I've always thought they've been a blend of both sides of the tracks, but it was mostly a western look with eastern trimmings.
My opinion; either a DmC2 or no more DMC games!
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I've always thought they've been a blend of both sides of the tracks, but it was mostly a western look with eastern trimmings.
Loopy
Devil hunter in training
Original Dante was the Japanese idea of what Western cool is. Like a Japanese spin on it. For example, DMC4 Dante looked like a coboy; then there's the pizza eating, the guns and the motorcycles.
Ahhh, now I get it. Arguments on this subject could sometimes be a little confusing.
O.G.
Dino's Meth supplier
No, no.. Most suck compared to the veterans, but yeah, I agree with an easier game being needed to introduce the mainstream player to these games (be it hack & slash or just the dmc series).
I mostly agree about the old Dante's character, but it could be solved in so many ways.. And I'm not only mad about Ninja Theory's choices and doings, but also disappointed in Capcom's choice for assisting and trusting Ninja Theory in the character design. To me NT was a wrong choice. (And I'm not saying this because I'd like to stab Antoniades' face).
Dante's witty jokes are also shared by a lot of other characters (Alucard, Wolverine), but his red coat and white hair made him unique and he stood out as himself, as Dante. Destroying his uniqueness was what made a lot of people angry.
Dante never had to be badass or emo, he needs to be cool. Also, those witty jokes in the presence of the most dangerous situations is an ingredient which gave us the best characters ever. Spiderman, Alucard, Wolverine, etc.
Is Spiderman BADASS? No, but this specific kind of humor is one of the most important parts of their character which shows that these guys are cool.
Do you know how different Bane from Batman was in the comics? And have you seen the movie? Or Iron Man?
That's a good way to modernize a character.
Remember Prince of Persia? The only reason some people liked the movie was because of the special effects and the theme. Not because of his movie character which clearly lacked an original, unique personality which defines the hero, Prince of Persia.
Remember the Dante from the first DmC trailer? Why did everybody call this guy a drug-addict? What do drug-addicts share? Are they cool? NO.
They didn't put effort into making a unique character. Did they have respect? Antoniades' tried to put his own hairstyle on Dante and gave us the wig as an insult. Homage to the old Dante? No, a cameo from Antoniades self (the logo on the jacket). Professionality was not the case, here.
Will we remember this Dante for a long time (because of how he was in the game and not because of all the drama outside of the game)? We won't. Even the Shepard from Mass Effect without a standard face we will, the black guy from GTA San Andreas we will, the DMC 3 (or even 4) Dante or Nero we will, but DmC Dante from the game, we won't remember. (The Dante from the trailer, we also will. That WAS unique. Not in a good way, though.)
To sum it up, It's hard to make a good character that satisfies everybody, but Ninja Theory f*cked up big time on the character part. Not only Dante. The others as well.
I would welcome a reboot or accept a reboot with Dante with current black hair if it was done nicely. But even a remake which changes almost NOTHING in the gameplay or story can be a lot better than what we've got from NT.
Example:
Also, even the characters in DMC4 had a LOT more personality than the characters in DmC.
Character is key to a good story. (See Snowwhite, Peter Pan, Superman or Gollum: "My Preciouss Hairssssstyle!")
The awesome cutscenes where Dante shows his new powers in DMC4? The jawdrop-inducing cutscenes in DMC3? That's what keeps the flame of players' motivation burning and that definitely showed originaltiy and effort..
The "My dick is bigger" statement? That did not.
Okay, seriously, I'd rather see DMC 5, so the same stuff with a continuation of the story. But that's because of the way I escape from the stress of daily life when watching movies or playing games.
I like to lose myself into it. That's why story and character design has more priority to me than gameplay. But I do have expectations for that, too...
A reboot, I'd welcome, too if it's done nicely, but I also accepted the current reboot if NT didn't lack horribly in some key points of making a good one or make one to jerk off to their own image with.
The new Dante became obsessively protective about Kat verbally, with body languageand with other emotionally based signals I'd not like to organize and type right now.
While I know that some heroes do get an enormous sense of care sparked randomly and with moderately important reasons, I think you should remember the scenes where Dante shoots live bullets at Lady and Nero.
Add this to my comparisons of heroes, my undoubtably genius analysis and explanation about how heroes are reincarnated and how some die, the work behind it all and the rest of my long "lacks this, lacks that" bitchin' and then come to a conclusion.
Holy hell, sorry for the long post...
