DmC, my thoughts on the reboot

[MephistoCarnival]

Now that we talk about the story

I still find hypocritical of some OG fans to call DmC on it's "Bad" (LOL...you guys have NO IDEA what is bad) story, and then they completely ignore the original's BS of a chronology because "kombat iz teh betTah2!!11!"

If you think DmC's plot is badly done objectivelu...then you must absolutely despise the orginal script...like really

You can say that you "prefer" or "Like more" the original story because it was funny, laidback and cool. And you can also say that DmC's darker, more "modern" story wasn't your cup tea. Sure, it's your opinion.

But then someone (Usually with a DMC3 Dante Avatar, no matter the forum)comes along with" LULZ Shakespearean writting!!" while criticizing plot holes,story,development like expert critics and then when asked about...I dunno Trish barging into the shop, trying to beat the **** out of Dante and then he magically trusts her after she says "Sorry" they go like "but DUUUUDE at least that was cool!" like the fanboys they actually are, no analisys, no expert literature dissection...nope, it was cool

By the way, THIS is bad:Bad gameplay,bad reboot,bad game,bad story...just BAD BAD BAD

I think people are criticizing the reboot comparing on how a DMC really looked.In DMC standards,not in overall game standards.
They expected a game that is at least,a true DMC but with a different perspective. Get it? If they were two separate games then yes,but people were expecting a game that has at least a DMC feeling to it.

 

[MephistoCarnival]

DMC3 had one of the best gaming soundtracks.Just read the lyrics.Though,I wanted to hear more of it,thank god at the end of DMC3 you get to hear the whole soundtrack.
To visuals.
I loved Limbo.
The bad. I found those flashy lights attacks to be so... pointless.Do you think by adding more flashiness and awful colors that make your eyes hurt you make it better? And add more 'badassery' to the attacks?
Story.
I quite agree with you.
I knew from the first time they would make Vergil betray Dante and such.I was expecting that.You don't think they would have thrown a party after killing Mundus and everybody is happy?
Even though I found the scene where Vergil shows his true intentions a little bit too forced.I mean one moment they are all at peace,and then Vergil makes that statement like 'who will anyway hear me out' and things go really dramatic.Where did all the brotherly love go?I absolutely hate the fact they made Vergil so weak,using his brother,making blind impressions of love,but hiding your true intentions after getting what you want,because being rich isn't enough.I actually feel bad for Dante.

 

[Demi-fiend]

Well, Dante was gonna find out anyway so, might as well state your intentions there. He's also trying again with his demonic army now, so there's that, as well.

 

[MephistoCarnival]

Well, Dante was gonna find out anyway so, might as well state your intentions there. He's also trying again with his demonic army now, so there's that, as well.

You're right.I just thought it was a little bit too quick and rushed.

 

[Demi-fiend]

You're right.I just thought it was a little bit too quick and rushed.

True, they should have slowed it down a little. But I think they ran out of time. How would you have done it?

Personally, I would have had Vergil make his declaration in the middle of the game, then have the brothers agree that they'll "discuss it later" after defeating Mundus. Then perhaps, the duel would have been more believable.

 

[Kam]

Now that we talk about the story

I still find hypocritical of some OG fans to call DmC on it's "Bad" (LOL...you guys have NO IDEA what is bad) story, and then they completely ignore the original's BS of a chronology because "kombat iz teh betTah2!!11!"

If you think DmC's plot is badly done objectivelu...then you must absolutely despise the orginal script...like really

You can say that you "prefer" or "Like more" the original story because it was funny, laidback and cool. And you can also say that DmC's darker, more "modern" story wasn't your cup tea. Sure, it's your opinion.

But then someone (Usually with a DMC3 Dante Avatar, no matter the forum)comes along with" LULZ Shakespearean writting!!" while criticizing plot holes,story,development like expert critics and then when asked about...I dunno Trish barging into the shop, trying to beat the **** out of Dante and then he magically trusts her after she says "Sorry" they go like "but DUUUUDE at least that was cool!" like the fanboys they actually are, no analisys, no expert literature dissection...nope, it was cool

By the way, THIS is bad:Bad gameplay,bad reboot,bad game,bad story...just BAD BAD BAD

classic DMC actually had a pretty good story, unfortunately the only way to actually experience the story was to stop playing the game, comb through the in-game encyclopedia, google every in-game reference that popped up, and then read the novel to fill in the gaps.

