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Could Dante royal block a punch from SA Superman?

WolfOD64

That Guy Who Hates Fox McCloud
Silver Age Superman has the ability to shoot rainbows and project a second version of himself. No, I'm really not kidding---look it up: he could actually clone himself on the spot, and have a second version of himself fight alongside him.

So, it's not really a matter if Dante could Royal Block a punch, because he'd have to be able to block two: one from Superman, and one from behind that his clone delivers. And being sandwiched between two Silver Age Supermen, well...that'd pretty much be the end for Dante, unless he has Thor or Spawn on hand to back him up.
 

scionicspectre

Well-known Member
Silver Age Superman has the ability to shoot rainbows and project a second version of himself. No, I'm really not kidding---look it up: he could actually clone himself on the spot, and have a second version of himself fight alongside him.

So, it's not really a matter if Dante could Royal Block a punch, because he'd have to be able to block two: one from Superman, and one from behind that his clone delivers. And being sandwiched between two Silver Age Supermen, well...that'd pretty much be the end for Dante, unless he has Thor or Spawn on hand to back him up.

If only Dante could use Royal Guard and Doppleganger at the same time. :\
 

Kam

Wall of text crits you for 600
going from the game's mechanics, there are basically two things ever that dante could not royalguard, and both of them were essentially a health drain baked into the level to encourage you to hurry. Blocking two simultaneous attacks is easy, as one block will essentially make you invulnerable for that frame, and if the attacks aren't simultaneous, a successful first block would reset the cooldown on a subsequent block to zero.

Basically, there is no attack in the history of recorded DMC that could punch through a royalguard, and blocking 1, 2, or 100 supermen would be just as trivial. The style is so overpowered that it is never mentioned in any cutscene, lore, or backstory, because simply bringing it into the same realm as cutscene dante would reduce every single fight down to "why didn't he just royal guard that? well he can royal guard that, he'll be fine"

And then after he's blocked those punches, he can reflect the absorbed damage back on his attacker. I think the real question is: can superman stand up to several of his own punches?

Naturally there's more to consider here. Is dante fast enough to accurately block an indefinite number of punches from even a single superman? Even with quicksilver, that's questionable. But can he soak that punch, assuming he landed the block? Absolutely.

TL;DR - royal guard has never been beaten by any enemy attack, ever. For this to happen would literally be to rewrite everything we know about royal guard right now.
 

Chancey289

Fake Geek Girl.
going from the game's mechanics, there are basically two things ever that dante could not royalguard, and both of them were essentially a health drain baked into the level to encourage you to hurry. Blocking two simultaneous attacks is easy, as one block will essentially make you invulnerable for that frame, and if the attacks aren't simultaneous, a successful first block would reset the cooldown on a subsequent block to zero.

Basically, there is no attack in the history of recorded DMC that could punch through a royalguard, and blocking 1, 2, or 100 supermen would be just as trivial. The style is so overpowered that it is never mentioned in any cutscene, lore, or backstory, because simply bringing it into the same realm as cutscene dante would reduce every single fight down to "why didn't he just royal guard that? well he can royal guard that, he'll be fine"

And then after he's blocked those punches, he can reflect the absorbed damage back on his attacker. I think the real question is: can superman stand up to several of his own punches?

Naturally there's more to consider here. Is dante fast enough to accurately block an indefinite number of punches from even a single superman? Even with quicksilver, that's questionable. But can he soak that punch, assuming he landed the block? Absolutely.

TL;DR - royal guard has never been beaten by any enemy attack, ever. For this to happen would literally be to rewrite everything we know about royal guard right now.
You're trying to argue that Dante is stronger than Superman.

*ahem* let me repeat that, Superman.

........Superman

Superman.

SUPERMAN.

*Punch*
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ef9dante_oSsshea

Well-known Member
Premium
Xen-Omni 2020
He has the abilty to block it but supes strength should break through it but if not and he performs an ultimate guard like in 3 he can hit back with 3x the forces attack

and it is only gameplay that limits dante from doing two styles at once , technically he should be able.to use doppleganger and rg at once and even quicksilver
 

Kam

Wall of text crits you for 600
You're trying to argue that Dante is stronger than Superman.

*ahem* let me repeat that, Superman.

........Superman

Superman.

SUPERMAN.

