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Ebony;277339 said:
To be back on topic hehe :lol:, Dante doesn´t look like this guy(at least for me).
We Had It All Wrong! Dante REALLY looks like...
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To be back on topic hehe :lol:, Dante doesn´t look like this guy(at least for me).
Ebony;277339 said:
Whoops, sorry, you're absolutely right. Back on topic. ^^
VirgilTheart and I actually discussed this topic in private - Ninja theory is known to take in actors to motion capture facial expressions and such for storyline purposes, so perhaps indeed JRM is the one who acts like Dante and that is why Dante and JRM looks alike.
Andy Serkis, who played Gollum in the Lord of the Rings, were the director of the motion capturing of Heavenly Sword, and it indeed gave HS the feeling that it was a live-action movie during the cut-scenes, because the facial expressions were so realistic and most important of all, believable!
I hope NT puts the same work into DmC's storyline as it would just make it even more spectacular. I am indeed a fan of games with a great storyline, and most hack'n slash games don't really have that - God of War being one of the first of that genre to really tell a fantastic story, hence why it became such a success. Devil May Cry have always had a good story, but I think NT will take it to the next level.
And again, I wouldn't at all mind if JRM was the one who played Dante. Because DAYUM he's hot! It just can't be said enough times. XP
Vampi
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JRM is not Dante. Ninja Theory maybe only used his likeness and maybe sum of his personality traits that have come out of the media. But JRM is too much a high-profile actor to do sumthing like this (in other words, he's too expensive to hire).
Andy Serkis is a renown motion capture actor, so this is his specialty. And its good practice for him when he does big budget movies.
GOW story isn't THAT good. Its adequate and better then sum Japanese hack n' slash. But by the 3rd game it was starting to get predictable. We already knew that Kratos want to kill Zeus...like always.
DMC didn't always have a good story. DMC 1 story was non-existant but it told us what we needed to know to move on. DMC 2 was vague, but at least it was self-contained just a lil. DMC 3 has the best story. DMC 4 is cliche garbage.
Even though i think NT has the talent to make a good story. From what i've known so far from the info they gave out, they're taking the story to reflect real life a lil. That's fine in a sense, but i wish they would just stay the fantastical setting. They should be more Lord of the Rings then a Documentary. DMC doesn't have to reflect the culture of today, it can have sum elements in a way, but taking 70's Punk Revolution and going against the government or whatever, is just sumthing way out of DMC's identity.
I just really wish they stayed with the Gothic/Noire setting. I don't like Punk.
Andy Serkis is a renown motion capture actor, so this is his specialty. And its good practice for him when he does big budget movies.
GOW story isn't THAT good. Its adequate and better then sum Japanese hack n' slash. But by the 3rd game it was starting to get predictable. We already knew that Kratos want to kill Zeus...like always.
DMC didn't always have a good story. DMC 1 story was non-existant but it told us what we needed to know to move on. DMC 2 was vague, but at least it was self-contained just a lil. DMC 3 has the best story. DMC 4 is cliche garbage.
Even though i think NT has the talent to make a good story. From what i've known so far from the info they gave out, they're taking the story to reflect real life a lil. That's fine in a sense, but i wish they would just stay the fantastical setting. They should be more Lord of the Rings then a Documentary. DMC doesn't have to reflect the culture of today, it can have sum elements in a way, but taking 70's Punk Revolution and going against the government or whatever, is just sumthing way out of DMC's identity.
I just really wish they stayed with the Gothic/Noire setting. I don't like Punk.
VirgilTheart
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Vampi;277511 said:
What and Anna Torv wasn't too expensive to cast as Nariko in Heavenly Sword?
I wouldn't count him out so easily, Vampi. Plus, look at Square-Enix's Kingdom Hearts series; they have an all-star cast consisting of Haley Joel Osment, Leonard Nimoy, Christopher Lee and Jesse McCartney (and that's just a few folks in the series :lol: ) Anyways, the thing is, we can't really say he's too expensive; Jonathan Rhys Meyers, as talented an actor as he is, isn't exactly an actor that will live on in legend (thus far) Okay, now that's a bit of an insult to Andy Serkis, IMO.
True, he's best-known as Gollum and King Kong, but he's an established live-actor as well. He was freaking Einstein in one tv series! 
This is rather off-topic here, Vampi. This is merely about Dante's resemblance to JRM and the possibility he may be the new Dante (even if you don't think so, there's nothing that suggests he isn't Dante)
Vampi
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Voice acting is cheaper (depends on the actor) then motion capturing AND voice acting. The Kingdom Hearts cast only did voice acting. JRM is a well known name whose been in high-profile movies and TV shows. He won a Golden Globe for godsakes, you know how expensive it is to hire an actor of his caliber? ALOT! Maybe when he was an unknown actor he could've done this. But right now, there's no way he would do this unless they gave him a really big paycheck. And also, he might not be well known as Brad Pitt or Leo Dicaprio...but he's certainly getting there.
