What Now DmC Fans (this could include DMC fans as well)
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IncarnatedDemon
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Not interested in DMC, not interested in DmC.
IF the do DMC, probably going to be lazy just like they did with DMC 2 and 4.
If they do DmC, they will probably not be lazy and will use time on it.
However, i would like a DMC 5 about Nero with well written story that explains his character, and with better detail to the art.And ofc great gameplay.
But will Capcom do that? I doubt it.
IF the do DMC, probably going to be lazy just like they did with DMC 2 and 4.
If they do DmC, they will probably not be lazy and will use time on it.
However, i would like a DMC 5 about Nero with well written story that explains his character, and with better detail to the art.And ofc great gameplay.
But will Capcom do that? I doubt it.
Fran0823
DmC and DMC why can't we have both?
Yeah fans aren't really going to leave DMC alone that easy....main reason why is.
As long as PG exists and keeps making well received action games similar to DMC people will want to yearn for a new high quality DMC game or a DMC game regardless (made by PG or Capcom).
Like when Bayonetta came out, the hype for DMC went up due to how similar they were and the fact the guy who made Bayonetta made DMC.
People even say MGR contains the spirit of the old DMC (mainly DMC3/4).
Plus why do people let the fans cool off.....cool off of what? Not giving them a DMC game won't let them calm down they'll just go elsewhere (PG) for games like DMC or of DMC quality and when Capcom does release a new DMC/DmC it would practically be too late since a majority of the fanbase left because they didn't give them what they wanted and there was other places to go. Fans ditched DMC/DmC for a PG gamebefore (MGR) they'll do it again if Capcom leaves them waiting and PG fermits their spot of high quality hack and slash and over the top stylish action (something DMC once stood for).
The reason why they were ****ed to begin with was the possibility of DmC replacing DMC how is giving them back DMC after a 5+ hiatus rushing it.
Oh look, the PLATINUM argument again
Dude Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 are being sent to die...you know it, I know it, Kamiya knows it and even Nintendo knows it...a console that has 170k UK software sales in 6 months housing the sequel of a not-very-popular-yet-loved franchise as an exclusive?...yeaaaaaaah...it's dead man.
I do not believe Platinum is the "ZOMG SUPER DEV GIVE THEM EVERYTHING!!", In fact right now the decision to work with Nintendo could be detrimental to P*'s Image as developers... and even now, very few of their games sold as expected, despite quality. (I really think MGR was rushed and focused on ZOMG COMBOS! instead of giving a full package)
.I think it's better to wait and see how those game manage before we try and give them every single action IP in the world.
Right now, the best option for capcom is keep the DmC franchise as it is, but try to develop the story and gameplay with some of the player feedback they could have NT work with it again, or they can use the assets and make it themselves...but give the franchise as a whole to P*? yeah, I wouldn't do it, specially if they want DmC to have a western feel to it.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
Nero is Dante's clone born in a test tube from a lock of his hair and a pinky toenail. He got his demon arm after a freak fapping accident when playing a game of verbal tennis on the phone with Kyrie. They surgically attached it.
Dante after DMC 2 went back home and ordered a pizza. Not too exciting but, that's just how he typically spends his down time. Unless some demon delivery boy attacks him for not tipping.
Jak
i like turtles
Lucia: Dante? Dante is that you?
dante walks into the office and smiles. he walks past lucia over to the pizza she ordered. he takes a slice and eats
Dante: Its good to be back.
lucia walks over to dante and kisses him. He kisses back and takes off her jacket. she undoes his pants.
pretty much the end, wouldn't you say so?
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
Alittleacorn
Smile it confuses people
I'd rather they just stuck with DmC. Either it's made in house with Capcom, or NT do. Honestly I think it's better Capcom handling their own franchises, because it it would've been like if they had given Resident Evil to another company to reboot. Sure it can be good because it's thinking outside the box and having others come up with ideas they were stumped on, but Devil May Cry is one of their series they've had for years. Like Resident Evil, It should stick with them. Even so, they should stay in contact with NT and worked with them to help create a DmC2, incase they risk slipping into another 'we don't know what to do' pit.
It's completely optional at this point what will happen, but I really would be surprised if they went backwards from a reboot, or ditched it completely. I've never heard of that ever being done. Seriously can you imagine Crystal Dynamics saying "Yeah, you know that reboot we did on Lara? With her on the island and making her a born survivor and stuff? Yeah because it didn't sell to our expectation and you all complained about the multiplayer, we're just going to scrap all that hard work part and go back to Underworld." I'm just saying, a reboot happens when you're out of ideas. Just like the Silent Hill's might be under going a reboot soon, and even Metal Gear if I heard right, although I might getting that mixed up with Silent Hill [I need to check that one.]
