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Overall how do you guys feel about direction DMC is going?

TWOxACROSS said:
I think they could have added in a bit more depth by adding double-forward inputs (Stinger's) on the Special move key as well, and maybe some back-forward inputs, although those may be a bit too much..
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I had the same thoughts. Maybe Y+B. Y+X. Forward-forward+X(for something like Gun Stinger). Forward-forward+Y in the air.

They could add a ton of moves, and it's shut up the folks whining about the lack of moves due to the absence of the style button.
 
8BitHero said:
I think the story is HUUUUGE improvement than the previous games. I could follow the DMC games generally easy but didn't really think much of them. This new DmC, since it's NT they're all about giving an awesome story with incredible artwork. The combat does feel watered down and I wouldn't mind it being slightly more hectic. A few more enemies on screen and sped-up gameplay.
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^This

Also, they're going to include two more difficulties once it comes out from what I understand.

You'll have Heaven and Hell(Dante and all enemies die in one touch plus insane amounts of enemy waves), and then Hell and Hell(everything above, except only Dante dies in one hit). I look forward to playing those two modes.

In terms of the direction DmC is going, I like it, as the story so far makes A LOT more sense than the original. Don't get me wrong, I like the originals as much as anyone else does, but it lacked story. There were so many open ends, it wasn't even funny. I'm sure a perfect example of this would be DMC 4, as Nero has nothing to explain himself in terms of back-story, and Dante and Trish were just there. Now the combat is a little watered down, but it makes up for it by mixing together play-styles from DMC 3 and 4. As for targeting? I actually like that it isn't there, because the original DMCs made it obnoxious to target certain enemies when other ones could just strafe right in your sight and you'd be set on them instead of the one you were wailing on before.

Besides, I also like what they're providing for bosses so far. They actually look disgusting/terrifying, as demons should! Whereas in the original DMC series, only the first one had bosses that made me go "Whaaaatdafuuuuq?!". Every one after that kinda got "Meh." And as some of you have probably stated before, I'm gonna repeat it myself: I got tired of the anime gothic pretty boy running around and pwning everything in his wake just because he can. Nero was a step in the right direction providing a reason(other than a job *coughDantecough*), but didn't quite satisfy what I was hoping for. A lot of nay-sayers are going "BLARGH! DmC is stupid because it's not DMC!! I want DMC 5 even if there isn't a decent story-line to it!" And all the other excuses that I expect to read from Youtube. Seriously, stop being so single-minded and actually show some flexibility! Trying out a game that has the same title, but different spin is NOT gonna kill you or "ruin your credibility as a DMC fan". It's just a game!


Ranting out of the way, in the end, I don't care what the nay-sayers wanna cry about. I'm getting this game, and I'm going to play it six feet under, and then hey, I might even provide a review up here. And if anyone wants to gripe at me about it? Oh well! You're the ones making silly-nillys outta yourself(trying to be nice), not me.
 
TyIquan_DmC said:
I had the same thoughts. Maybe Y+B. Y+X. Forward-forward+X(for something like Gun Stinger). Forward-forward+Y in the air.

They could add a ton of moves, and it's shut up the folks whining about the lack of moves due to the absence of the style button.
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I really hope they've been holding back on the amount of moves/upgrades we can unlock because so far the only upgrades I've seen are for more damage/range and that's it.
 
So it seems like everyone is sololy ready for this reboot then well, im not hyped up for it like i was for the others. Maybe later down the road if they make DMC 5 maybe they might throw in the better looking demons and whatnot, But whatever a game is a game nothing more.
 
Zarathustra said:
^This

Also, they're going to include two more difficulties once it comes out from what I understand.