I'm not saying anything bad about Serkis, but that's what mostly he's known for. He specializes in motion capturing. Sumthing JRM is not familiar with.
Besides, the voice over in the trailer that says "My name is Dante" sounds nothing like JRM. So how do i know? It blatantly tells you. Besides, Tameem Antoniades would've said Dante was played by JRM if that were the case. He always tells who the character Andy Serkis is playing just to get attention. He wouldn't keep sumthing as big a secret as JRM playing Dante.
If i'm off topic blame Asmodaius for bringing up the DMC storyline. I was quoting him after all.
It would be nice to think JRM would play Dante. But that's simply not the case. Evidence shows otherwise, with the voiceover sounding nothing like him and Tameem not saying who Dante is being played by. Tameem i'm sure would divulge that in an instant.
But seriously folks get real. Developers design there characters on celebrities all the time. DMC 4 Dante look like Sawyer from Lost. Doesn't mean he was being played by the actor from Lost.
I'm not saying anything bad about Serkis, but that's what mostly he's known for. He specializes in motion capturing. Sumthing JRM is not familiar with.
Besides, the voice over in the trailer that says "My name is Dante" sounds nothing like JRM. So how do i know? It blatantly tells you. Besides, Tameem Antoniades would've said Dante was played by JRM if that were the case. He always tells who the character Andy Serkis is playing just to get attention. He wouldn't keep sumthing as big a secret as JRM playing Dante.
If i'm off topic blame Asmodaius for bringing up the DMC storyline. I was quoting him after all.
It would be nice to think JRM would play Dante. But that's simply not the case. Evidence shows otherwise, with the voiceover sounding nothing like him and Tameem not saying who Dante is being played by. Tameem i'm sure would divulge that in an instant.
But seriously folks get real. Developers design there characters on celebrities all the time. DMC 4 Dante look like Sawyer from Lost. Doesn't mean he was being played by the actor from Lost.
VirgilTheart
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Vampi;277561 said:
A Golden Globe automatically makes him impossible to be Dante? :huh: Sorry, but with Heavenly Sword's rather impressive casting (and note most of the actors/actresses in the game had no previous experience with Motion Capturing), I really don't think that Jonathan Rhys Meyers is out of the question.
You do realize that actors are capable of changing their voices, right? :O That's part of the point with acting (voice acting especially). :$ I should know, considering I plan to be a voice actor one day.
That said, they don't always announce the cast initially, you know. And I imagine (though I could be wrong), there was a bit of a wait as to when the games were initially announced, and when he mentioned "Oh yeah, Andy Serkis is in this game, so yeah, Gollum fans everywhere need to flock on over here for this game.", so on so forth. My apologies; I only saw your post and didn't see Asmo's until just now. Allow me to say this for everyone; Stay. On. Topic. ^_^
Uh, I'm not so sure about that. Already stated on how actors have range of voices and accents (at least some, and JRM's among them) and as for Tameem announcing it, who knows? Maybe he wanted fans to calm down before he added in Reuben Langdon's replacement into the mix; let's be honest here, Reuben is pretty much the overall fan-favorite of Dante's voice actors thus far. With all of the changes and what-not that DmC has already established with only a single trailer, and NT already predicting the fanbase reaction, perhaps they figured to wait and spare at least the cast for a while.
Hey, we're only considering that he might be a possibility, Vampi. Nothin' wrong with it, and while you do have a point on Developers basing their characters on celebrities, there really isn't any evidence against him NOT being Dante, so far it is a battle of logic (you) vs logic AND uncanny resemblance between JRM and Dante, NT having a history of using rather impressive actors (General Orvov's actor from the 80s Bond films was also in Heavenly Sword, btw) and motion capturing (us).
That said, if you're right about it (which you very well could be), I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong. ^_^
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VirgilTheart;277575 said:A Golden Globe automatically makes him impossible to be Dante? :huh: Sorry, but with Heavenly Sword's rather impressive casting (and note most of the actors/actresses in the game had no previous experience with Motion Capturing), I really don't think that Jonathan Rhys Meyers is out of the question.
Who are the actors for Heavenly Sword? I don't know any of them. The only one i know is Andy Serkis. The other people are probably well known in their native country, but not around the world. Unlike JRM who is known around the world. You're basing this off of acting alone when its of recognition. JRM is almost a A-List celebrity. I think you're just hoping for way too much out of this game.
You do realize that actors are capable of changing their voices, right? :O That's part of the point with acting (voice acting especially). :$ I should know, considering I plan to be a voice actor one day.
Changing their range a bit yes. But their is always a hint of there original voice. And also, JRM is not a renowned voice actor. There's no way he can change his voice like say sumone Andy Serkis convincingly. You're giving JRM way too much credit in an area he has no experience in.
Uh, I'm not so sure about that. Already stated on how actors have range of voices and accents (at least some, and JRM's among them) and as for Tameem announcing it, who knows? Maybe he wanted fans to calm down before he added in Reuben Langdon's replacement into the mix; let's be honest here, Reuben is pretty much the overall fan-favorite of Dante's voice actors thus far. With all of the changes and what-not that DmC has already established with only a single trailer, and NT already predicting the fanbase reaction, perhaps they figured to wait and spare at least the cast for a while.