Great story, horrendous storytelling. I gave DMC3 the same story score that I game DmC because a great story is pointless if you don't tell it to anyone

 

[TWOxACROSS]

I could if there was a good reason for that scene. But there isn´t, so no

It was a inappropriate scene considering how media antagonized DMC fans who were frustrated over the reboot, and i highly doubt majority of fans found that scene funny.

People trivialized it from word Go back in 2010 when they complained about his hair not being white, when they didn't pay attention enough to the fact that there was a white patch. Back then, very little was known about the game, virtually nothing, and people bitched about hair color. Should the media have let that go, and listened to the greater problems? Yes!

However, the fact that we can reach back in time and pull that utterly trivial vitriol out of the aether to pinpoint the start of asinine complaints about DmC, it shows the start of a really childish and just plain idiotic trend.

It was huge in-universe joke, because ironically Dante would end up with hair strikingly similar to what he said he'd never have "in a million years." It's a joke that has us wait the full game before getting the punchline.

It's also just about having a f#cking sense of goddamn humor, especially for NT when they were blasted with sh!t so long ago just for changing a character's hair color, which from the start they obviously had intended to change to white through the narrative.

So DmC has an unapologetic sense of humor at times. If it was a jab, it was a damn good one, because no one in their right mind should have gotten that bent out of shape over hair color when they had no other information available, or, more to the fact, didn't even pay attention to what they were complaining about in the first place.

 

[Demi-fiend]

If it was a jab, it was a damn good one, because no one in their right mind should have gotten that bent out of shape over hair color when they had no other information available, or, more to the fact, didn't even pay attention to what they were complaining about in the first place.

Yeah... but then who said that IncarnatedDemon is in her right mind in the first place? :ermm:

Edit:

Great story, horrendous storytelling. I gave DMC3 the same story score that I game DmC because a great story is pointless if you don't tell it to anyone

Pretty much this. It's the reason why I liked the original story only to a certain degree.

The reason I didn't like DmC's story was because I thought it could have been better written. The main concept was good, but the execution left a lot to be desired.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

People trivialized it from word Go back in 2010 when they complained about his hair not being white, when they didn't pay attention enough to the fact that there was a white patch. Back then, very little was known about the game, virtually nothing, and people bitched about hair color. Should the media have let that go, and listened to the greater problems? Yes!

Has it occured to u that maybe people werent simply complaining about a hair colour but the significance of it?

It was huge in-universe joke, because ironically Dante would end up with hair strikingly similar to what he said he'd never have "in a million years." It's a joke that has us wait the full game before getting the punchline.

What a joke.

It's also just about having a f#cking sense of goddamn humor, especially for NT when they were blasted with sh!t so long ago just for changing a character's hair color, which from the start they obviously had intended to change to white through the narrative.

I have sense of humor, and i can tell you that "joke" isnt funny.
As for white hair, again your doing what gaming media did, your saying people are complaining about simply a hair colour change when people in reality was more angry at what it signified : a different character...a rebooted character.
So in actuality people were complaining about the character not being the same one. Which isn´t a trival thing, especially this context.

So DmC has an unapologetic sense of humor at times. If it was a jab, it was a damn good one, because no one in their right mind should have gotten that bent out of shape over hair color when they had no other information available, or, more to the fact, didn't even pay attention to what they were complaining about in the first place.

I hate it to break it to you but few gamers become angry over change of hair colour or style.
Despite Bayonetta going from long beautiful hair to short hair you dont see me or other Bayo fans make a uproar about this change.

So how about you examine why people complained about white hair to understand the bigger picture, because when you do...then you´ll realize most people were angry at the change of character (from a original to a reboot).
This is further shown to you by people calling NTDante for Donte, Dino and Etnad.
All of the terms used to separate the two characters (NTDante and Dante).


So how about you and other people like you who view these white hair complaints try to think for a second why people are complaining about it.
Is it because they hate black hair? I doubt it.
Even Nero received a small dose of dislike when he was the main character of DMC 4.