Whether you hate it or not, NT gave them what they needed, a fresh slate, and whether Capcom do decide to continue with DmC2, and work with NT on it or not, they've got those choices open to them too. And it would be stupid to throw that away, more so when there's so much they could do with it. Devil May Cry 2 is apparently the weaker of the series, yet they bounced back with Devil May Cry 3, so there's no excuses that they couldn't do a complete turn around in making DmC2 more familar with the original, yet still doing it's own thing.
No I wouldn't want it be a DMC4 copy and try to mimic that game or Dante in it, Instead I'd want to see a DMC1 style, go right back to the beginning where the series was really good and best known for. Show us Dante older and when he's got his demon hunting business, and give us more with Vergil so he isn't written dead in the canon too early. Maybe that was the real problem with it, it's too far back in the storyline and it doesn't lead up sooner to what we're used to, in that we're used to seeing Dante in his shop. If there'd been a tie in with that element in this reboot, even to the last couple minutes, it might've established it better.
But...bottom line? It's better if they left the whole series alone for now, and focused on reworking Resident Evil or doing something with Megaman. People have wanted something from that series for ages. They should focus on their other titles that are getting neglected [I want me some Clock Tower :'( ]
It's completely optional at this point what will happen, but I really would be surprised if they went backwards from a reboot, or ditched it completely. I've never heard of that ever being done. Seriously can you imagine Crystal Dynamics saying "Yeah, you know that reboot we did on Lara? With her on the island and making her a born survivor and stuff? Yeah because it didn't sell to our expectation and you all complained about the multiplayer, we're just going to scrap all that hard work part and go back to Underworld." I'm just saying, a reboot happens when you're out of ideas. Just like the Silent Hill's might be under going a reboot soon, and even Metal Gear if I heard right, although I might getting that mixed up with Silent Hill [I need to check that one.]
Whether you hate it or not, NT gave them what they needed, a fresh slate, and whether Capcom do decide to continue with DmC2, and work with NT on it or not, they've got those choices open to them too. And it would be stupid to throw that away, more so when there's so much they could do with it. Devil May Cry 2 is apparently the weaker of the series, yet they bounced back with Devil May Cry 3, so there's no excuses that they couldn't do a complete turn around in making DmC2 more familar with the original, yet still doing it's own thing.
No I wouldn't want it be a DMC4 copy and try to mimic that game or Dante in it, Instead I'd want to see a DMC1 style, go right back to the beginning where the series was really good and best known for. Show us Dante older and when he's got his demon hunting business, and give us more with Vergil so he isn't written dead in the canon too early. Maybe that was the real problem with it, it's too far back in the storyline and it doesn't lead up sooner to what we're used to, in that we're used to seeing Dante in his shop. If there'd been a tie in with that element in this reboot, even to the last couple minutes, it might've established it better.
But...bottom line? It's better if they left the whole series alone for now, and focused on reworking Resident Evil or doing something with Megaman. People have wanted something from that series for ages. They should focus on their other titles that are getting neglected [I want me some Clock Tower :'( ]
Jak
i like turtles
i was just spittin the truth. but if you want rule 34...
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Well from DMC3 to DMC1 it carried over what became of Vergil at the end of DMC3 such as being possessed/corrupted by Mundus and used as his main pawn to help bring down Dante when he planned to take over the demon world.
From DMC1 to DMC4, when Nelo Angelo blew to pieces those pieces were used to create the Bianco Angelos and as well as Yamato (Vergil's former sword as well as Sparda's sword too) was used to power the Hell Gate. Also, DMC4 also brings to light the fact mentioned in DMC1 that Sparda once ruled the human world by stating he was the feudal lord of Fortune City.
There also plenty of unanswered questions, unexplored concepts, and many things they can do with the series.
Mundus isn't dead. He vowed to returned one day. In fact, in DMC4 there was a sign that says "Mundus Vivendi"...or something which was Latin for "Mundus Lives". Sanctus also in the beginning of DMC4 mentions of a prophesied day when the Demon and Human Worlds will merge once more something Arius implies in DMC2 (where in the DMC3 manga were it mentions that the human world and demon world were once one until they split apart creating the Human World and the Demon World.
DMC was more of a character driven series as it was more about the growth and development of the iconic devil hunter from young punk (DMC3) to highly experienced and skilled Devil Hunter who surpassed his father (DMC2).
