Interview with the Capcom and NT staff: "This is the same Dante - just younger"

[Acedia]

I don't see how your connecting the other DMC games to this one. Sure they say it is the "same Dante, just younger" but that doesn't mean it follows the SAME timeline. They never said that. It could be entirely AU, meaning...Dante can still be Dante...just in a different universe. We won't know until more info is released.

They never said that, you're right.
But what they did say was...
"SAME DANTE, JUST YOUNGER."

If it's the SAME DANTE then it's canon DANTE.

AS you're saying, "Same Dante" could mean different universe.
Then it's NOT the same DANTE.

Canon Dante = Same Dante.

Canon = Prequel
Reboot = Different Universe.

I apologize if I seem very direct and blunt.
But, If they're referring to the original Dante, then it has to be a prequel.

OR they have to ****ING idea what they're talking about.
And they're digging a hole bigger then they did when trying to make sense out of DMC4.

Again apologizes, but to me this is a "SRS BSNS".

 

[Vampi]

They never said that, you're right.
But what they did say was...
"SAME DANTE, JUST YOUNGER."

If it's the SAME DANTE then it's canon DANTE.

AS you're saying, "Same Dante" could mean different universe.
Then it's NOT the same DANTE.

Canon Dante = Same Dante.

Canon = Prequel
Reboot = Different Universe.

I apologize if I seem very direct and blunt.
But, If they're referring to the original Dante, then it has to be a prequel.

OR they have to ****ING idea what they're talking about.
And they're digging a hole bigger then they did when trying to make sense out of DMC4.

Again apologizes, but to me this is a "SRS BSNS".

Listen to this person.

And also...they have no idea what the hell they're talking about. They even make themselves confuse on where this game takes place and who this Dante is.

 

[Richtofen]

I stand my ground on what I said in my earlier post. I have a different way of seeing it and it works. I'm stating that Dante is Dante in my eyes, and this reboot is the same story but told differently. This is just my own opinon, of course.

Prequel doesn't mean a damn to me, nor canon. Capcom released a lot of canons...but they call conflicted with each others timeline. Its consistancy went out the window a long time ago.

 

[VirgilTheart]

They never said that, you're right.
But what they did say was...
"SAME DANTE, JUST YOUNGER."

If it's the SAME DANTE then it's canon DANTE.

AS you're saying, "Same Dante" could mean different universe.
Then it's NOT the same DANTE.

Canon Dante = Same Dante.

Canon = Prequel
Reboot = Different Universe.

I apologize if I seem very direct and blunt.
But, If they're referring to the original Dante, then it has to be a prequel.

OR they have to ****ING idea what they're talking about.
And they're digging a hole bigger then they did when trying to make sense out of DMC4.

Again apologizes, but to me this is a "SRS BSNS".

Or ya know, it could be to get it into the fans' heads that it's Dante and not some wannabe who Dante will shoot in the head and take over from there. Sorry, but I still see folks thinking that's going to happen on YouTube. They could be technically wrong about what they're saying, and just intended to get folks to wake up on the matter that it IS Dante and sadly for most of the fanbase, that isn't going to change.

There's a lot of potential for failure here; I'm not denying that. But it seems to me that there's also a great potential for something quite awesome here too. It's a "SRS BSNS" to me too, I'm just being hopeful. ^_^

 

[heatlancer]

if it's the same dante but just younger than ever, then it means no devil trigger in this game

 

[VirgilTheart]

if it's the same dante but just younger than ever, then it means no devil trigger in this game

Maybe, maybe not. Again, it's a reboot. An origin story, but a reboot nonetheless.

 

[heatlancer]

how is it the "same" dante and a reboot?

if it was the "same" dante but younger than ever he does'nt get a devil trigger, or else it's not the "same" is it?
but then again i think they already messed up the "same" dante by giving him completely different facial structure

 

[VirgilTheart]

how is it the "same" dante and a reboot?

if it was the "same" dante but younger than ever he does'nt get a devil trigger, or else it's not the "same" is it?
but then again i think they already messed up the "same" dante by giving him completely different facial structure

Oh God, not this again. >_<

To be honest, I think Alex Jones' opening words in this interview sum it up rather nicely; "taking elements from the previous games, but revamping it for a new era" Which is a reboot. Dante is Dante. It's a different universe, but he is STILL Dante, and from the sound of it, is still the son of Sparda and probably still has a twin brother named Vergil.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/09/22/dmc-video-interview?objectid=85707

 

[heatlancer]

"same Dante - just younger. We're looking at a retelling of his origin story." --Alex Jones

can you read? "SAME" dante - "JUST" younger
retelling his "ORIGIN"

if this dante is'nt the dante that grows to be the dante that awakens his DT against vergil ontop of the teminigru it is NOT the "SAME" dante, understand?

 

[VirgilTheart]

"same Dante - just younger. We're looking at a retelling of his origin story." --Alex Jones

can you read? "SAME" dante - "JUST" younger
retelling his "ORIGIN"

if this dante is'nt the dante that grows to be the dante that awakens his DT against vergil ontop of the teminigru it is NOT the "SAME" dante, understand?

*facepalm* You guys really take this too literally.

Folks have been coming up with theories up the wahzoo in attempts to convince themselves and everyone else that "DINO" isn't Dante. Like, he's Nero and Kyrie's son named Dante, or that he's just an imposter and Dante will stroll right in, headshot DINO and begin DMC5. So naturally Capcom is going to answer "same Dante". >_< It's Dante, reimagined. He's younger, because it's his origin. They CAN tell his origin in a reboot, after all. Look at Batman Begins and Casino Royale; both are reboots and both are also origin stories.

