chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
That's the point, IGN said DMC3 came out in 2008 instead of DMC4. Lol
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meg5493
Praise the Sun!
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Gbraga
Well-known Member
It's not like IGN had credibility to begin with, but it really is ridiculous how they couldn't even bother using google to verify it before posting.
Also, someone who knows a lot about DMC (which they should if they want to tell the fans of the series if it's good or not) would probably know that DMC 3 wasn't released in 08, and would confirm the information instead of just guessing.
I really don't see why people care about reviews and stuff like that, specially on gameplay-heavy titles. They all just rush the game to be the first to post their impressions and just give us shallow impressions full of misinformation.
I had a lot of fun reading RE6's reviews after playing it and seeing the amount of bs they spread about the game's combat, things that are just not true.
Remember the amount of previews saying like HARDCORE PLAYERS CAN REST ASSURED BECAUSE THERE IS JUMP CANCEL AND IT WORKS JUST LIKE BEFORE? They were probably just repeating what Capcom told them, a few seconds with a demo and a lot of players already saw that it was very different (for the worst imo) from the previous games.
I don't know about you, but I think it's rather funny to hear someone talking about the game's combat and then when you look at the footage of that person playing all they do is spam Hacker.
chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
Mhm, glad to clear that up for you.ohhhhhhh
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Dusk Stalker
" Everybody gets a bullet!" -Axton
If this was DMC3, you'd probably think it wasn't.
Two years later if their ever was a DMC 5 if it was in edge Magazine, you would probably think DmC wasn't either.
Breaking8ad
i am the danger, i am the one who knocks!!
There is no such thing as a perfect diamond. There is also no such thing as a perfect game. The original DMC series had a TON of imperfections and mainly gathered a bit of a cult following like that of say...Lost Boys, or Jacob's Ladder, maybe even Ferris Bueler's day off. It was never popular and it mainly catered to an anime-based fan gathering that relied solely on anime related topics and scenarios ("I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR SOUL WITH LIGHT!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone").
So now we have a video game that caters to more than just an anime-based styles. It caters to a younger audience, an 18-30 audience that is easier to relate to now with the way society's views have changed. Even back then when anime fans weren't as extreme, it was harder to sell to that crowd but as soon as the Anime-craze did kick in, they jumped as fast as they could to further themselves in that realm of reality with Devil May Cry 3. Now we have animes like Soul Eater, High School of the Dead, Elfen Lied, etc. That has differently styled characters where Dante just wouldn't fit in anymore especially as a middle-aged man. So what is the solution?
Well they tried to cater to the modern society we know now by putting scantily-clad women in the game with large breasts (did Lady's breasts jump up like 10 sizes or is that just me) and repetition. They hit a crowd that had hit the heights of it's potential. Now we are entering a new era where that just won't cut it anymore. Anime-styled video games aren't hitting the sweet spots of the right crowds and after DMC 4, they realized they need to scrap the old idea (with a lack of a better word) and head back to the drawing board.
So the solution is to try and seek what would be a good theme and style to go from in this society's views and fashions as well as what gameplay styles those players like to play by. Sorry to say to the veteran gamers of DMC, but the old gameplay mechanics have to be changed so that new people to the series will enjoy it. Which is what a LOT of vets don't understand. The original DMC never had styles, it was simplified like this game. I am thinking as Dante matures more, he will learn more and be able to do things that original DMC fans loved.
You can't expect dante to start out knowing everything, when the first DMC game you didn't have all the advancements either. Which doesn't make sense cause he didn't know that stuff in DMC1 but he knew it in the prequel, and was much more skilled than in 3. So now they are trying to make this make sense instead of giving him knowledge magically and taking it away conveniently.
anyways, tl;dr : no such thing as perfection , get over bashing this game everytime something good is said about it and give it a chance before ripping it to shreds like a shark.
So now we have a video game that caters to more than just an anime-based styles. It caters to a younger audience, an 18-30 audience that is easier to relate to now with the way society's views have changed. Even back then when anime fans weren't as extreme, it was harder to sell to that crowd but as soon as the Anime-craze did kick in, they jumped as fast as they could to further themselves in that realm of reality with Devil May Cry 3. Now we have animes like Soul Eater, High School of the Dead, Elfen Lied, etc. That has differently styled characters where Dante just wouldn't fit in anymore especially as a middle-aged man. So what is the solution?
Well they tried to cater to the modern society we know now by putting scantily-clad women in the game with large breasts (did Lady's breasts jump up like 10 sizes or is that just me) and repetition. They hit a crowd that had hit the heights of it's potential. Now we are entering a new era where that just won't cut it anymore. Anime-styled video games aren't hitting the sweet spots of the right crowds and after DMC 4, they realized they need to scrap the old idea (with a lack of a better word) and head back to the drawing board.
So the solution is to try and seek what would be a good theme and style to go from in this society's views and fashions as well as what gameplay styles those players like to play by. Sorry to say to the veteran gamers of DMC, but the old gameplay mechanics have to be changed so that new people to the series will enjoy it. Which is what a LOT of vets don't understand. The original DMC never had styles, it was simplified like this game. I am thinking as Dante matures more, he will learn more and be able to do things that original DMC fans loved.