I mostly agree about the old Dante's character, but it could be solved in so many ways.. And I'm not only mad about Ninja Theory's choices and doings, but also disappointed in Capcom's choice for assisting and trusting Ninja Theory in the character design. To me NT was a wrong choice. (And I'm not saying this because I'd like to stab Antoniades' face).
Dante's witty jokes are also shared by a lot of other characters (Alucard, Wolverine), but his red coat and white hair made him unique and he stood out as himself, as Dante. Destroying his uniqueness was what made a lot of people angry.
Dante never had to be badass or emo, he needs to be cool. Also, those witty jokes in the presence of the most dangerous situations is an ingredient which gave us the best characters ever. Spiderman, Alucard, Wolverine, etc.
Is Spiderman BADASS? No, but this specific kind of humor is one of the most important parts of their character which shows that these guys are cool.
Do you know how different Bane from Batman was in the comics? And have you seen the movie? Or Iron Man?
That's a good way to modernize a character.
Remember Prince of Persia? The only reason some people liked the movie was because of the special effects and the theme. Not because of his movie character which clearly lacked an original, unique personality which defines the hero, Prince of Persia.
Remember the Dante from the first DmC trailer? Why did everybody call this guy a drug-addict? What do drug-addicts share? Are they cool? NO.
They didn't put effort into making a unique character. Did they have respect? Antoniades' tried to put his own hairstyle on Dante and gave us the wig as an insult. Homage to the old Dante? No, a cameo from Antoniades self (the logo on the jacket). Professionality was not the case, here.
Will we remember this Dante for a long time (because of how he was in the game and not because of all the drama outside of the game)? We won't. Even the Shepard from Mass Effect without a standard face we will, the black guy from GTA San Andreas we will, the DMC 3 (or even 4) Dante or Nero we will, but DmC Dante from the game, we won't remember. (The Dante from the trailer, we also will. That WAS unique. Not in a good way, though.)
To sum it up, It's hard to make a good character that satisfies everybody, but Ninja Theory f*cked up big time on the character part. Not only Dante. The others as well.
I do agree on that, but they could've come with a better solution.
I would welcome a reboot or accept a reboot with Dante with current black hair if it was done nicely. But even a remake which changes almost NOTHING in the gameplay or story can be a lot better than what we've got from NT.
Example:
That's why I played DMC3 a lot more. But they didn't insult the fans, nor did they put Antoniades' hairstyle on Dante. I accept DMC4 as a filler or as milking. It's not super respectful and does show that Capcom doesn't really care, but it wasn't a slap in the face and clear misusage of characters.
Also, even the characters in DMC4 had a LOT more personality than the characters in DmC.
Character is key to a good story. (See Snowwhite, Peter Pan, Superman or Gollum: "My Preciouss Hairssssstyle!")
The awesome cutscenes where Dante shows his new powers in DMC4? The jawdrop-inducing cutscenes in DMC3? That's what keeps the flame of players' motivation burning and that definitely showed originaltiy and effort..
The "My dick is bigger" statement? That did not.
See aforementioned.
I'd rather see the same stuff from FF7 in a new jacket than DmC.
Okay, seriously, I'd rather see DMC 5, so the same stuff with a continuation of the story. But that's because of the way I escape from the stress of daily life when watching movies or playing games.
I like to lose myself into it. That's why story and character design has more priority to me than gameplay. But I do have expectations for that, too...
A reboot, I'd welcome, too if it's done nicely, but I also accepted the current reboot if NT didn't lack horribly in some key points of making a good one or make one to jerk off to their own image with.
Personally, I find that stupid, too. His hair is great (although not my preferred style/color), it isn't the reason why I called him Edward. The reason for why I called him that is mostly because of his personality, not because of his looks. I won't call his new looks unique and not how I would've liked Dante to be, but it's acceptable to me and I don't have a good reason to say why it shouldn't be for others except for the issues I pointed out about NT being a b*tch. The Devil Trigger is cheesy, though.
Example:
The new Dante became obsessively protective about Kat verbally, with body languageand with other emotionally based signals I'd not like to organize and type right now.
While I know that some heroes do get an enormous sense of care sparked randomly and with moderately important reasons, I think you should remember the scenes where Dante shoots live bullets at Lady and Nero.
Add this to my comparisons of heroes, my undoubtably genius analysis and explanation about how heroes are reincarnated and how some die, the work behind it all and the rest of my long "lacks this, lacks that" bitchin' and then come to a conclusion.
Holy hell, sorry for the long post...
Super Saiyan
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
No, no.. Most suck compared to the veterans, but yeah, I agree with an easier game being needed to introduce the mainstream player to these games (be it hack & slash or just the dmc series).