JRM can only take away his native Irish accent...AT TIMES. I still notice a hint of it in sum of his movies and shows. He doesn't sound like sumone who can have a deep voice. That's why Johnny Yong Bosch mostly voices young guys and Steve Blum voices more deeper, raspy men.
Reuben Langdon has already said he's not working on DmC. And for me personally he's not my fave DMC voice actor for Dante. That goes to Drew Coombs (DMC 1 Dante's VA). Reuben made a great young Dante in DMC 3. But...yeah sooner or later he had to be replaced. But since DmC is about the young Dante...its kinda stupid they replaced him. But then again, Reuben's acting isn't that great anyway.
Hey, we're only considering that he might be a possibility, Vampi. Nothin' wrong with it, and while you do have a point on Developers basing their characters on celebrities, there really isn't any evidence against him NOT being Dante, so far it is a battle of logic (you) vs logic AND uncanny resemblance between JRM and Dante, NT having a history of using rather impressive actors (General Orvov's actor from the 80s Bond films was also in Heavenly Sword, btw) and motion capturing (us).
The thing is its not possible with the evidence it shows (again the voice over doesn't match JRM). Also, Tameem would've announced it. Its not sum huge secret to divulge whose playing Dino since saying the VA's name isn't compromising the game.
So i guess if i made a cartoon that looked exactly like JRM, that automatically means he must be played by JRM. Cause ya know, if a character looks like particular celebrity then that celebrity that there based on must be playing it. You know how ridiculous that sounds. Even licensed movie games don't use the movies actors for voices.
NT does cast good actors. The difference is their unknown with Andy being the slight exception. Other then that its probably actors who are practically unknown or had a noticeable career years ago, or even decades ago. Sumthing JRM is nowhere near of as of late.
That said, if you're right about it (which you very well could be), I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong. ^_^
You might as well admit you're wrong now. You're in for a rude awakening. But whatever. Just don't try to make it seem its highly possible when most likely its not.
VirgilTheart;277575 said:
Sorry. -goes to sit in the corner of shame-
I found it worth mentioning, but I am sorry that it was off-topic.
I didn't know JRM had won a Golden Globe, that's pretty big. However, we don't really know how much money Capcom and Ninja Theory have invested in this game... I wonder if they have to pay a celebrity if their characters' looks are based on them. If that's the case, then it would be cool if they had just gone all the way and gotten JRM as Dante.
These are just mere specualations, not saying they are.
Vampi
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Maybe JRM can play Dino in a movie. But i highly doubt Capcom and NT have the cash to hire him. The DmC project is ambitious enough with Capcom USA, Capcom Japan, Capcom Europe and Ninja Theory involved. I'm sure Capcom has a budget for this project and hiring sumone whose really well known that ask for a higher amount of money then maybe Serkis is way too much for them.
VirgilTheart
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Asmodaius;277616 said:Gold!
JRM starring as Dante in the film version of DmC... I would love that.
A boy can dream...
Indeed it would be gold...
@Vampi; I won't admit I'm wrong (because neither of us know that one yet), but I'm not saying I'm right either. And out of curiosity, why are you responding so strongly on the matter?
It's just fans conversing between one another on what (or in this occasion, who) may be in a game. 
... Ooooookay then...
First of all, no one are saying that JRM indeed IS Dante, but we are discussing how interesting it would be if he was.
You are starting to come off as a raging fan now, Vampi. Try and relax, have some fun on the forums instead of being serious all the time.
First of all, no one are saying that JRM indeed IS Dante, but we are discussing how interesting it would be if he was.
You are starting to come off as a raging fan now, Vampi. Try and relax, have some fun on the forums instead of being serious all the time.
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Well, I'm sorry but I don't know who JRM is and you're sadly mistaken for someone else. If you think I said I truly believed he's playing Dante, can ya point out the thread I said that in Vampi? I'd be more than happy to read it over and see if that's what I actually agreed to.
I'm just askin' where you read it, I'm not being personal about it
I'm just askin' where you read it, I'm not being personal about it
Vampi
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Faustinasa;277649 said:Well, I'm sorry but I don't know who JRM is and you're sadly mistaken for someone else. If you think I said I truly believed he's playing Dante, can ya point out the thread I said that in Vampi? I'd be more than happy to read it over and see if that's what I actually agreed to.
I'm just askin' where you read it, I'm not being personal about it
Oops my Bad! I apologize for mistaking you for VirgiTheart. :$
Also a theory needs evidence to go by. Just because Dino looks like JRM means nothing. Like i said, DMC 4 Dante looks like the actor who plays Sawyer from Lost, but he's not playing DMC 4 Dante is he.
So in other words, looks mean nothing in solidifying that the actor who looks like Dino is actually playing Dino cause the evidence doesn't support it.
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