DmC Overhype

[Dusk Stalker]

I keep seeing the most glowing reviews of this game without so much as one look at balancing the cons and the pros , the only thing it is showing is its over hype and over exaggeration it is showing when it is previewed or shown. Do you guys think that the over hype from the Pro DmC fans and Pro DmC previewers maybe its downfall?

 

[chocolateghost79]

I just think people are actually enjoying the game.

 

[Dusk Stalker]

I just think people are actually enjoying the game.

I know they enjoy it, but the fact that they maybe enjoying it a bit 'too' or giving it glowing reviews that some tend to exaggerate about it.

 

[JoshMoshes]

I don't think so. DmC has enough negative attention to balance it out. It actually does play well as I tried it myself. Although I haven't played as much as these previewers have been lately, I have confidence that t NT has done a swell job with it as a whole game. The demo will surely test the hype we have so far (hopefully increase it). I'm pretty sure Capcom knows hype alone for a title like this won't end well without a demo before its release two months away.

 

[Dusk Stalker]

I don't think so. DmC has enough negative attention to balance it out. It actually does play well as I tried it myself. Although I haven't played as much as these previewers have been lately, I have confidence that t NT has done a swell job with it as a whole game. The demo will surely test the hype we have so far (hopefully increase it). I'm pretty sure Capcom knows hype alone for a title like this won't end well without a demo before its release two months away.

What I am trying to say is this because curiosity will play in effect 100%, is the fact maybe old fans who haven't nitpicked who kept hearing excellent reviews and decided to give it a try maybe.....disappointed. If they play the demo itself and finish it, they maybe feel that the fan who kept telling them to play it or the review that kept telling them to play it because it was hard or fast maybe a little exaggerated.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

I reiterate what I said on the subject in another thread; maybe a lot of what people keep saying are "cons" of the game are really just nitpicking. These people giving it "glowing reviews" have also had ample time with the most complete and updated build of the game, whereas everyone else has gotten rushed playtime on out-of-date demos on the showfloor from several builds ago.

I actually watched a GameTrailers Invisible Walls where they talked about DmC, and they mentioned the lack of a Hard Lock being a bit troublesome, but overall the game was fun, and played really well.

I think the main thing comes back to how much journalists are viewing the game on its own merits and faults, and not directly in comparison to the classic series.

Any game can be overhyped, however, but it all comes down to whether you feel reviewers' thoughts are genuine or not.

Right now these are all previews, too. No actual reviews will be out until the game's release

 

[Dusk Stalker]

I reiterate what I said on the subject in another thread; maybe a lot of what people keep saying are "cons" of the game are really just nitpicking. These people giving it "glowing reviews" have also had ample time with the most complete and updated build of the game, whereas everyone else has gotten rushed playtime on out-of-date demos on the showfloor from several builds ago.

I actually watched a GameTrailers Invisible Walls where they talked about DmC, and they mentioned the lack of a Hard Lock being a bit troublesome, but overall the game was fun, and played really well.

I think the main thing comes back to how much journalists are viewing the game on its own merits and faults, and not directly in comparison to the classic series.

Any game can be overhyped, however, but it all comes down to whether you feel reviewers' thoughts are genuine or not.

Right now these are all previews, too. No actual reviews will be out until the game's release

I can see what you are trying to say, but it comes down to the fans and previewers, some arent clear cut genuine, I think half aren't clear cut genuine. over hype is a double edged sword its fifty-fifty.

 

[chocolateghost79]

I can see what you are trying to say, but it comes down to the fans and previewers over hype is a double edged sword.

One example of one bad overhype Duke Nukem Forever.(In my opinion)

Why do you view the positive things that reviewers say as overhype though?
I mean they go into detail about what they like in the game.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

What I am trying to say is this because curiosity will play in effect 100%, is the fact maybe old fans who haven't nitpicked who kept hearing excellent reviews and decided to give it a try maybe.....disappointed. If they play the demo itself and finish it, they maybe feel that the fan who kept telling them to play it or the review that kept telling them to play it because it was hard or fast maybe a little exaggerated.

They could be exaggerations, or they could be true. If the majority of people who have played the full game have positive things to say, then either they're all drinking the same Kool-Aid, or there is merit to what their praise.