You'll have Heaven and Hell(Dante and all enemies die in one touch plus insane amounts of enemy waves), and then Hell and Hell(everything above, except only Dante dies in one hit). I look forward to playing those two modes.
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Those difficulties are from the original DMC games.
In terms of the direction DmC is going, I like it, as the story so far makes A LOT more sense than the original. Don't get me wrong, I like the originals as much as anyone else does, but it lacked story. There were so many open ends, it wasn't even funny. I'm sure a perfect example of this would be DMC 4, as Nero has nothing to explain himself in terms of back-story, and Dante and Trish were just there. Now the combat is a little watered down, but it makes up for it by mixing together play-styles from DMC 3 and 4. As for targeting? I actually like that it isn't there, because the original DMCs made it obnoxious to target certain enemies when other ones could just strafe right in your sight and you'd be set on them instead of the one you were wailing on before.
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Dante and Trish were doing their job which is to hunt and kill demons. But in this particular mission they were also after the devil arm yamato and prevent the "order" from opening the hell gates with the devil arm. Also in the original DMC the targeting wasn't obnoxious you just let go of the hard lock-on and attack the other enemy then lock-on again if you want to perform high time, stinger, etc.
Ranting out of the way, in the end, I don't care what the nay-sayers wanna cry about. I'm getting this game, and I'm going to play it six feet under, and then hey, I might even provide a review up here. And if anyone wants to gripe at me about it? Oh well! You're the ones making silly-nillys outta yourself(trying to be nice), not me.
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I'd say in general people are concerned because this game isn't being developed by Capcom internally like all the past dmcs. Yes DMC2 was a fumble compared to the other games, but the rest were good (besides DMC4's backtracking). Like I'd be fine if NT did the art direction and story and Capcom developed the game engine, but that would only be in a perfect world.
 
Well the next gen is coming up soon anyways so its leading to that i guess, but again i hope if they do i hope they wont half-ass the game and at least learn from DmC and make is something amazing. I also think using the picture set is my avatar on here would be a perfect design for Dante in DMC 5 unless that was used in the concept for DMC 4 Dante, im not entirely sure on that.
 
Well, I believe DmC will offer more story, more plot and more info about the characters and their lives.

That's what keeps me looking for more and more stuff and info about the game.

Let's begin with the classic series. The plot was so basic and formulaic as it gets. A kid could have written that, fast!

DMC story: "A demon called Sparda. He used to fight with Mundus. However, he got to know a human called Eva. They had 2 kids ( Vergil and Dante). Mundus felt betrayed. Sparda fought and sealed him. Now, Mundus is back and Dante is a demon hunter and must deal with him. During the game, Ddante discovers Nelo Angelo is actually Vergil, defeats him. Then, Dante defeats Mundus and seals him. He won't come back for the next 2000 years. Dante's shop is renamed Devil Never Cry".

See? DMC's plot is paper thin. The plot came full circle. Sparda sealed the bad guy. Dante sealed the bad guy again. It's over. Mundus was the ultimate villain. He won't come back for the next 2000 years. No sequel is needed. DMC 1 worked 100% fine as the only game. DMC 3 worked because it was a prequel, but a very incomplete prequel. It explained nothing about Dante's and Vergil's past. Dante magically already knew how to kill demons. Vergil already knew how to fight and stab Dante. What about their family? What about their fears? How did they survive after losing their parents? How did they learn about the demons and how to fight them? Right, zero explanation.

DMC 2 was not needed. Plot was basically a poor version of DMC 1. Arius created Lucia, just like Mundus created Trish. Plotholes galore, bad guy was a lame Kazuya wannabe. French accent was freaking hilarious. You did even manage to fight Balrog ( the Tusk creature from Lord of The Rings) in the game. I don't remember the name in DMC 2, though.

DMC 4 was about Nero. That was Capcom's fatal mistake. Come on, DMC IS and it'll ALWAYS BE about Dante. I don't want to see a crying demon boy running to save his girlfriend. This is not what DMC is about. It doesn't matter if it has a good gameplay. That's NOT DMC, it's just a Metal Gear Solid 2 nightmare. I was forced to play with a character that I didn't know and never had seen before. Crap! Dante was a secondary character, what was even wrose. Game had 20 missions and I had to play as Nero during 13 of them and only 7 with Dante. Talk about being unbalanced.

At least, they could have put 10 missions with Nero and the later 10 missions with Dante. It doesn't matter, fan reaction wasn't good and that's why Capcom didn't have anything else to do with DMC.

