Does "Hate" mean "Different"?
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majeh116
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I'm not sure I agree with this ether, I can't say it's wrong because you might also be right, but I don't fully agree.
DmC was going on another direction when they first started out. Dante was a more notasably angry charater with a much more dark take on the character. There was medical torture, burning cigarets on demon's eyes, a scrawny protagonist with a grittier air to him, and less smiles and cockiness out of him; he didn't seem like the smiling type.
I actually miss the darker grittier thing they were going for initially. I personally hated old Dante as a character and seeing the new take really excited me. I was sad when they crumbled to the pressure and made him a old Dante clone in a lot of ways.
DmC was going on another direction when they first started out. Dante was a more notasably angry charater with a much more dark take on the character. There was medical torture, burning cigarets on demon's eyes, a scrawny protagonist with a grittier air to him, and less smiles and cockiness out of him; he didn't seem like the smiling type.
I actually miss the darker grittier thing they were going for initially. I personally hated old Dante as a character and seeing the new take really excited me. I was sad when they crumbled to the pressure and made him a old Dante clone in a lot of ways.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
I understand what you mean but i think the reboot was too different or out of place compared to the others so that caused the backlash. The other four still felt part of a whole even if they weren't connected that well but DmC just felt out of place.
I'm not trying to make excuses or say its right or wrong but to provide context.
But would they be able to draw conclusions between the two given DMC has become a face in the crowd since there are a lot of things that are similar to it already.
It would no more be copying it than hellboy, or buffy, or the mortal instruments or legacy of kain or darksiders or Ninja gaiden or Ao no exorsist or no more heroes or shadow of the damned etc.
I think people might have accepted it better as a new ip that grew out of DMC because DMC itself grew out of ideas for RE4.
Something similar to this:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...hty-dog-almost-made-a-new-jak-and-daxter.aspx
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Wait. How is it like Ao no exorsist?
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
the whole "son of a demon/human pairing and fighting against demons because of tragedy' thing and both sets of brothers mimics each others so it felt like a good example.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
The gehenna/Assiah thing too. Both seperate realms and opposite of each other.
It somehow works like the human world/Limbo in this game minus the inception thing.
LeoXCV
Single life for life
Hate meaning different is definite simply because in order to hate something it has to be different from what you like. But in terms of games (Especially sequels) hate can also be derived from something not changing enough and not creating new thrills. *Points at EA for an example*
The point here is what players liked in DMC has been taken away (For example the style system), not only that but moves have still remained from the other games and just re-worked slightly. This does create a sense of making no progress, or even a sense of moving backwards. Although I do like the new DmC so far, it is far from revolutionary and so I can understand why people still don't like the game. It all narrows down to the point some may feel that the series is not making enough new thrills to warrant a purchase. Of course not all may have this view but it is still a view that could take up a lot of the total disliking.
The point here is what players liked in DMC has been taken away (For example the style system), not only that but moves have still remained from the other games and just re-worked slightly. This does create a sense of making no progress, or even a sense of moving backwards. Although I do like the new DmC so far, it is far from revolutionary and so I can understand why people still don't like the game. It all narrows down to the point some may feel that the series is not making enough new thrills to warrant a purchase. Of course not all may have this view but it is still a view that could take up a lot of the total disliking.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
this as well.
i did like the darker direction of the first trailer so it would be cool to see that played with more.
EllDawn
Well-known Member
I think fans of the original series would. You look at games where the story has so many of the same elements, or the battle mechanics, and people will notice. I've seen it happen before. And there's always a group that complains.
MegaMad9
The Mad Man
Actually no, because it looks different than what people are used to, you are sub-conciously prone to hate it, whether it's good or not
As said, I do agree that it is a factor, but it would be too narrowminded to think it that's all there is to it.
MegaMad9
The Mad Man
No, it's really just that. Read this book called "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell. We are sub-conciously prone to hate things that are radically different to what we are used to, even if they are beneficial to us
Dusk Stalker
" Everybody gets a bullet!" -Axton
From what I am reading, You got to look at it from the Sane ones POV who tried the demo and have stated calmly their reasons before and after the demo. Not the insane ones who go "It sucks..all loverz of this game can go DIEZ!!!", Sane and clear minded ones ( And yes their rare) who have looked past the flesh of the game, to see their take on why they hate it.
Vergil'sBitch
I am Nero's Mom & Obsessed fan girl
I don't think it's about the hair anymore.
I just think those that truly and utterly hate it are the ones that now are just determined to keep that mind set no matter what they see or hear about it.
I just think those that truly and utterly hate it are the ones that now are just determined to keep that mind set no matter what they see or hear about it.
EllDawn
Well-known Member
It's not just with games, you know. If you want to see more irrational hate because of something being different, there's how people treat a person who is different whether it be their appearance or personality. A lot of times they're met with wariness or hostility. The people who do the attacking often don't know the person, and don't try.
With movies, you get a re-make and people immediately assume it's crap because it is a re-make. Some will give it a chance, others will reject it. This probably isn't the best movie to mention, but it's the main one I can think of. I Spit On Your Grave. The original got some pretty bad reviews, anyway. It was probably the first and only rape-revenge film that didn't try making it easy for the viewer. It did gather a following, though. The re-make was hated. I, myself, preferred the re-make because of what she did for revenge. It made more sense to me than in the original. The fans, from what I remember, didn't give the re-make much of a chance.
It happens with most anything that's different. Mall Rats was hated when it came to theaters, but became quite a hit when it was released on video. Look up any movie that started a new genre. The first one was likely a flop until people got used to the idea, then the movies made afterward got a lot of attention.
With movies, you get a re-make and people immediately assume it's crap because it is a re-make. Some will give it a chance, others will reject it. This probably isn't the best movie to mention, but it's the main one I can think of. I Spit On Your Grave. The original got some pretty bad reviews, anyway. It was probably the first and only rape-revenge film that didn't try making it easy for the viewer. It did gather a following, though. The re-make was hated. I, myself, preferred the re-make because of what she did for revenge. It made more sense to me than in the original. The fans, from what I remember, didn't give the re-make much of a chance.
It happens with most anything that's different. Mall Rats was hated when it came to theaters, but became quite a hit when it was released on video. Look up any movie that started a new genre. The first one was likely a flop until people got used to the idea, then the movies made afterward got a lot of attention.
MegaMad9
The Mad Man
It's not just one book about it actually, it's about dozens of stories of real life events that happened and why people thought that way about it. The book references dozens of studies that were conducted as well. I can't remember it off of the top of my head, but he called it "thin-slicing". Feel free to google it
Paexie
Well-known Member
Tell that to other subjects like racism. It's really as simple as that man. It's why so many people hate bronies. They challenge the social norm. Different = hate