Overhype itself also falls on the individual. Everything needs to be taken into consideration, and for those who only listen to "glowing praise" or "abject criticism" alike will never come to their own conclusion. Some people miss out on superb games because they listen to peoples' overt criticism, and some people are less-than-pleased by games because they listened to praise. It sorta goes both ways.

 

[788Masri]

I keep seeing the most glowing reviews of this game without so much as one look at balancing the cons and the pros , the only thing it is showing is its over hype and over exaggeration it is showing when it is reviewed or shown. Do you guys think that the over hype from the Pro DmC fans and Pro DmC reviewers maybe its downfall?

hightened praise can be an issue. some games are defeated because of the level of hype they receive. notable titles include most of the COD games. which stand alone are not bad games, but due to the high expectations of past instalments have made some of them plain ol hated. although other games eg skyrim received all this hyp and more and met those expectations and if not surpassed them.

now lets look at the other side of this story. games that have been despised since day one. have had people outraged and made them send threats to its developers about it. all this before it was even released....oh wait no because that doesnt happen. the level of backlash theyve had to put up with is unreal. people are actually looking for flaws in every last detail of the game. "oh look hes got a hat therefore the game sux". how often. now honestly listen here. how often have we heard criticism from press before the GAME HAS BEEN RELEASED! whats this these people said the game is good?? they obviously must have been paid on the side. these kind of people are just looking for something to hate, they dont care about it at all and just want to have a lot of people agree with them. and when the press and critics dont they blame them WITH the developers. its one thing to bash a game after its out and an entire other thing to do BEFORE IT IS RELEASED!!!!

phew...sorry bou that had to vent

 

[Dusk Stalker]

Why do you view the positive things that reviewers say as overhype though?
I mean they go into detail about what they like in the game.

Because their is no balance, all positive without nitpicking. Their are some genuine ones out their that give an honest review without nitpicking, but their are ones out their are to one sided in their previews without looking at the bones behind the flesh of the game..

 

[JoshMoshes]

What I am trying to say is this because curiosity will play in effect 100%, is the fact maybe old fans who haven't nitpicked who kept hearing excellent reviews and decided to give it a try maybe.....disappointed. If they play the demo itself and finish it, they maybe feel that the fan who kept telling them to play it or the review that kept telling them to play it because it was hard or fast maybe a little exaggerated.

To be quite honest, I don't see that many "Pro" DmC previews besides GinxTV and a few non popular UK based websites. I think people are looking for negatives and skepticism too much because of what DmC is. I don't consider myself blind by positive bias but I'm pretty sure a majority have looked at this game objectively in terms of what is good and what is to question. Gametrailers, Gamespot, IGN (sort of), and a few other sites have given it praise but its been backed up with their experiences. If you're a fan who doesn't really trust mainstream or previewer hype, there isn't much I could tell you.

Resident Evil 6 didn't hype me as much and they marketed the hell out of that game. I forced myself to play the demo 8 times and I still hated it every time. I don't think its a matter of hype but whether you're actually open up to enjoying it or not.

 

[Dusk Stalker]

To be quite honest, I don't see that many "Pro" DmC previews besides GinxTV and a few non popular UK based websites. I think people are looking for negatives and skepticism too much because of what DmC is. I don't consider myself blind by positive bias but I'm pretty sure a majority have looked at this game objectively in terms of what is good and what is to question. Gametrailers, Gamespot, IGN (sort of), and a few other sites have given it praise but its been backed up with their experiences. If you're a fan who doesn't really trust mainstream or previewer hype, there isn't much I could tell you.

Resident Evil 6 didn't hype me as much and they marketed the hell out of that game. I forced myself to play the demo 8 times and I still hated it every time. I don't think its a matter of hype but whether you're actually open up to enjoying it or not.

Game Informer has given it loads of praise.
like I am saying, its a double edged sword, it can go either ways.

 

[Grey-Frog]

But... that's what previews are. They are hype vehicles. There can be negative previews out there on some sites, but almost all previews for almost all games are glowing examples of what the game does right.