I mostly agree about the old Dante's character, but it could be solved in so many ways.. And I'm not only mad about Ninja Theory's choices and doings, but also disappointed in Capcom's choice for assisting and trusting Ninja Theory in the character design. To me NT was a wrong choice. (And I'm not saying this because I'd like to stab Antoniades' face)
Nice threat. I'll take you seriously now. (sarcasm).
Dante's witty jokes are also shared by a lot of other characters (Alucard, Wolverine), but his red coat and white hair made him unique and he stood out as himself, as Dante. Destroying his uniqueness was what made a lot of people angry.
I'm gonna leave these three people here
Dante never had to be badass or emo, he needs to be cool. Also, those witty jokes in the presence of the most dangerous situations is an ingredient which gave us the best characters ever. Spiderman, Alucard, Wolverine, etc.
Is Spiderman BADASS? No, but this specific kind of humor is one of the most important parts of their character which shows that these guys are cool.
Emo? I didn't know black hair, and a black coat was emo compared to long hair covering your eyes and a long leather coat. Excuse me then.
Do you know how different Bane from Batman was in the comics? And have you seen the movie? Or Iron Man?
That's a good way to modernize a character.
They can be modernized because they were in modernized universes in the comics that actually MADE sense. And even so people still don't like the Dark Knight series cause it tried to be more realistic.
Remember Prince of Persia? The only reason some people liked the movie was because of the special effects and the theme. Not because of his movie character which clearly lacked an original, unique personality which defines the hero, Prince of Persia.
Yeah, but new Dante actually had old Dante's personality. I still am surprised no one else can look past the outer appearance and actually look deep into the character.
Remember the Dante from the first DmC trailer? Why did everybody call this guy a drug-addict? What do drug-addicts share? Are they cool? NO.
So just because he looks liek a drug addict, he's not cool? May I refer you to Nomak from Blade 2 who was owning Blade's ass in Blade 2?
They didn't put effort into making a unique character. Did they have respect? Antoniades' tried to put his own hairstyle on Dante and gave us the wig as an insult. Homage to the old Dante? No, a cameo from Antoniades self (the logo on the jacket). Professionality was not the case, here.
Wow. Really? You still hold that? He even had to waste his precious time to answer a question about that. That's sad that people make such a big deal as hair style. Like NO ONE ELSE in the world has a hair style like that.
Will we remember this Dante for a long time (because of how he was in the game and not because of all the drama outside of the game)? We won't. Even the Shepard from Mass Effect without a standard face we will, the black guy from GTA San Andreas we will, the DMC 3 (or even 4) Dante or Nero we will, but DmC Dante from the game, we won't remember. (The Dante from the trailer, we also will. That WAS unique. Not in a good way, though.)
Um, I will. I remember his as the best Dante of DMC/DmC history and there's nothing you can do about that.
To sum it up, It's hard to make a good character that satisfies everybody, but Ninja Theory f*cked up big time on the character part. Not only Dante. The others as well.
Says you.
I do agree on that, but there could've come with a better solution I would welcome a reboot or accept a reboot with Dante with current black hair if it was done nicely. But even a remake which changes almost NOTHING in the gameplay or story can be a lot better than what we've got from NT.
No. That's called copy and pasting, and that's what got DMC a reboot in the first place.
That's why I played DMC3 a lot more. But they didn't insult the fans, nor did they put Antoniades' hairstyle on Dante. I accept DMC4 as a filler or as milking. It's not super respectful and does show that Capcom doesn't really care, but it wasn't a slap in the face and clear misusage of characters.
The vid sums up what I have to say on that.
Also, even the characters in DMC4 had a LOT more personality than the characters in DmC.
That was funny!
Character is key to a good story. (See Snowwhite, Peter Pan, Superman or Gollum: "My Preciouss Hairssssstyle!")
Too bad they were actually GOOD characters unlike everyone from DMC4.
The awesome cutscenes where Dante shows his new powers in DMC4? The jawdrop-inducing cutscenes in DMC3? That's what keeps the flame of players' motivation burning and that definitely showed originaltiy and effort..
The "My **** is bigger" statement? That did not.
That wasn't even suppose to be action filled in case you couldn't tell the difference.
See aforementioned.
I'd rather see the same stuff from FF7 in a new jacket than DmC.
Okay, seriously, I'd rather see DMC 5, so the same stuff with a continuation of the story. But that's because of the way I escape from the stress of daily life when watching movies or playing games.
DMC just reminds me of a series not being cared for anymore.
