 years in print.
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Technically it's a retcon not a reboot and most people liked the post OMD stuff even if they disliked OMD.
@railazel- could you blame itsuno for the plot holes given thought he's not the writer for the games?
@railazel- could you blame itsuno for the plot holes given thought he's not the writer for the games?
Oh yeah, that, but Stan Lee liked the direction they took, didn't he?
He's still the director.
Stylish Nero
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Yeah but Itsuno is more about focusing on the gameplay.....he wrote the plot line for DMC2(i think)...it sucked...then hired some manga artist/novelist to write it for them. As long as the story is good and not another DMC2....so even if the story/script was the best story/script ever or a masterpiece of this generation if the gameplay sucked Itsuno had failed.
As for the DMC storyline...they can't go back and do anything between DMC3 & DMC1 there would be no point plot wise...it'll just be another random plot or story thrown in there to milk the franchise like I said before a game as a series is limited by its story and gameplay. And don't say explain more about the myth of Sparda for by DMC4/DMC2 not even Dante know much about his old man that he didn't knew in DMC1/DMC4 so any new information in a game that is a sequel of DMC4 will just create these more plot holes your talking about. (Old)Dante's gameplay aspects is well rather completed or perfected by DMC4 well as far as Itsuno is concerned....they can change it around but DmC already did it and many DMC players are fine by his gameplay but Nero's gameplay is rather incomplete on purpose(considering he doesn't even use all of the buttons on the controller) and is much left to explore about Nero.....MUCH LEFT TO EXPLORE ABOUT NERO. DMC1 was the main background that explained everything about Dante, DMC2 was that Dante became a legendary demon hunter and supposedly surpassed his father, & DMC3 explained how Dante became the Devil Hunter he was in DMC1. No need to go any further(for Dante that is) otherwise DMC will be as milked as Resident Evil(where its almost like a lot of the game is just a pointless excuse to milk the series without properly expanding the series world and characters). With DMC where they can go from here is with Nero....Dante can still be in any future games(most likely how he was in DMC4......but...or like Vergil in DMC3 but with more of a story) or like you said a game focusing on Vergil although any aspects about Vergil can explored through Nero that is if Nero is really is his son or they can do it regardless just because he has Vergil's sword.
But taking everything I said from above is irrelevant the original DMC team was busy making Dragon Dogma(1 & 2 now) so it was either DmC or no another DMC game til 2014 or 2015. Then there is the fact that the original writer for the story of DMC(3 & 4 that is) left them and we all know Capcom by themselves can't write for sh*t(unless if its Resident Evil and oddly MegaMan...not the original but the series after it well maybe not X) and if they do its no DMC3 or the MegaMan Inti Creates series. Letting NT continue the story won't be such a good idea cause well the reason for all these "plot holes" was the constant change of writers and people directing the series.
Which kind of shows his inability to be a good director. He should really work on his writing skills so that he's more well- rounded.
To be fair, DMC is a very blotchy story. There's alot of details about Dante that we haven't seen yet and the things we have seen you really can't be sure about. DMC 3 was just a redo of DMC 1 and the Dante in that was basically the same as the Dante in DMC 4 who is quite different from the Dante of DMC 1. If we really want DMC to have a consistent story, Capcom is going to have to give Dante a consistent character and story, which would mean that they need to add details that explains his character changes throughout the series.
The sad thing about this is that the different teams act like they have no regard for the work the previous team did. Either that, or Capcom doesn't. I really don't care for what new "innovations" these team brings, I'm just hoping for that one guy that says, "Hey, shouldn't we make the story make a little more sense?"
Stylish Nero
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Everyone keep talking about plot holes in DMC.....but I only recall the one plothole about Vergilin DMC3 that contradicted DMC1 but I figured the manga fixed that.....but the fans don't take those seriously.
Yeah so what were these plot holes again?
Yeah so what were these plot holes again?
DragonMaster2010
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Here are some I've seen:
-Vergil was supose to be captured and turned into Nelo Angelo after their moms death. Yet in DMC3, he grew up on his own and became who he was in DMC3.
-Nero's origin never explained, but it has something to do with Vergil.
-What happen to Dante after DMC2.
-Why didn't Sparda defeat Mundus ages ago if he was strong enough already.
-Dante's bipolar personalities with every game.