It's very rare for any game site or company to do a preview of any game and not make it sound good. They aren't giving DmC glowing previews because they aren't balancing the pros and cons, they're giving it glowing previews because previews are almost always meant to hype the game. It would be unprofessional to do a preview for a game and start hating on it's downfalls without having the full game. Talking about what it does wrong and what cons it has is what a full review is for.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

But is this praise undue? Is it getting more praise than any other game coming out right now? It's not like journalists are saying "GAIZ OMG DmC GAYUM UVDUH YEEEEEEEEEEER~" or anything like that. They're praising the game on its own merits for the things it does well. It has an interesting story, it has some crazy environment designs, it has slick, responsive combat. Those are things worth praising, I'd think :x

 

[chocolateghost79]

Because their is no balance, all positive without nitpicking. Their are some genuine ones out their that give an honest review without nitpicking, but their are ones out their are to one sided in their previews without looking at the bones behind the flesh of the game..

Well previews are meant to show the more positive things, once reviews come out there will be more cons to be shown. However there might not be that many cons which is why reviewers aren't mentioning them as much as the pros.

 

[JoshMoshes]

Because their is no balance, all positive without nitpicking. Their are some genuine ones out their that give an honest review without nitpicking, but their are ones out their are to one sided in their previews without looking at the bones behind the flesh of the game..

I think you're getting preview and review a little mixed up. Previews hardly ever nitpick at small things, especially since the game is still underdevelopment. Reviews are when all the dogs are let out and a sense of "balance" is made clearer about the games positives and flaws.

If you want a "Balanced" preview, i recommend just watching the videos of the game play yourself. No one else is going to nitpick the things you find off putting in a game that hasn't even released yet. Previews mostly serve to merit the positive workings of their progress to the final build and question whats to come.

 

[scionicspectre]

I do think much of the praise being had on our part and the reviewers' is based on Ninja Theory having done a fairly good job so far, not so much on the details of the game itself. Of course, it's just a game, and it's probably going to be pretty good. But I think the hype is more about welcoming a new baby into the videogame world, and many of us will celebrate its release for the sake of it, and we'll come back to it later with a more critical eye to pick apart what's left.

I think people are just sick of all the buzzkills that have followed this game throughout its production, and they don't want to hear any more irrational B.S. until the game's actually out. Of course, irrational praise is just as bad, but I think we have been given enough content to make some basic judgements on the quality of the game.

I'm looking forward to it, and seeing how the gameplay holds up against my personal standards- it certainly looks interesting, challenging, and fun.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Because their is no balance, all positive without nitpicking. Their are some genuine ones out their that give an honest review without nitpicking, but their are ones out their are to one sided in their previews without looking at the bones behind the flesh of the game..

You know that nit-picking is considered a bad thing, right? It's taking something small nearly benign, and trying to turn it into a glaring fault. That's why people say many "anti-DmC" arguments are nitpicking, because they're faulting the game on things that really aren't that big of a deal at all, like Dante's swearing, or his hair, or plot points.

If a gaming journalist nitpicked a game, they'd get a lot of flak for it. Think about it; what if a review of the game came out, and they said it was okay, but spent a lot of time on Dante's hair, faulting the game as a whole because of this one difference, or spending a lot of time talking about the locked 30fps versus the classic's 60fps, faulting the game entirely on a few milliseconds of response time.

The same can be said for any other game. Kratos is too angry, Playstation All-Stars isn't like Smash enough, Halo nerfed a gun, Tekken didn't have my favorite costume. This new Dante isn't like the old one.

"Nitpicking is bad, mmm'kay?"

 

[Dusk Stalker]

I think you're getting preview and review a little mixed up. Previews hardly ever nitpick at small things, especially since the game is still underdevelopment. Reviews are when all the dogs are let out and a sense of "balance" is made clearer about the games positives and flaws.

If you want a "Balanced" preview, i recommend just watching the videos of the game play yourself. No one else is going to nitpick the things you find off putting in a game that hasn't even released yet. Previews mostly serve to merit the positive workings of their progress to the final build and question whats to come.

I did watch Game play and i take back what I said about the mix up their. Too much praise on a preview can sometimes turn people away,I am not saying it happens all the time 100 %, but sometimes it can.

I have doubts the game will succeed, I am waiting for the demo though.

I know Nitpicking is bad lol but sometimes, some of the Pro DmC fans do it.