 

[heatlancer]

*facepalm* You guys really take this too literally.

Folks have been coming up with theories up the wahzoo in attempts to convince themselves and everyone else that "DINO" isn't Dante. Like, he's Nero and Kyrie's son named Dante, or that he's just an imposter and Dante will stroll right in, headshot DINO and begin DMC5. So naturally Capcom is going to answer "same Dante". >_< It's Dante, reimagined. He's younger, because it's his origin. They CAN tell his origin in a reboot, after all. Look at Batman Begins and Casino Royale; both are reboots and both are also origin stories.

right then, so it's not the same dante but then again, not what mr . alex jones says, anyway end discussion

 

[VirgilTheart]

right then, so it's not the same dante

In a sense, but overall, they are right in saying that it's Dante. Again, a lot of folks are attempting to fight off the fact that this IS Dante.

Let me put it to this way; it's a different vision of the same character. Earlier, moses mentioned how Burton's Batman wasn't the same as Nolan's Batman, which was true. However, both were still Batman. Not "BINO" (Batman In Name Only). It's the same here; there's Capcom Japan's Dante and now there's Ninja Theory's Dante. Different, but still the same character.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

Hideaki Itsuno: Of course long-time fans are worried about us handing over such a big title to another company, another development team. But what myself and Eshiro-san want to convey is that people shouldn't be worried or concerned, it's nothing like that.

We've worked with Ninja Theory for a long time in pre-development, and we've seen that they're really talented and they have a lot of know-how, and we know that they're very serious about making this game good.

We've conveyed what we're looking for, and all of the knowledge and experience that we have, and now it's up to them to take it in a new direction. We feel that they have the confidence and talent to do that.

Oh, GOOD! Now I feel much more at ease about this.

We don't really know how the final product will turn out. Nobody does. But we're going into this very positively, and we're looking forward very much to what Ninja Theory can make out of this title. We're looking forward to it, and we hope that the fans will also look forward to it and feel positive.

On second thought...I take back what I said. If HE'S having doubts, how can fans NOT be sceptical about this?

I get what heatlancer is saying and I'm with him 100%. I don't know what the hell I'm going to do, honestly, because if I can't DT to regenerate my health and go crazy on the demons - well, then, I guess I'll just have to run, won't I? Didn't anybody find it easier and cooler to play DMC3 AFTER Dante's devil was awakened?

Anyway. I'm curious to see what they hand out to us. Maybe Vergil will at least look like Vergil, IF he even exists in this new world NT created. And no Nero! All Dante? Forgive me for saying this but HELL YEAH!

 

[Kittn]

Dante is Dante. It's a different universe, but he is STILL Dante.

One of these things can not be true.

You can't use words like re-imaging and then claim its still the same. The definition of the word alone defies it and that's what people are trying to say. Even in computers, when you reimage something you're wiping it clean and starting over. Something you intend to leave the same doesn't need re-imaging. And that is what they've said they've been doing, but now "its the same Dante?"

It's either this guy or this guy.

What I see here is them trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth in order to make fans of both buy this game.

 

[VirgilTheart]

One of these things can not be true.

You can't use words like re-imaging and then claim its still the same. The definition of the word alone defies it and that's what people are trying to say. Even in computers, when you reimage something you're wiping it clean and starting over. Something you intend to leave the same doesn't need re-imaging. And that is what they've said they've been doing, but now "its the same Dante?"

It's either this guy or this guy.

What I see here is them trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth in order to make fans of both buy this game.

*Facepalm* Some just don't get it. It's the same character. Reimagined, but he's still the same character. Or are you going to argue that Nolan's Batman and Burton's Batman aren't the same character? Or that Daniel Craig's Bond isn't the same character as the one played by his predecessors?

 

[Kittn]

Won't argue those things cause I don't really care about em. So I'm not at all familiar enough to say.

But I think you're taking a stance they aren't presenting. In the first question they aren't saying he's an alternate universe Dante.

Eurogamer: Let's be absolutely clear – is this a different Dante, or the same one we know and love?

Alex Jones: We're not going to be definitive about a lot tonight, but one thing that we can be definitive about is that this is the same Dante - just younger. We're looking at a retelling of his origin story.

They are saying he is the same one we've always known. Which is false. Because again, we already know teen Dante.

So either it is a do over - a completely new story in a new universe with a completely new character named Dante. Or its the Dante we knew before. It can not be both, but here they are trying to present it as such.

 

[Cuervo]

*Facepalm* Some just don't get it. It's the same character. Reimagined, but he's still the same character. Or are you going to argue that Nolan's Batman and Burton's Batman aren't the same character? Or that Daniel Craig's Bond isn't the same character as the one played by his predecessors?

These movie examples pretty much sum up what this new Dante is.

 

[Asmodaius]

*Facepalm* Some just don't get it. It's the same character. Reimagined, but he's still the same character. Or are you going to argue that Nolan's Batman and Burton's Batman aren't the same character? Or that Daniel Craig's Bond isn't the same character as the one played by his predecessors?

You can continue to argue with them, they won't listen. They will take up the same issues over and over again. No matter how many times you explain to them, they'll still find something to complain about.

 

[Subject 64432B]

^This is going over and over and over and over and over.....again.
There are fans of new DMC and there are haters,and that´s all.
Haters and fans can´t agree,unless we wait for new pictures and videos.

 

[Asmodaius]

The DmC reboot discussion board should be split in two, so those who dislike it can discuss how much they hate it on one forum, and those who do like it can discuss their expectations on another forum. Just an idea.

We're all fans of Devil May Cry and we all have the right to be here, but every other thread is ending in these mindless discussions.