*Punch*
injustice-kryptonian-crush-o.gif
I'm saying the only consideration royalguard has for strength is when the attacker suffers many times that amount of damage reflected back into their own face. No amount of damage has ever broken a perfect parry, because the amount of damage isn't even part of the equation. A lovetap from a sloth, a bolt of lightning, dante stubbing his toe, or a punch from a dormant ancient god among demons powered by the demonic energies of sparda himself, they all might as well be the same thing as far as a perfect block is concerned.

It would be like arguing that if you clapped your hands you could change the color of the sun, thinking that if you clapped a lot

........A lot

A lot.

A LOT.

*Clap*

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that it might make a difference, when in reality it just doesn't matter.
 

Chancey289

Fake Geek Girl.
I'm saying the only consideration royalguard has for strength is when the attacker suffers many times that amount of damage reflected back into their own face. No amount of damage has ever broken a perfect parry, because the amount of damage isn't even part of the equation. A lovetap from a sloth, a bolt of lightning, dante stubbing his toe, or a punch from a dormant ancient god among demons powered by the demonic energies of sparda himself, they all might as well be the same thing as far as a perfect block is concerned.

It would be like arguing that if you clapped your hands you could change the color of the sun, thinking that if you clapped a lot

........A lot

A lot.

A LOT.

*Clap*

kane-slow-clap.gif%3Fw%3D320%26h%3D240


that it might make a difference, when in reality it just doesn't matter.
Do you know who Superman is?
 

Demi-fiend

Metempsychosis
Supporter 2014
The guy who shattered reality itself with a single strike? Forget it.

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No amount of pansy kung-fu poses is going to change that.


In conclusion:

If Superman can shatter reality, then that means he can shatter the very concept of Dante's Royalguard itself.

Thus, any protection that RG provides is immediately nullified because, if reality is destroyed, the "all-powerful" RG perfect parry (and the RG perfect release counter-move) would surely follow.

You just don't mess with a being that has that much physical and psychic power.


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Kam

Wall of text crits you for 600
The guy who shattered reality itself with a single strike? Forget it.

No amount of pansy kung-fu poses is going to change that.

In conclusion:

If Superman can shatter reality, then that means he can shatter the very concept of Dante's Royalguard itself.

Thus, any protection that RG provides is immediately nullified because, if reality is destroyed, the "all-powerful" RG perfect parry (and the RG perfect release counter-move) would surely follow.

You just don't mess with a being that has that much physical and psychic power.

With sparda's sword, the chaos of the demonic realm was split in two, to create the human realm, in essence shattering the existing reality permanently, which is a hell of a lot more impressive than superman doing it just for a few moments. With sparda's sword, vergil is unable to make a dent in dante. Attacks from a weapon that canonically shattered reality is just as powerless to hurt dante as any other attack in the game.

There is no precedent for RG ever failing. Ever. Not to a lesser demon, not to his brother, not to a dimension cleaving, reality breaking strike. Nothing. A RG parry will simply ignore any damage. SA superman's strength has failed before to beings that were stronger, or more resistant than he was, even without the need for kryptonite.

Considering that dante is the blood descendant of a being who could break dimensions and permanently revoke the power of any demon he wished, it's entirely possible that this breaker's power is a component of a RG parry as well, which would explain its ability to let dante brush off every attack ever using the back of his wrist. Even if it wasn't, there's simply no indication that any amount of physical or magical power can break this guard, while there is plenty of incidents where superman just wasn't strong enough to punch through a defense.

Do you know who Superman is?
You made a compelling argument last time by repeating superman's name 5 times in a row, but I think we've established that we all know who he is. Do you have anything real to contribute?
 

DragonMaster2010

Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
TL;DR - royal guard has never been beaten by any enemy attack, ever. For this to happen would literally be to rewrite everything we know about royal guard right now.

What? Dante's RG CAN be broken with the right amount of power. In DMC3, a low level demon was able to break it easily but Vergil couldn't make a dent.
 

dreadnought_dante

And the brighter the flame, the deeper the shadow
Yes! Dante can royal block a punch of SA superman. (if you like Dante more than superman)
no its not possible. sa superman's is too powerful for Dante's royal block. (if you like superman more than Dante)
Dante can block his punch and kill superman in the next moment. (if you hate superman.)

okay joking aside

Dante should block a punch from sa superman by gameplay mechanic.
 
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