I like to lose myself into it. That's why story and character design has more priority to me than gameplay. But I do have expectations for that, too...
So do I. And DmC did that better then DMC4 did. (DMC3 did it more but only till I actually saw the plot for what it was.)
A reboot, I'd welcome, too if it's done nicely, but I also accepted the current reboot if NT didn't lack horribly in some key points of making a good one or make one to jerk off to their own image with.
Personally, I find that stupid, too. His hair is great (although not my preferred style/color), it isn't the reason why I call him Edward. The reason for why I call him that is mostly because of his personality, not because of his looks.
Seriously? Edward Cullen is NOTHING like new Dante. Edward wouldn't say F*ck you OR be as badass as new Dante. Now you're just being silly.
I won't call his new looks unique and not how I would've liked Dante to be, but it's acceptable to me and I don't have a good reason to say why it shouldn't be for others except for the issues I pointed out about NT being a b*tch. The Devil Trigger is cheesy, though.
NT being a b*tch? You're getting pretty childish now. -_-
Example:
The new Dante became obsessively protective verbally, with body language and with other emotionally based signals I'd not like to organize and type right now, about Kat.
While I know that some heroes do get an enormous sense of care sparked randomly and with moderately important reasons, I think you should remember the scenes where Dante shoots live bullets at Lady and Nero.
Add this to my comparisons of heroes, my undoubtably genius analysis and explanation about how heroes are reincarnated and how some die, the work behind it all and the rest of my long "lacks this, lacks that" bitchin' and then come to a conclusion.
Holy hell, sorry for the long post...
Super Saiyan
Guess I know what kind of person you're gonna be for wasting my time with a post I was gonna disagree with. But at least I had fun making you look like a child craving attention.
Onecrazymonkey1
Well-known Member
Honestly when people start calling the new Dante emo I guess they don't know what it actually means...I don't know how people started using it as an insult for fashion or hair etc. but please stop. I'll just leave this here if anyone wants to know what real emo is.
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Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
And i wasn't aware that having leather coat nor having long hair also makes you an emo.
Tell me, where does that hair cover his eyes here?
Now compare those to this:
Old dante's hair style is a popular hairstyle for asian idols and pretty boys. I'm pretty sure you're aware of this. By that logic most guys in japan, korea, taiwan and other asian countries are emo just because they had that kind of hair style :/
Unlivingsmile
Well-known Member
Ok ppl this is the most immature and ridiculous thing ive ever seen, jesus christ ppl its a game about a fictional character! Sorry og i really dont think martin luther king would have given a sh#t about the changing of a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER im pretty sure he had much more important things on his mind! I mean ppl you all need to just get the f#ck over it already, stop beating it into the ground, yes the old games are great but this is pretty great as well!
O.G.
Dino's Meth supplier
Hi, Tameem!
Oh, you're not Tameem? Don't crave for attention now... It takes a special person to receive my "oh so seriously made" threats Let me quote two lines from a dictionary to you, Mr. Nitpicky #2Dante's witty jokes are also shared by a lot of other characters (Alucard, Wolverine), but his red coat and white hair made him unique and he stood out as himself, as Dante. Destroying his uniqueness was what made a lot of people angry.
I'm gonna leave these three people here
b. Informal: Unusual; extraordinary: spoke with a unique accent.
... unique is widely used as a synonym for "worthy of being considered in a class by itself, extraordinary,
I was typing informally. I hope I didn't offend anyone by it..
By the way, if you didn't understand the above, take a look at these examples of not unique:
Dante never had to be badass or emo, he needs to be cool. Also, those witty jokes in the presence of the most dangerous situations is an ingredient which gave us the best characters ever. Spiderman, Alucard, Wolverine, etc.
Is Spiderman BADASS? No, but this specific kind of humor is one of the most important parts of their character which shows that these guys are cool.
Emo? I didn't know black hair, and a black coat was emo compared to long hair covering your eyes and a long leather coat. Excuse me then.
I see you haven't noticed I wasn't talking about his appearance and didn't understand the way I used a word again.
I recommend reading books.
For this subject I'd like to referring you to Sieghart's message, but as a bonus I'll try to give you a little intro to characteristics and understanding meanings. Pay attention and don't fail class, okay?
Emo is short for emotional
Quote: Emo (slang)/ overly emotional or melodramatic /
Based on this we can safely say that to be emo you need to be more emotionally involved than the average person.
Remember, I didn't say that the Dante from DmC looks emo. Also, I don't think the old one is accountable for being that.