So, that's why they gave NT a chance. I mean, we have Mundus, Vergil, Dante. We have a plot with them, we get to see more about the past, more about what happened to each of them. What happened to Eva, Sparda ( is he alive in DmC?). How can it be bad? At least, it's a betetr effort than DMC2, 4 and even 3 ( for some part).

No wasted golden chances. I believe DMC is over. It's DmC chance now. I hope they won't kill Vergil. He has a good chance to be used for a possible sequel.

If they make another DMC game, DON'T call it DMC 5. Call it Devil Never Cry, instead. If it's possible, bring back Kamiya and the same crew from DMC 1. Forget DMC 2 crappy ending.

Devil Never Cry plot: It could be related to DMC 1. A human tries to bring back Mundus back. Mundus won't come back, but the human will basically absorb Mundus powers. After beating him, Dante will be sucked to hell, where he'll meet Mundus personally and his true form. Mundus will try to mess up Dante's mind, by taking Sparda's form, Vergil's form and even Eva's form. Give Dante fear, a formidable foe, a danger feeling. Forget the parody crap from DMC 4. This time, Dante will have to kill Mundus for once and for all. Earth's future depends on Dante and Trish. Make 3 campaigns: Dante, trish and Lady. Finish the story after that. No more nero crap, no devil bringer crap, no Kyrie crap.

However, knowing that Kamiya won't come back, we know DMC is dead. That's why I'm eager to play DmC, because maybe that's the chance to see what should have been before, respecting a story instead of creating new characters.

Sorry for the long post. XD
 
Devil Player said:
Well, I believe DmC will offer more story, more plot and more info about the characters and their lives.

That's what keeps me looking for more and more stuff and info about the game.

Let's begin with the classic series. The plot was so basic and formulaic as it gets. A kid could have written that, fast!

DMC story: "A demon called Sparda. He used to fight with Mundus. However, he got to know a human called Eva. They had 2 kids ( Vergil and Dante). Mundus felt betrayed. Sparda fought and sealed him. Now, Mundus is back and Dante is a demon hunter and must deal with him. During the game, Ddante discovers Nelo Angelo is actually Vergil, defeats him. Then, Dante defeats Mundus and seals him. He won't come back for the next 2000 years. Dante's shop is renamed Devil Never Cry".

See? DMC's plot is paper thin. The plot came full circle. Sparda sealed the bad guy. Dante sealed the bad guy again. It's over. Mundus was the ultimate villain. He won't come back for the next 2000 years. No sequel is needed. DMC 1 worked 100% fine as the only game. DMC 3 worked because it was a prequel, but a very incomplete prequel. It explained nothing about Dante's and Vergil's past. Dante magically already knew how to kill demons. Vergil already knew how to fight and stab Dante. What about their family? What about their fears? How did they survive after losing their parents? How did they learn about the demons and how to fight them? Right, zero explanation.

DMC 2 was not needed. Plot was basically a poor version of DMC 1. Arius created Lucia, just like Mundus created Trish. Plotholes galore, bad guy was a lame Kazuya wannabe. French accent was freaking hilarious. You did even manage to fight Balrog ( the Tusk creature from Lord of The Rings) in the game. I don't remember the name in DMC 2, though.

DMC 4 was about Nero. That was Capcom's fatal mistake. Come on, DMC IS and it'll ALWAYS BE about Dante. I don't want to see a crying demon boy running to save his girlfriend. This is not what DMC is about. It doesn't matter if it has a good gameplay. That's NOT DMC, it's just a Metal Gear Solid 2 nightmare. I was forced to play with a character that I didn't know and never had seen before. Crap! Dante was a secondary character, what was even wrose. Game had 20 missions and I had to play as Nero during 13 of them and only 7 with Dante. Talk about being unbalanced.

At least, they could have put 10 missions with Nero and the later 10 missions with Dante. It doesn't matter, fan reaction wasn't good and that's why Capcom didn't have anything else to do with DMC.

