How would like vergil to look in DmC(if he's in it :D)

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DragonMaster2010 said:
Eva's human. A normal human woman. Of course she died. And whats your point with saying this? (i have never questioned her mortality)

Vergil pretty much ran away after the demons came to their house. (Atleast that's what I've speculated from the manga...even though it's not truely canon.)
speculations...

The libary was in Temi-ni-gru. Humans would die in temi-ni-gru. (Except Lady)
In Manga there is a human along with Arkham in library. The human holds book and Vergil slashes her in half. I am pretty sure it was a library and not inside the tower.

You don't have to see the demons kill humans to know they were killed by them. They were killed after Dante was done with shower, and before he stepped out his office in mission 1.
Actually i do. It´s why STORY is a major part of game so that gamers can see for them self the events and characters.
And with that many humans noone survived except Lady?
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1. My point is Eva died because she was weak. she couldn't do much against them. She got mualed to pieces and that was that.

2.I said it was a speculation. Blame CAPCOM for not saying anything about it.

3.The manga's not that canon to the game. Notice the lines said in the manga are kind of the same from the beginning of Vergil's story. The manga was copying the game with this scene. Plus, this libary was in a regular human-made old-gothic libary, not the same one that was possibly in temi-ni-gru. And if that is a libary in the human world at the beginning of Vergil's story, then that's another thing CAPCOM didn't specify; how they got from a regular libary to the caverns of the tower.

4.Games aren't gonna walk you through the story like a child. Sometimes gamers are suppose to wonder about why no humans are there. And the best expaination people can come up with was that they all were killed. Play the game and you can see blood splattered all over the streets and walls and an empty messed up school bus that looked like it crashed is another indications that humans got massacured.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
1. My point is Eva died because she was weak. she couldn't do much against them. She got mualed to pieces and that was that.

2.I said it was a speculation. Blame CAPCOM for not saying anything about it.
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3.The manga's not that canon to the game. Notice the lines said in the manga are kind of the same from the beginning of Vergil's story. The manga was copying the game with this scene. Plus, this libary was in a regular human-made old-gothic libary, not the same one that was possibly in temi-ni-gru. And if that is a libary in the human world at the beginning of Vergil's story, then that's another thing CAPCOM didn't specify; how they got from a regular libary to the caverns of the tower.

4.Games aren't gonna walk you through the story like a child. Sometimes gamers are suppose to wonder about why no humans are there. And the best expaination people can come up with was that they all were killed. Play the game and you can see blood splattered all over the streets and walls and an empty messed up school bus that looked like it crashed is another indications that humans got massacured.
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Man your making me hit myself in the face.
Not interested to reply back anymore than this.
 
McdD said:
Yes, i did. Because i am certain he is at very least a key member of story of DMC. AT VERY LEAST.

DMC 3 story is not better than DMC1.
It´s most likely alternative story to Vergil´s fall that is consistent to DMC storyline.
The story didn´t do much.
When Vergil was in library it was completely empty and there was no "society" present.

Only the characters involved and no other characters.
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I think i said the wrong thing.

I meant that even thought kamiya was a key player in writing DMC's story, there were other people who had input who could have picked up the slack. Plus they did do a good job with 3 in regards to story and gameplay so they were capable of doing great without Kamiya.

I just liked 3 better because it felt more like a start of the series than 1 did. I just was more interested in the characters than I was with 1.

I felt that the main reason other humans werent in DMC3 was because they didnt feel like wasting money to animate them in order to save costs.
 
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Z218 said:
I think i said the wrong thing.

I meant that even thought kamiya was a key player in writing DMC's story, there were other people who had input who could have picked up the slack. Plus they did do a good job with 3 in regards to story and gameplay so they were capable of doing great without Kamiya.

I just liked 3 better because it felt more like a start of the series than 1 did. I just was more interested in the characters than I was with 1.

I felt that the main reason other humans werent in DMC3 was because they didnt feel like wasting money to animate them in order to save costs.
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No, i think DMC 3 gameplay is very good.

But i don´t think the story is anything much. And as i said earlier that it was less than 20 years since public got PCs, and in such short time so much technological progress have been made.
So comparing 2001 DMC 1 to 2005 DMC 3 is not right.

They proved with DMC 3 that they can make great gameplay without Kamiya.
But with DMC 2 and 3 they didn´t proved anything. They made new characters just like they do with Resident Evil characters.
Lady is such a typical RE character just like Dante is a "leon" based character.

And i haven´t said that Kamiya is the sole source of DMC story, but it seems he is the big boss when it comes to it.

Replying to animation costs, i agree, because i see lazy animation in DMC 3. When Arkham surprises everyone and they all fall off the rising tower.
But what makes does a story consist of, or what makes the story better? One of it is ATMOSPHERE:
"The presence of a world":
society.

That is why despite Blood Omen 2 had average gameplay i looked past it. Because the music, the villagers(npcs) and the gothic dark art style of buildings gave a sense of hopeless world where humans were cows.
And i was fascinated :)
 
McdD said:
Replying to animation costs, i agree, because i see lazy animation in DMC 3. When Arkham surprises everyone and they all fall off the rising tower.
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To be fair, minor animations like that aren't really worth cutting too far into the budget. This is nagging on a high level.
 
Perhaps a new perspective will help?

Ok, lets look at it this way.......
Killing is evil and wrong in most societies. (unless your still living in the dark ages).
But Killing can be justified. Evil Dictator killing off an entire race? Governments starving their own people? In this situation, assasination may be an option. Vergil, on the other hand, is an entirely new case. He kills to complete his goals no matter the cost. Sound familiar? *cough,NSDAP,cough* This sounds very evil to me. Vergil may think he's doing the right thing, but from the victems point of view, he is a terrible menace with more power than you can shake a sword at.

Bottem line? Vergil is a villian. He may be one we root for, but considering how he sacrificed an entire city of people just for a dream he has, I dont think he will pass as a hero anytime soon......just saying........
 
Tiran said:
There is no "between". He's either malevolent or benevolent.
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who says that?? i say he can be in between....and remember the second fight with vergil when lady steppedin he told her that theres no place for little girls and he pushed her away....so if hes completely evil he would have killed her right there and then.....so i say hes in between...:)
 
I'm amazed this argument has continued for so long.

Seriously people, there is no moral justification for Vergil's actions. None whatsoever. Vergil is doing evil for the sake of his own selfish desires. He's not doing it to protect anybody, he's not doing it to save anybody, he's just doing it because he wants to be like his daddy.

Even if he was doing it to protect somebody, that person was more than likely dead due to the demon attack, and that in itself shows Vergil as incompetent and, furthermore, hypocritical for endangering the person he's trying to keep safe.

So we either have Evil Vergil or Dumb and Conflicted Vergil, which one would you rather have?

Now, on- topic, I would really like to see Vergil with some form of rapier or the swords from the DMC 4's Order.
 
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