The old Dante's hair is white. I like to think that next to having an emo personality, black (or at least dark colored) hair is one of the main things that need a check-mark before you can characterize the guy as emo. Or else it would be like calling animals which are born from eggs mammals. (I hope you've gone through this in biology class.) Or like calling a fat guy without make-up who is constantly serious a Joker because he doesn´t like the Dark Knight series.
Also, you can't put a check mark on the tattoo and tongue, nose, lip and ear piercing checkbox.
So, I don't think our happy guy who screams "Woohoo!" and "This Party's Getting Started!", is constantly funny, laughs at almost anything, isn't constantly thinking about his problems or looks like it, doesn't try to commit suicide every saturday or looks like it, isn't negative all the time and also has white hair is emo.
People? Your friends? If you have those, don't be acting Mr. Nitpicky all the time or you won't have them for long
Btw, does the DMC 3 or 4 Dante look like he's from the Mesozoic Era?
My problem was he didn't have the uniqueness of Dante and I wasn't talking about his hair or clothes. Are you replying to the right message? Or even the right thread? Hiii... (waving my hand) Read that stuff again. Or in short: The only real problem I had about appearance was with the guy from the trailer, but that wasn't the discussion
If the look was done in a good way, I could very much like it. Nomak was done right. Also, Nomak didn't have Tameem's hairstyle. Altair's outfit from Assassin's creed resembles those as well, but we don't call him a drug addict. Think about the reason for that. But if my usage of the word drug addict wasn't done properly you should blame normal application of informal verbal interaction in social dynamics. I mean, you're right, Tameem... No, wait, you're not Tameem, sorry.
They didn't put effort into making a unique character. Did they have respect? Antoniades' tried to put his own hairstyle on Dante and gave us the wig as an insult. Homage to the old Dante? No, a cameo from Antoniades self (the logo on the jacket). Professionality was not the case, here.
Wow. Really? You still hold that? He even had to waste his precious time to answer a question about that. That's sad that people make such a big deal as hair style. Like NO ONE ELSE in the world has a hair style like that.
Forget what I said about "friends".
Says analytics and logic. Also, being in media and design professionally and having some experience with it whispers it, too, but that wouldn't count too much.
That's correct, but did you notice that you corrected a correct thing to correct?
Rebooting the game wasn't my issue, too.
Uh, yeah... Zoom in on "I played DMC3 a lot more" part, maybe...?
Also, even the characters in DMC4 had a LOT more personality than the characters in DmC.
That was funny!
Kat and Kristen Stewart - Lesbian Scene
Yeah, the DMC 4 characters weren't TOO good. Now imagine how I feel about DmC
Was there anything supposed to be action filled worth mentioning? No.. Because we were watching a soap.
No, there aren't any DMC fans who also may have not liked the reboot and if there were any, there wouldn't be so much of them that Ninja Theory would insult them with a joke, right?
Well, that´s your opinion. Personally, I don't like childish and unrespectful behaviour when I'm the potential customer.
Or I didn't say DmC Dante is exactly like Edward too seriously and tried to point out something that addresses more than what you're summing up.
My personal advice: Exercise social life. That way you get more experience with indirect communication, referencing, figurative language, etc.
You may need to understand it to the degree of being able to understand when it's used before approaching women for the first time, because they tend to use their emotions more and are a bit more indirect when they speak. (Which can lead to more figurative and indirect speech and referencing). You need to be able to remember key elements of the stories they tell and don't start the nitpicking procedure.
That's me slowly getting a little tired of typing. Don't be a b*tch about it
Good for you! Have a kitkat.
Also, I'm wasting your time?
You wasted your own time, socially awkward boy. That post wasn't a reply to your one. Again you want the attention to turn your way. Do you like yourself so much that you need to put yourself in everybody's business? You want everyone to see *you*... You're doing the exact same thing as... wait! Is your first name Tameem, by any chance?And if I look like it, I really don't mind: do you know how much effort it takes to look as good as I do?
O.G.
Dino's Meth supplier
Unlivingsmile... Go back to your corner! :lol:
Yamato666
Angelo-Gehenna
Regardless of the success of this new DmC, I feel it would be too strange to go back to DMC5. Capcom invested a lot in this reboot. I would LOVE to see a DMC5, we all would lol. But at this juncture, I don't think it would do well. It would confuse a lot of people having a DMC5 after a reboot. Because then that means Capcom is reopening that universe again and it would be strange to have two gaming universes occupying the time ya know? Hopefully I made sense 
Dusk Stalker
" Everybody gets a bullet!" -Axton
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