Well considering DMC3 is prequel it's pretty logic that it was his first day in buro. Besides it was pretty clear he was still closed, since he officially opens in the end of the game. And remember he didn't heard what's being said on telefon he shots him off from the beginning with "we're closed yet."
It was a thought. Either way, Dante's desire to protect people still remains something that inspired his business in the first place. It's not like Dante is unwilling to protect people when he's "off the clock".
We know for certain that Dante and Vergil fought alongside in the past.
How do we know that they ever fought together? Literally nothing throughout the entirety of the franchise alludes to such a thing.
I doubt it would be remotely possible if Vergil was straight evil as Arkham.
And therein lies the problem, there's nothing to tell us otherwise, or tell us more. Granted, Vergil isn't "evil", he's just a power-hungry jerk. Certainly an antagonist, but he's not strictly evil for evil's sake, we just don't know.
That doesn't proves you're right either. And honestly it's pretty stupid to write backstory for ALL characters except Vergil. Because even Sanctus had more motivation than Vergil by your logic.
Except everything I said was facts laid out by the game, everything you've said is conjecture an theory, stuff that you assume.
Sanctus was pretty meh as a villain too. That is part of why Devil May Cry as a franchise has a subpar narrative - characters have just enough motivation to be
something, but the only ones that ever have a chance to get more dimensions are the ones that have multiple appearances that are able to be expanded on, and the only one that's had that was Dante, and Nero, because half a game was all about him - and even then they didn't go into the things we really wanted to know about him.
We also know they have battle experience in fighting alongside, something that happened later than in childhood.
They have fighting experience, but there's still nothing to say they have fought alongside before. Dante intimately knows how to use any weapon he just received, and the brothers adapt well. They may have goofed off together as kids (like what was shown in DmC), but there's still nothing that says they fought together.
Arkham was sorcerer but still human. Something Vergil mocked him about.
Still a threat that he felt needed to be dealt with. Plus, when he passed up Lady, it was after he realized how totally not worth it it was to bother engaging her. He trounced her in one swing, why bother with someone that weak when there are more pressing matters at hand, y'know?
Well no sense giving redeeming qualities even in the beginning if he was only about power.
"F#ck everyone, get power" is Vergil's motivation. His one-note relationship with Dante isn't the same.
I still remind you of all those little tips you get along the game that you prefer to ignore.
I just talked about "all those little tips" that didn't do anything to expand his character. You literally just replied to them.
So far the only thing I mentioned and wasn't in game was part with a Lady, since I forgot what exactly he said to her. It's you who is headstrong tries to prove that he was just flat villain who only cared about power without any backstory or motivation.
No, you keep telling me your
interpretations of things in the game. Vergil is an antagonist with very one-dimensional motives, and the game doesn't present us with anything else that explains his motivations or inspirations for anything he does. You cannot point to
anything within the game that doesn't require some sort of assumption or guesswork to explain.
"Never show that face before me again." -Vergil to Trish (UMVC3) reason:
"How repulsive..." -Vergil to Trish (UMC3)
If Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 didn't do anything to seal away that "One dimensional" character ordeal of yours. Then why are you even in here?
UMVC3 is exactly how everyone envisions Vergil. Alot of his text quotes in the game are also honorable. I might dig them up, but then again let me ask Vergil.
What do you think he'd say?
Those aren't even part of DMC, though, and all they do is point to Vergil not liking that some demon has his mother's face. It does nothing to show explain some sense of greater motivation beyond what he showed in DMC3.
Even all of his quotes in UMvC3 are simply in line with his personality as shown in DMC3 - arrogance, vilifying weakness, singing praise of power and strength, and embracing power that is otherwise suppressed. That and whining about guns. Being honorable denotes a great deal of respect and Vergil shows very little respect of pretty much anyone - even those who could beat him he regards with smugness and arrogance. He's not an honorable fellow.
Cool, confident, and arrogant, but not honorable.
This is true, but there are a lot of things in the series that are a common belief, but never stated in the games themselves. For example, "They received the amulets at the age of 8, DMC is 20 years later therefore Dante is 28"
Maybe I'm missing something but I never saw the 8 years old thing anywhere other than the wiki. But I suppose that's a discussion for another thread.
Yeah, in DMC1 there's that audio flashback where Eva says "Dante, Vergil, happy birthday" in a very blatant exposition-y kinda way >.< Then we know it's been at least twenty years because of what Eva says at the beginning of DMC1. I don't remember anything about them being eight, either.
Apologies, my statement wasn't directed at you. There were just a lot of posts just saying "he's flat blah blah" without giving any reason for or leaving room for civil discussion. You did give your reasons.
Nothing wrong with discussing theories! =) At this point, headcanon is really all we have to go on.
Oh, sorreh >.<
Maybe that's why some of us like him, he's selfish and cold. Dante's whole "selfless hero saving the innocent" thing gets kind of old.
...I'm clearly biased towards bad guys. XD
Hey, more often than not the bad guys tend to be a bit more interesting. The dark hero and anti-hero got really popular in the face of all the boy scout heroes that were so huge for so long.
And don't get me wrong, people. I like Vergil as a character, much in the same way I like Dante as a character. They do cool **** and Vergil has a very cool demeanor that I like as a counter to the ninja turtle that is Dante. I just have no problem admitting his motivations are flat and he doesn't have much else going on.
