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Well that's dangerous thinking chief. Refusing to increase the roster and over-reliance on tested concepts is the fast track to stagnation. If you keep the same basic character abilities and just throw on a gimmick now and then, you're left with Modern Warfare.

Well, Dante didn't have the same basic abilities, his new moveset allowed access to all his styles at once, plus new weapons. It took combat to the next level while still allowing for familiarity; you don't want the old moves completely switched out, just evolved. The Devil Bringer was part of that evolution, and if it was fluidly combined with Dante's moveset and set against a broader selection of maps and dynamic bosses, with a tighter story to bind it all together, I think it would have been anything but stagnant. Sequels have to try new things without abandoning the old, otherwise you might as well just make a new IP.

Imagine if they had been a bit more ambitious with the cast, bringing in radically new personas and fighting styles, characters with wildly different gameplay. Hell, I though they were leading up to that with the way that the Devil May Cry agency had expanded by DMC4.

Yeah, the lack of unique costumes in DMC4 was almost painful. Getting to play as a properly differentiated Nero, Lady, or Credo, with their wild movesets and just enough adjustment to the maps, enemies, and story to make their (probably much shorter by necessity) paths different from Dante's main story would have been amazing.
 
I'm all for this, but...there's far too many people who don't have a stance like ChaserTech's that allows them to be respectable despite their disinterest or lower view of the product. I can't count the number of times I've seen people challenge what I say with near-legitimate statements, and then ruin any credibility I could see in them ending their comments with "This game is sh*t. Period. Just accept it." That just...it's unreasonable, because it's not "sh*t" it may not live up to the standards they want it to have, but their standards aren't law, and people still enjoy it.

Maybe my views of a "sh*t game" are a lot lower, because my definition of a "sh*t game" is Vampire Rain - DmC is nowhere near something like that :/

What you're missing is the wonderful power of veto you, and every human on the internet possesses. It's called "Ignoring". If someone is making their debate in a poor way, you can point that out in a calm way and if they continue, you reply with nothing.

Apathy is the most lethal of retorts, right above parody.

And I'd say that DmC hurts much more than something like Vampire's Rain. While with VR you have no expectations and it's so bad it's almost comical, DmC carries so much more emotional weight for those who have followed the license since '01 and every flaw seems a million-fold.
 
Two words. Dante Dante. As in...lets do what all adults who know a thing or two about the series should do.



Put the original dante from dmc 3 since it has the biggest following...and the new dante, with an apparently equally large following...aaaaannnnddd.....

Pit them against each other on Mugen? XD

Some bickering between the two would of course be complimentary, since they are both...Dante.
 
Sorry to bump up this really old thread but ZeroLove you replied to a PM I seemed to have sent you (which I don't even recall) and I can't see the reply because your profile is private sooooo what was it that you replied about?

Sorry, hadn't updated that part since I returned. But it should be available for viewing pleasure now. ^^
 
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