Female Thor = Feminist Propaganda
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Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
I wasn't angry about the A-Force.
This, however...
This, however...
HandsomePeanut
Satan Claus
Wow... Dat writing...
Never been a fan of comics but I can see why those who are would be upset about this.
Never been a fan of comics but I can see why those who are would be upset about this.
Rebel Dynasty
Creator of Microcosms
Lol! I actually saw this not that long ago. Eh, @TWOxACROSS ?
*Shudder* Yeah. It's bad writing, and comes off as if they're trying too hard. Seriously, wtf possessed them to do this? Want to make an awesome female superhero? Go for it. But don't **** all over a pre-existing character to do it, and certainly don't use the femi-Nazi card while you're at it.
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*Shudder* Yeah. It's bad writing, and comes off as if they're trying too hard. Seriously, wtf possessed them to do this? Want to make an awesome female superhero? Go for it. But don't **** all over a pre-existing character to do it, and certainly don't use the femi-Nazi card while you're at it.
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TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
Ugh...why did you remind me, RebDy...?
Rebel Dynasty
Creator of Microcosms
Because I have a sadistic streak.
Lol, nah. I just thought maybe you'd add weight to the convo is all.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
Yea, I haven't been keeping up with the new Thor, but is this all it is? Them putting her up against sexism so she wins? Waiting for her to shout girl power.
Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
Does her feminist attitude allow her to pick up Mjolnir?
WolfOD64
That Guy Who Hates Fox McCloud
Yep. No defining character traits, no interesting charactersitics or wit to bring to the table...just mortifying examples of outdated, late-90's "Bad girl sass" for the sake of "GIRL POWER."
This has to be the laziest attempt to be progressive I've ever seen. Good thing MCU Thor is still around, because this shallow caricature of feminism is hogging the spotlight in the Thor comics.
berto
I Saw the Devil
OH... My... Sweet... Merciful... God.
How dumb can you possibly be. First of all it's crap like this that will make your works dated in no time at all. Top it off with the dumb commentary and dialogue and Marvel is obviously going overboard with this forced equality thing. It's gone from a questionable idea to downright silly. Marvel already had some bad ass women in their roster, why change characters that are established? What is wrong with making new ones and putting some effort into them. I think I'll just stick with the independent circuit and manga; they might not be perfect but they are more unique and interesting by leaps and bounds.
How dumb can you possibly be. First of all it's crap like this that will make your works dated in no time at all. Top it off with the dumb commentary and dialogue and Marvel is obviously going overboard with this forced equality thing. It's gone from a questionable idea to downright silly. Marvel already had some bad ass women in their roster, why change characters that are established? What is wrong with making new ones and putting some effort into them. I think I'll just stick with the independent circuit and manga; they might not be perfect but they are more unique and interesting by leaps and bounds.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
Mostly the "putting some effort into them" part. And c'mooooon, how are they supposed to capitalize on a hot topic if they don't make the change to one of their newly publicly-popularized characters :tongue:
From what I have seen, the actual plot of how this woman took up Thor's mantle is...slightly okay; Thor was feeling incredibly jaded and didn't want to be a hero anymore, and mewmew passed on to this mystery lady for a time while Thor sorts his **** out.
However, the panels shown here are exactly what you don't do. This just lampshades the entire thing. Without these panels, there was some actual benefit of the doubt, you could get by thinking that the change itself was a mix-up for the serial to bring a fresh idea to it for a time. Think about it - Thor is jaded, and this mysterious woman has taken up the mantle and hammer, we want to see how Thor will get back into the game, and who the mystery woman is, but now they just put a lampshade on the entire thing, calling out the detractors of the plot's concept, and standing up that villain as a literal strawman to the debate that Fem!Thor can knock down. One of my comic bookie friends tells me that the villain's words are in line with his personality, at least, so there's that, but I can't shake the question of "Why the hell is Thor, the God(dess) of Thunder, stopping an armored car robbery? Isn't that sorta beneath them?" (Legit question, beeteedubs, because if he doesn't, then by golly they strawmanned the entire encounter with the strawman!).
My problem really isn't with the concept of them making Thor female. There was also Frog!Thor and like...weird...goat...alien!Thor, as well, but it just seems like it's trying to play off of a hot topic to try and grab dat female demographic in an extremely vapid way, and then was used to strawman a deeply troubling and complicated issue. Also, of course written by comic book guys, who may have damn ideas, but are often extremely terrible at actually writing.
As RebDy mentioned, I actually said something about this on my facebook, which I can use to close out this post
TWOxACROSS on his facadetome said:
Exejpgwmv
Well-known Member
What- But I- I don't even-
You know what, **** it.:shifty:
You wanna see a comic with actually well thought out and compelling female characters, with one of the most prominent ones being an actual feminist?
Then look at this comic: http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/48
Take notes Marvel.
You know what, **** it.:shifty:
You wanna see a comic with actually well thought out and compelling female characters, with one of the most prominent ones being an actual feminist?
Then look at this comic: http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/48
Take notes Marvel.
AgentRedgrave
Legendary Devil Hunter
*Facepalm* Why is Thor a woman? I'm not against female superheros in any way. But why? Why take an established character and gender swap them? (I'd be just as mad if Storm, Black Widow, or Wonder Woman were gender swapped) . There are already female superheros..
Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
I don't mind Thor being a woman.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
Thor being a woman isn't the problem - it's the fact that it seems to have been a very shameless grab for attention for the feminist demographic and has stood up a terrible strawman in the story for no reason other than to attempt a "feminism wins" element, which falls flat >.<
In this instance, it's not a genderswap, the reigning Thor got all jaded or something and mewmew choose a new person to take up the mantle of Thor while he was sorting his junk out, and in doing chose a woman.
In this instance, it's not a genderswap, the reigning Thor got all jaded or something and mewmew choose a new person to take up the mantle of Thor while he was sorting his junk out, and in doing chose a woman.
AgentRedgrave
Legendary Devil Hunter
Ahh Okay, well that's not as bad. Don't get me wrong I agree that the whole "feminism wins" thing is done wrong.
AgentRedgrave
Legendary Devil Hunter
X-23
WolfOD64
That Guy Who Hates Fox McCloud
Oh, yeah...I forgot. It's been a while since I dabbled in X-Men.