DMC did or could've ended with DMC3...as someone said before DMC1 was the middle, DMC2 was the end, and DMC3 was the beginning of Dante's story.....but came DMC4 with crap more questions carrying over plot elements DMC1 and DMC3 and some of DMC2 practically creating a new legacy through Nero as well as bring more exposure to the mystery of Sparda.
Plus the ending of DMC2 was never clear if that was Dante or not (probably was at the time but left it open for a sequel which was never made).
Plus fans wanting a sequel to DMC2 (or DMC4) is very similar to that of wanting a Legends 3 since Legends 2 also ended on a cliffhanger.......Capcom was going to make a Legends 3 but it was canned....but that is besides the point.
Finished or not Capcom rebooted the series a bit early don't you think?
Alittleacorn
Smile it confuses people
Jak that is terrible...Lucia CLEARLY should've been waiting on his desk in sexy lingerie with a rose between her teeth!
...They did. I would've given the original at least one more game before they went ahead with this reboot.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
I never said give the DMC/DmC license to PG. I basically said if Capcom literally don't push out a new DMC game for a while PG will steal the show (maybe not with Bayonetta due to its current position) with MGR sequels and maybe other games and having a good majority of the DMC fanbase literally go elsewhere for its fix on fast paced, hack n slash gameplay (they've done it before).
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
I so want some more MegaMan bad. Capcom should just sell MegaMan to Nintendo. He wouldn't be forgotten in Nintendo's hands and they'd take good care of them.
I would also love some more Clock Tower. I recently just got my hands on the original game again. Clock Tower was great.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
The only Metal Gear game people are worried about is The Phantom Pain. You're not a Metal Gear fan. MGR is only decent and definitely not a good enough Metal Gear game. The Phantom Pain trailers have already erased the rather forgettable MGR out of people's minds. MGS V will raise the bar and blow a lot of games out the water.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
It could raise the bar.....I have to see it happen.
Yeah I'm not a Metal Gear fan. Not a big fan but I did like MG3 though. Prior to saying that how would you assume if I wasn't a MG fan. I mean is it cuz I like MGR as well I mean I know of plenty of people who like both MG, MGS, and MGR evenly
Is it cuz its a different genre from the old MG series? Well this doesn't pertain to MG but I'm a huge fan of the Battle Network and StarForce MegaMan games and those aren't platformers but RPGs. I guess I'm not a MegaMan fan then.
True it is decent and could use some works (better camera and improved mechanics) it has potential to be a great hack and slash series.
Chibi Dante
Keepin' it Stylish!
Looking at the votes, I'm happy people at least have an ounce of common sense.
It really doesn't matter at this point if DmC2 has more potential than DMC5. Potential cannot dictate popularity. Capcom needs something that will sell. DmC may have done some things better than DMC but in terms of sales, it flopped like a fish out of water. And don't tell me, "NO, IT DIDN'T FLOP BECAUSE CAPCOM LOWERED THEIR SALES EXPECTATIONS! 8D". Yeah? Well lowering your sales expectations doesn't make your product successful. It shows that you've made a poor business method by creating an unnecessary reboot in the first place. And our fan base is split. What did that accomplish? You really can't blame the fans either because when a developer makes a game, you always have to keep your consumer base in mind. You have to make something that will satisfy them. Not yourself. Now that's just being selfish.
DmC has been a PR nightmare from the very beginning. No one's mad over haircuts anymore. Like I said before, it doesn't matter if DmC has 9000x more potential than DMC. It doesn't matter if DmC is heralded as the best. The point is, fans of DMC get fuhked over because their series gets discontinued. That's fair? We have to get over it and accept what's gone? lol NOPE! I, and many others refuse. Yes, DMC's story is a clusterf*ck but it will never get fixed if we don't get a DMC5. Rebooting a franchise like DMC didn't eliminate any problems: It just prevents the hopes of it EVER getting better. Capcom hit a speed bump IMO. They need to get themselves out of it and just give us DMC5.
If they do DmC2 before DMC5, they must be stupid.
It really doesn't matter at this point if DmC2 has more potential than DMC5. Potential cannot dictate popularity. Capcom needs something that will sell. DmC may have done some things better than DMC but in terms of sales, it flopped like a fish out of water. And don't tell me, "NO, IT DIDN'T FLOP BECAUSE CAPCOM LOWERED THEIR SALES EXPECTATIONS! 8D". Yeah? Well lowering your sales expectations doesn't make your product successful. It shows that you've made a poor business method by creating an unnecessary reboot in the first place. And our fan base is split. What did that accomplish? You really can't blame the fans either because when a developer makes a game, you always have to keep your consumer base in mind. You have to make something that will satisfy them. Not yourself. Now that's just being selfish.