You can't expect dante to start out knowing everything, when the first DMC game you didn't have all the advancements either. Which doesn't make sense cause he didn't know that stuff in DMC1 but he knew it in the prequel, and was much more skilled than in 3. So now they are trying to make this make sense instead of giving him knowledge magically and taking it away conveniently.
anyways, tl;dr : no such thing as perfection , get over bashing this game everytime something good is said about it and give it a chance before ripping it to shreds like a shark.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
God, i had enough of people saying that DMC is never popular or DMC story sucks because it's anime style.
If it was "never" popular, it would never get 3 sequels and a reboot. It would also never be capcom's third most selling franchise if it was "never" popular. I'm not saying that it was that popular like mario, i'm saying that it's still popular.
As for being based on a anime style? That was never an excuse. Blame the writer for it. What? Are you implying that the dark knight trilogy sucks because it's based on a comic or a cartoon? It was all thanks to nolan and the writing it became a success. So blaming that "Oh this based on anime/cartoon" is never an excuse for a writer's inability for having a good story.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
DMC was Capcom's third highest selling franchise...? I doubt that, with Street Fighter, Mega Man, and Resident Evil all with more acclaim than Devil May Cry.
Now, DMC wasn't some hidden gem or sleeper hit, but it sure wasn't insanely popular. The fanbase for DMC had always been of the smaller sort, and DMC3 and 4 didn't have extravagant launches with lots of fans showing up on Day 1 to get it - at least not in my area.
Now, DMC wasn't some hidden gem or sleeper hit, but it sure wasn't insanely popular. The fanbase for DMC had always been of the smaller sort, and DMC3 and 4 didn't have extravagant launches with lots of fans showing up on Day 1 to get it - at least not in my area.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
Oh yeah, forgot mega man sorry.
That was my point. It wasn't insanely popular but still popular nonetheless. But to say it was "never" popular?
I'm shocked.
Breaking8ad
i am the danger, i am the one who knocks!!
Okay that is like saying Silent Hill was popular because it got sequels and prequels. It is also like saying that Wrong Turn is popular because it has like 5 sequels.
If The Dark Knight was actually cartoon/comic styled, and did not take realism into consideration and all that other stuff than yes, it would suck. It would not be popular because look what happened to Hulk, that movie was heavily comic based and it was such a huge failure that it was saddening to see. Devil May Cry isn't even in the top five of being one of it's best selling franchises as of may 2008, and I don't think the sales have changed much since then.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_Capcom_games
There you have it.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
I'm talking about franchises and Devil may cry is 4th.
http://kotaku.com/5245259/these-are-the-biggest selling-capcom-franchises-of-all-time
This article is on may 2009. Again, i'm saying that devil may cry became popular at one point but not that insanely huge popular.
But saying "never"? Like TwoXacross said, it's like saying that it's some hidden gem or sleeper hit but clearly which is not the case. There are many levels of popularity. Certainly, Devil may cry is not on the top but it's clearly not that unpopular like what you are trying to make it to be.
YamatoWielder
Protector of Mankind
All I know is that Devil May Cry is popular but not as much as Capcom's other big franchises. I really have no idea on why DmC gets so much hate if the Devil May Cry series is insanely popular. Maybe it's because the fans... but whatever.
I disagree on the "never popular" phrase, but you have very good points. Many have complained that DmC doesn't have styles w/o realizing the fact that the first DMC game was also simplified (no styles). And thanks for mentioning Soul Eater, HOTD and Elfen Lied. We see some characters that fight with style, whether it was with swords and guns but you get the drift.
I agree on this principle: it's better to play a game that you can enjoy playing it than play something that people want yet you're not sure if you can enjoy it or not.
ninjaa93
Well-known Member
yeah people do over exaggerate the anime thing its not really based in anime it just had style something the east translate well in there animation DmC can very well be anime itself but people have this crazy japanese spiky hair hair and big sword stereotypes of anime. why discriminate some people say"anime" like a bad thing
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
Technically, in your list Devil May Cry is still fifth with 10 mil - it still didn't beat out the Disney series of the retro consoles with 13 mil as shown in Breaking8ad's list from a year before. So...in a year, DMC only managed to sell 500k more games, and still didn't beat out the insanely popular Disney games they made decades ago >.< And honestly, even if you disregard the Disney games, look at the disparity between DMC's sales and the series above it on the list (Street Fighter), it's almost triple.
To elaborate on what I said before, DMC was never a hidden gem or sleeper hit, but it also was never really all that popular. DMC was actually a fairly obscure brand, and was often overlooked, at least here in the West. It was often disregarded for God of War (which has sold more as a series than DMC as well, almost double), and it's strictly because of DMC's controls, or Japanese-style appeal. Over the course of my GameStop career, I've pitched DMC to many people who ended up uninterested in the themes and concepts, or have brought them back because they didn't like or couldn't get used to the controls.
Just because we love the everlovin' f*ck out of DMC, and we can see its worth, doesn't mean it's popular to everyone else. It's still a great series, but it is really just a mediocre-selling title with an avid fanbase.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
I know all of that. I'm just nitpicking with the statement "Never popular".
I mostly agree with everything breaking said and also because it was discussed to death why devil may cry should stay away from many of it's many anime elements. But granted, there are still minor anime elements in DmC.
Let's just move on this whole popular fiasco.
I mostly agree with everything breaking said and also because it was discussed to death why devil may cry should stay away from many of it's many anime elements. But granted, there are still minor anime elements in DmC.
Let's just move on this whole popular fiasco.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
What do you feel are anime elements in DmC? Just curious.