So, that's why they gave NT a chance. I mean, we have Mundus, Vergil, Dante. We have a plot with them, we get to see more about the past, more about what happened to each of them. What happened to Eva, Sparda ( is he alive in DmC?). How can it be bad? At least, it's a betetr effort than DMC2, 4 and even 3 ( for some part).

No wasted golden chances. I believe DMC is over. It's DmC chance now. I hope they won't kill Vergil. He has a good chance to be used for a possible sequel.

If they make another DMC game, DON'T call it DMC 5. Call it Devil Never Cry, instead. If it's possible, bring back Kamiya and the same crew from DMC 1. Forget DMC 2 crappy ending.

Devil Never Cry plot: It could be related to DMC 1. A human tries to bring back Mundus back. Mundus won't come back, but the human will basically absorb Mundus powers. After beating him, Dante will be sucked to hell, where he'll meet Mundus personally and his true form. Mundus will try to mess up Dante's mind, by taking Sparda's form, Vergil's form and even Eva's form. Give Dante fear, a formidable foe, a danger feeling. Forget the parody crap from DMC 4. This time, Dante will have to kill Mundus for once and for all. Earth's future depends on Dante and Trish. Make 3 campaigns: Dante, trish and Lady. Finish the story after that. No more nero crap, no devil bringer crap, no Kyrie crap.

However, knowing that Kamiya won't come back, we know DMC is dead. That's why I'm eager to play DmC, because maybe that's the chance to see what should have been before, respecting a story instead of creating new characters.

Sorry for the long post. XD
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I would agree with you, if it weren't for the heavy amounts of biased opinion. Mind you, I respect you for your opinion, but try to keep it as much in neutral standing as possible. It's bad enough we have multiple threads where people keep spewing the same love/hate for either side of Devil May Cry as is.
 
Well, that's the one and only topic where I posted such opinion. That's how it'll be, though.

It's not about love/hate, because well, I played all the games and I own all of them. However, that doesn't mean I think they don't have their flaws. In fact, I still think DMC 1 didn't need any sequels. Overall, it was hit or miss, hit or miss.

Sure, it's just my opinion, like you said. I also respect yours. So, no big deal. :)
 
Devil Player said:
Well, that's the one and only topic where I posted such opinion. That's how it'll be, though.

It's not about love/hate, because well, I played all the games and I own all of them. However, that doesn't mean I think they don't have their flaws. In fact, I still think DMC 1 didn't need any sequels. Overall, it was hit or miss, hit or miss.

Sure, it's just my opinion, like you said. I also respect yours. So, no big deal. :)
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Fair enough.
 
I kinda liked the direction headed. DmC is just different from the other past DMC games, since it's more like a Western approach, including the character himself. Even the gameplay is great IMO, what makes DmC caught my interest is the storytelling. I kinda like the new Dante since I love character arcs. And so does Vergil. Yes, he's a total jerk compared to classic Dante, but they intended that for his characterization.

I fully disagree on the video with the title "Why DmC's Dante is Such a Bad Character?" It's just a ploy to get more hate, even the uploader has valid points. No I wonder: why no one have ever made a "Why Daniel Craig's James Bond is Such a Bad Character?" video?



Oh wait. No one did. :P Hey, I've watched Skyfall and it was a great Bond film. The best Craig Bond film since Casino Royale.
 
Yo, what do you guys think about the game's script in and of itself.

The scenes in which Vergil lays out the exposition (we are Nephilim/ take down Raptor News, Virility, and then Mundus) seem sort of clumsy to me.

On the other hand, I really really love the things poison says to Dante.

And then there's the fact that when the oh-so-dreaded "sex scene" was leaked online, fans were up in arms about how badly it was written.

So far, it's all sort of mixed to me.
 
A story can feel really clumsy when you only see it in heavily edited clusters. Vergil's exposition will probably make a lot more sense with the rest of the game wrapped around it.