Dante from DMC has white hair because he was born with it. Anyone claiming to be fan of this character should know this.
So a fan who knows Dante has white hair from birth sees a character that says he is Dante but has black hair
Well it means hes not the same character.

But whatever keep spinning that "People complain about black hair because they hate black hair". Because thats just a lie.

 

[Demi-fiend]

Here it comes. Honestly, there's no end to this.

 

[mrrandomlulz]

Here it comes. Honestly, there's no end to this.

It can end

If you take the red pill, you have the power to end it on your own over time
If you take the blue pill, it'll end immediately, but the wounds will never recover

CHOOSE!

 

[Chancey289]

It can end

If you take the red pill, it'll end immediately, but the wounds will never recover
If you take the blue pill, you have the power to end it on your own over time

CHOOSE!

 

[Demi-fiend]

It can end

If you take the red pill, it'll end immediately, but the wounds will never recover
If you take the blue pill, you have the power to end it on your own over time

CHOOSE!

Aren't the pills supposed to be in the opposite roles (the blue pill is the one that wakes you up)?

Either way, I'll take the pill that let's me have the power to end it on my own over time. I can be patient.

(I'll let you edit the post so that you can reverse the roles of the pills)

cricket nonsense

And that was uncalled for. The pill thing wasn't a bad joke, actually.

 

[Dusk Stalker]

DMC3 had one of the best gaming soundtracks.Just read the lyrics.Though,I wanted to hear more of it,thank god at the end of DMC3 you get to hear the whole soundtrack.
To visuals.
I loved Limbo.
The bad. I found those flashy lights attacks to be so... pointless.Do you think by adding more flashiness and awful colors that make your eyes hurt you make it better? And add more 'badassery' to the attacks?
Story.
I quite agree with you.
I knew from the first time they would make Vergil betray Dante and such.I was expecting that.You don't think they would have thrown a party after killing Mundus and everybody is happy?
Even though I found the scene where Vergil shows his true intentions a little bit too forced.I mean one moment they are all at peace,and then Vergil makes that statement like 'who will anyway hear me out' and things go really dramatic.Where did all the brotherly love go?I absolutely hate the fact they made Vergil so weak,using his brother,making blind impressions of love,but hiding your true intentions after getting what you want,because being rich isn't enough.I actually feel bad for Dante.

The story was almost in its own shade, a copy of DMC 3,not all out copy but a shade which made it DMC 3 esque in its own point and view.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

words words wordy-word word-type words

You know what? You're right.

However, people were only vocal about the actual hair color, and the greater b!tching about how the game didn't need this or that, and how Ninja Theory ruined Devil May Cry three years before the game ever came out. People didn't give it a chance. They told everyone outright that this wasn't the classic DMC, and that Dante's hair in this had its own significance - because it was such a big part of the classic Dante. All you heard at the time of the 2010 release was "his hair isn't the right color." I know, I was there. I saw all those stupid comments. Very few people at the time actually succinctly voiced what you say about " the greater significance of the change," and "the hair!" dominated comment sections, and NT was taken aback by all the ignorance, over both the hair not being right (despite them saying it had significance, and a patch of white on his crown), and the complete and utter reluctance to even accept something different, that has no bearing on the classics. Then, for the better part of three years they dealt with all that vitriol, and even the succinct complaints had fangs because the people who made those complaints wanted their words to change the very core of something that wouldn't change.

It's like complaining that the sun is too bright, and wanting your complaints to change its luminosity. It's beyond your control, and you have little right to expect your words to change its fundamental nature. People complained about how DmC was different, when that was the entire point of DmC - to be. F#cking. Different.