That's the ones I'd like to get answered.
Now excuse me cause I'm out of here.
That's not a plothole, that's a cliffhanger.
Sparda never killed any of the major demons. He just sealed them all.
Stylish Nero
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Here are some I've seen:
-Vergil was supose to be captured and turned into Nelo Angelo after their moms death. Yet in DMC3, he grew up on his own and became who he was in DMC3.
This was mainly caused by a change of authors and story telling but I think a game that takes place before DMC3 and is about Vergil can fix this unless if Capcom doesn't mess this up too. Plus its mainly a matter of just fixing the error through logical thinking like that it was Trish who said he lost a mother and brother 20 years ago(that was the only hint) but some can say that it was a rough estimate(calculating both his mom and Vergil) and in the manga Dante thought that his brother was dead til he saw him 1 year before DMC3. I can easily overlook this and as an....umm....necessary plot hole that can be ignored.
-Nero's origin never explained, but it has something to do with Vergil.
I though a plot hole was something that contradicted the plot not an unexplained question that can easily be answered if Capcom has the right writers and has it organized.
-What happen to Dante after DMC2.
Same as the one before it.....not a plot hole and can be answered easily in a sequel to DMC2.
-Why didn't Sparda defeat Mundus ages ago if he was strong enough already.
An army of demons.....I guess an army of demons and even the demon overlord was too much so had to use up his power to just seal them all away and well seal away and bind Mundus and Mundus isn't easy to kill and he is still alive despite getting trashed by Dante twice.
-Dante's bipolar personalities with every game.
This can't be answered that easily or at all.....DMC3-DMC1 makes sense, DMC1-DMC anime makes some sense plus Dante was depressed based on events that precedes DMC1 like Trish leaving him, DMC anime-DMC4.......I guess Dante just has a different outlook returning to his DMC1 self but with more of a DMC3 type attitude or being just an overpowered demon hunter after kicking Mundus's and Cid's ass just gave him a more cocky attitude plus DMC1-DMC4 Dante is a believable change, but DMC4-DMC2 for that to happen it must be a pretty long time-span(I hope not for Nero might be in his late 20's and that won't be much fun) but DMC2 Dante isn't like a soul less ginger plus DMC4 Dante at the beginning(from when he killed the pope up to the end of the battle with Nero) was like his DMC2 self...serious and rather quiet mixed in with some killer intent. His DMC2 even has a kind demeanor like when he gave Lucia incentive to keep living and the coin trick was like him giving Nero his brother's prized sword and even believing in him and letting off in multiple occasions. I guess Dante matured into a serious and fearless devil hunter like his father but still retains his old DMC1 quirks like being very nice and supportive to girls, saying "Devils Never Cry", sure he is rather quiet and doesn't say any witty comebacks but when DMC2 bosses doesn't talk or say anything its hard to say anything smart back. I guess a road trip in hell might alter his personality a bit too.
That's the ones I'd like to get answered.
Now excuse me cause I'm out of here.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
Stan lee's reaction wasnt documented but he might have cared as he did marry the two in his newpaper strip back in the 90's.
but does that still require him to be involved in writing when he might not have any talent as a writer?
Here are some I've seen:
-Vergil was supose to be captured and turned into Nelo Angelo after their moms death. Yet in DMC3, he grew up on his own and became who he was in DMC3.
-Nero's origin never explained, but it has something to do with Vergil.
-What happen to Dante after DMC2.
-Why didn't Sparda defeat Mundus ages ago if he was strong enough already.
-Dante's bipolar personalities with every game.
That's the ones I'd like to get answered.
Now excuse me cause I'm out of here.
The first one is a retcon as they decided Vergil getting turned into Nero Angelo later on in life was a better idea than what was established.
Railazel's right, its a cliffhanger not a plot hole.
Nero's origins are a unexplained question not a plothole.
Same reason Dante didnt kill him, maybe mundus cant be killed, only weakened and sealed.
You act differently at different stages of your life. How you act at age 19 is different from when you are 40 and vice versa.
Each game is 10 years or so from each other unless with DMC2 which could be further down the timeline given that Dante is functionally immortal.
So DMC2 could be 2000 years later after the rest of the series.
Dante's nature in dmc4 was him unable to take the events of DMC4 and what they revealed so he decided to not take it seriously.
its like laughing in a funeral.