I think the script will be just fine, and I really do like all the moments where we see more personality from the characters, primarily Dante and his sillier side. They messed up by focusing so much on Dante's angry side :/

Sex scene was okay, too. Awkward to watch, and horrifying seeing Lilith's face jostle around, but it's not really "badly written" or anything. I'm not even sure how you can badly right a small scene like that, and it was still in line with the game's more mature tone.
 
Well either way everyone has their own opinion to the matter at the moment. If DMC 1 was so great, which i can understand your points then why create DmC, from what it seems, DmC isnt even needed, regardless if its a reboot. People will have their opinion supporting either sides of the series. I support the original full on rather than the reboot and some will support the reboot's full side. Either this pointless arguments are stupid because it doesnt change anything, except for those who will get upset with what someone says. If they were to make a DMC 5 game then they should explain alot of ****, make it worth playing and very long then ending the original series for good. I, for one liked the original and sure it didnt have a nice story built behind it, which could have been more detail, but i enjoyed the playthrough and played all and enjoyed all of them, yes even DMC 2. Those were times of the ps2 era so mistakes were bond to happen to the series and after DMC 1's creator left, i saw where it fell. Capcom sucks whenever it comes to creating stories and making their fans happy and i can seeing giving it to a company where their games werent all that great but thats just my opinion. Design for the reboot is lame because of Capcom, its their game after all, but im not surprised Vergil didnt change since he wasnt all that important anyways so at least they kept the originality to him but the concept still sucks.
 
DMC 5 story plot should be around three stories, Vergil, Nero, Dante. From there, killing Mundus for all, probably killing off Nero or something to make the haters shut up about him. I actually enjoyed playing as Nero :D
 
I liked Nero for gameplay. His devil bringer arm brought something new to the table. But as a character, he was a little flat for me. I think I would have liked him more if he was given a background story, instead of just expecting me to accept that somehow he has a devil arm with no explaination. Also, him shouting Kyrie a lot was pretty annoying.I also didn't like how Dante seemed last-minute added on. But I still enjoyed the missions I did play with him.

As for DmC, I love the way the story is going. It's great that the developers are going to give some solid background and history to the characters, and some motivations for why characters act like they do. That was the only thing lacking for me in classic DMC. The story was kinda mixed up, so I was hoping for some resolution, but I'm still happy about new DmC and the story direction.
Gameplay wise, I was finding it easy to get the top S rank even for the hardest difficulty on the demo once I had worked out the controls and what each enemy did. But I still had fun, and besides, there's the even harder modes in the full game, so I'm sure they will be a challenge. I'm just looking forward to having fun with all the game has to offer.
 
VergilNeroDante said:
DMC 5 story plot should be around three stories, Vergil, Nero, Dante. From there, killing Mundus for all, probably killing off Nero or something to make the haters shut up about him. I actually enjoyed playing as Nero :D
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Dude, if they killed off Nero, it would give the haters even more reason not to shut up about him. Either way, they're going to gripe, bitch and moan regardless. It's simply a dumb choice left to dumb people. Simple as that.
 
TWOxACROSS said:
A story can feel really clumsy when you only see it in heavily edited clusters. Vergil's exposition will probably make a lot more sense with the rest of the game wrapped around it.

I think the script will be just fine, and I really do like all the moments where we see more personality from the characters, primarily Dante and his sillier side. They messed up by focusing so much on Dante's angry side :/

Sex scene was okay, too. Awkward to watch, and horrifying seeing Lilith's face jostle around, but it's not really "badly written" or anything. I'm not even sure how you can badly right a small scene like that, and it was still in line with the game's more mature tone.
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Oh, I still like parts of the script. From what I could hear, Phineas, Vergil, and Dante were really well-done most of the time (that's judging by 2-minute cutscenes we were allowed to see, that is); but what worries me is Mundus.

Our first glimpse of Mundus was an arrogant, power-hungry fiend with a god-complex. But a few snippets (shorter than a minute) just show him in a tower, plotting like a cheesy bad guy from an older DMC game (although with dirtier language).

I'm still sure that they'll make him more interesting later on in the game--especially after Lilith is kidnapped--but I wish they'd make him less of a caricature.

Just a small complaint, nothing big ^_^
 
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