But here's the million dollar question for you - if every person against DmC consistently says "It's not about the hair!" then why in the hell did people get so bent out of shape over a f#cking wig joke? I'd imagine because, as evidenced many times, people slighted DmC for everything they could twist into being upset over :/

Here's the really big part - the absolutely HUGE thing that people overlook - people specifically look at it as "the wig joke" there and then in Mission 1, get their panties all wadded up, and go on a tirade about once again how it's a slight "against the fans." They ignore all significance the whole goddamn thing has specifically to DmC, and only DmC, not the fans, not the backlash, not anything but context within that one, singular game. Ninja Theory made the white hair significant for Dante, as something he grows into as he wrests control of his potential, and by becoming this "savior of humanity." Dante bears this iconic hair color that he jokingly says he'd never have "in a million years" because he doesn't like the look, because at the beginning of the game he is the reluctant hero who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Then, throughout the course of the game, we see Dante grow not just as a Nephilim, but as a person, and by the end of the game he's sporting the iconic Dante hair color, with an attitude to match his classic counterpart - compassion with a side of wit. Dante becoming something akin to the classic Dante was DmC's journey. All he was missing was a red coat.

The "wig joke" in Mission 1 was just the set-up. We don't get the punchline until the very end.

So yeah. There's that. You can keep complaining about a joke you didn't get. Have fun with that aneurysm.

Chow out~​

 

[Chancey289]

You know what? You're right.

However, people were only vocal about the actual hair color, and the greater b!tching about how the game didn't need this or that, and how Ninja Theory ruined Devil May Cry three years before the game ever came out. People didn't give it a chance. They told everyone outright that this wasn't the classic DMC, and that Dante's hair in this had its own significance - because it was such a big part of the classic Dante. All you heard at the time of the 2010 release was "his hair isn't the right color." I know, I was there. I saw all those stupid comments. Very few people at the time actually succinctly voiced what you say about " the greater significance of the change," and "the hair!" dominated comment sections, and NT was taken aback by all the ignorance, over both the hair not being right (despite them saying it had significance, and a patch of white on his crown), and the complete and utter reluctance to even accept something different, that has no bearing on the classics. Then, for the better part of three years they dealt with all that vitriol, and even the succinct complaints had fangs because the people who made those complaints wanted their words to change the very core of something that wouldn't change.

It's like complaining that the sun is too bright, and wanting your complaints to change its luminosity. It's beyond your control, and you have little right to expect your words to change its fundamental nature. People complained about how DmC was different, when that was the entire point of DmC - to be. F#cking. Different.

But here's the million dollar question for you - if every person against DmC consistently says "It's not about the hair!" then why in the hell did people get so bent out of shape over a f#cking wig joke? I'd imagine because, as evidenced many times, people slighted DmC for everything they could twist into being upset over :/

Here's the really big part - the absolutely HUGE thing that people overlook - people specifically look at it as "the wig joke" there and then in Mission 1, get their panties all wadded up, and go on a tirade about once again how it's a slight "against the fans." They ignore all significance the whole goddamn thing has specifically to DmC, and only DmC, not the fans, not the backlash, not anything but context within that one, singular game. Ninja Theory made the white hair significant for Dante, as something he grows into as he wrests control of his potential, and by becoming this "savior of humanity." Dante bears this iconic hair color that he jokingly says he'd never have "in a million years" because he doesn't like the look, because at the beginning of the game he is the reluctant hero who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Then, throughout the course of the game, we see Dante grow not just as a Nephilim, but as a person, and by the end of the game he's sporting the iconic Dante hair color, with an attitude to match his classic counterpart - compassion with a side of wit. Dante becoming something akin to the classic Dante was DmC's journey. All he was missing was a red coat.

The "wig joke" in Mission 1 was just the set-up. We don't get the punchline until the very end.

So yeah. There's that. You can keep complaining about a joke you didn't get. Have fun with that aneurysm.

Chow out~​

 

[Alittleacorn]

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Dante was destined to get white hair in the end, he wouldn't be Dante without it. It symbolises the evolution of this character too with the trials he had to face and into what they made him become. From the rebel who didn't give a ****, to the man who stood up to fight the demon king and wake mankind from their sleep.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Dante was destined to get white hair in the end, he wouldn't be Dante without it. It symbolises the evolution of this character too with the trials he had to face and into what they made him become. From the rebel who didn't give a ****, to the man who stood up to fight the demon king and wake mankind from their sleep.

EXACTLY
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[TerrorA]

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EXACTLY​

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What's with the Egg?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Egg Zack Lee = "Exactly"