DmC has been a PR nightmare from the very beginning. No one's mad over haircuts anymore. Like I said before, it doesn't matter if DmC has 9000x more potential than DMC. It doesn't matter if DmC is heralded as the best. The point is, fans of DMC get fuhked over because their series gets discontinued. That's fair? We have to get over it and accept what's gone? lol NOPE! I, and many others refuse. Yes, DMC's story is a clusterf*ck but it will never get fixed if we don't get a DMC5. Rebooting a franchise like DMC didn't eliminate any problems: It just prevents the hopes of it EVER getting better. Capcom hit a speed bump IMO. They need to get themselves out of it and just give us DMC5.
If they do DmC2 before DMC5, they must be stupid.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Be prepared to get flooded with responses of people trying to say otherwise and debate against your statement...........opinion.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
The confusing thing here is how before people were saying they don't want Capcom t make DmC2 or have NT to do it.
Now that NT is literally unable to do a DmC2 for a pretty long time leaving Capcom alone and now they're saying they'll rather have Capcom make DmC2 than a DMC5.
Capcom said if they wanted the same old DMC they would've done it themselves and if they make DmC2 that is what it'll become the same old thing.
I remember once making my own version of DmC2 and people argued that it was too similar to the originals and now they're okay with Capcom making DmC2 themselves....odd change of heart.
Now that NT is literally unable to do a DmC2 for a pretty long time leaving Capcom alone and now they're saying they'll rather have Capcom make DmC2 than a DMC5.
Capcom said if they wanted the same old DMC they would've done it themselves and if they make DmC2 that is what it'll become the same old thing.
I remember once making my own version of DmC2 and people argued that it was too similar to the originals and now they're okay with Capcom making DmC2 themselves....odd change of heart.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
You're just a hack n slash fan. I'm fine with a cyborg ninja Metal Gear game. I've been wanting one ever since I saw Gray Fox show up in MGS 1. He was one of the coolest characters in that game. I just want a good one and MGR wasn't that good one. It still has Metal Gear in the title so see I expect a Metal Gear experience. Not some middle of the road ninja gaiden with Metal Gear wallpaper.
Especially when it's using a character that is terrible. The one that was suppose to be terrible in order for Kojima to use MGS 2 to pass his ambitious message of post modernism and actually "attacking" the otaku culture with the aspersions inveighed against them. But I digress. That's going too off topic here at the moment.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
So you think a DMC5 will make the series all better? The three years of hate and the death threats along with the constant heat NT got and the raging ****ed off hate that grew the more good DmC was doing on reviews and finally the biggest hatred that the fans have will all disappear with just ONE game?
And you say people should think with common sense.
It's gonna take more then just one DMC game for Capcom to get their raging, immature fans back. They really need to think hard on what to do next and tred carefully for now. Because after DmC, now people don't trust Capcom anymore. People are going to be hesitant now and even if the old Dante does come back (campy and all) it still doesn't mean everything will be back to normal like nothing ever happened. Also you have to take into account the DmC fans too who are also gonna be disappointed that DmC ended. Yes, it won't hit that hard, but it will still hit.
And lastly, you also have to think about why it was rebooted in the first place; it was getting stale and not bringing in the numbers they wanted. Capcom really needs to get serious about making a DMC5, because if they pull the same crap with DMC4 and doesn't try to elevate the gameplay, characters, environment, graphics, music, style system, etc, then people are gonna be ****ed...again.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
I mean what happened to both series can exist.
I mean if Capcom makes DMC5 its to well when NT is out of commission. No one is discarding DmC since its practically not going to continue without its original creators (unless if you guys you really want Capcom to make DmC2 instead) and they can make DMC5 and when NT is ready make a DmC2 and everyone will be happy.
I'm not saying replace DmC with DMC but make a new DMC game while DmC is on break.
Even Itsuno himself said that making DmC doesn't mean the old series is over. That opening one door doesn't close the other and even shows interest in going back to the old series.
I mean if Capcom makes DMC5 its to well when NT is out of commission. No one is discarding DmC since its practically not going to continue without its original creators (unless if you guys you really want Capcom to make DmC2 instead) and they can make DMC5 and when NT is ready make a DmC2 and everyone will be happy.
I'm not saying replace DmC with DMC but make a new DMC game while DmC is on break.
Even Itsuno himself said that making DmC doesn't mean the old series is over. That opening one door doesn't close the other and even shows interest in going back to the old series.