CheeseKao
Lord Cheesington
All right then. Thanks for the video. It was quite informative. I can't believe that someone had the gall to put such an offensive sign over games simply because they were developed overseas.
DmC: A current haters point of view in the east.
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chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
Agreed. Give that to the west, this game isn't even aimed at Eastern audiences.
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
The problem is that Japan has essentially "lost" this generation of game development. Keiji Inafune said as much, and I'd believe it. Japanese developers took this route that gaming would always be some fantastic thing they could never fail at, something they could almost coast along with. Then, out of nowhere, shooters became huge outside of PC gaming, and the market shifted towards it. People still loved all that Japanese-made stuff, like RPGs and action games, but while the game industry boomed, they weren't seeing as much of that profit.
Sure they tried their hand at making shooters, and some of them were okay, but in the end, it wasn't something they could pull off, and they refused to really "learn" about it. Instead, they choose some half-assed, cheap developers to make occidental games for them, and then get angry when they don't sell. DmC is one of the first of these that I've seen that really goes about it differently. It's like Capcom learned their lesson or something, that they needed to be much more hands-on with the game's development, and it shows.
Unfortunately, Japan seeing so much more profit from shooters made them think we don't want their stuff, like so many RPGs and other great titles that we never got. Namco Bandai was notorious for this, having not released any Tales of games for the longest time because they thought "All Westerners care about is shooters and sports games," ignoring the fact that their fanbases cried for more, and only spent their money elsewhere because they didn't give them a reason to give it to them. They seem to be wising up, but...god...Japan has way too much hubris at times, and it's screwing over part of their consumer base :/
Sure they tried their hand at making shooters, and some of them were okay, but in the end, it wasn't something they could pull off, and they refused to really "learn" about it. Instead, they choose some half-assed, cheap developers to make occidental games for them, and then get angry when they don't sell. DmC is one of the first of these that I've seen that really goes about it differently. It's like Capcom learned their lesson or something, that they needed to be much more hands-on with the game's development, and it shows.
Unfortunately, Japan seeing so much more profit from shooters made them think we don't want their stuff, like so many RPGs and other great titles that we never got. Namco Bandai was notorious for this, having not released any Tales of games for the longest time because they thought "All Westerners care about is shooters and sports games," ignoring the fact that their fanbases cried for more, and only spent their money elsewhere because they didn't give them a reason to give it to them. They seem to be wising up, but...god...Japan has way too much hubris at times, and it's screwing over part of their consumer base :/
berto
I Saw the Devil
I don't really aprove with all this nessisity to know how the oposing side of the argument feels. I say just let it go but as choco told me both sides seem real eager to prove the other wrong.
I'd love to say agree to disagree but no one will agree to that. We might say it now but once an argument starts we'd all resort to our previous stance on the matter. I know I have...
I'd also love to say that in the future we'd all look back at these last 2 years and kinda laugh at the absurdety of it all but I don't think that'll happen ether.
I'd love to say agree to disagree but no one will agree to that. We might say it now but once an argument starts we'd all resort to our previous stance on the matter. I know I have...
I'd also love to say that in the future we'd all look back at these last 2 years and kinda laugh at the absurdety of it all but I don't think that'll happen ether.
nightrunner_ks
You are not in control
Sorry but 2chan isn't really reliable for generalising the Japanese view of DmC.
Capcoms statement was "Japanese girls like the new Dante"
Capcoms statement was "Japanese girls like the new Dante"
EllDawn
Well-known Member
Which makes it even more odd that they're still getting the best. Unless they're trying to make Western games appeal to Japan more, there's really no reason for them to give Japan so much.
crush
Well-known Member
2chan seems...unusually calm this day. No one is bad-mouthing about the Vergil trailer.
I'll ask the DMC community this night and see what happens.
Alittleacorn
Smile it confuses people
Well if it brights everyone's day after that, Here's some positive things people have been saying about Vergil's trailer on tumblr:
I only came across one or two negative ones, but mostly just complain on things like 'the game isn't even out yet'.
So, does everyone in Japanese hate this game? Or is it just the select few on 2chan?
And please do tell us, I want to know if they're still living in a hate bubble.
- Ok, I’m sold on the game, if only for this.
- Alright, you got me. Just shut up and take my wallet already.
P.S. Vergil pls fix your hair, thanks.
P.P.S. So the existence of this is kind of a spoiler for a game that’s not even out yet? GOOD JOB, MARKETING.
- Vergil will be playable in a DLC
HELL YEAH !
- ok so like, say what you want about dmc and ninja theory and how they’re f*****g it up b/c they’re not making dante as weeaboo bishie as you want him but like…..
f*** it really just looks like a f*****g swell game ok???????
- Welp, I guess I’m buying DmC.
- If you pre-order, you get Vergil for free…if you don’t he’s DLC? I hate this generation of gaming with dlc. Sigh.
On a brighter note, I’M GOING TO PRE-ORDER AND ITS GOING TO BE GREAT TO PLAY VERGILLLL.
- I defy anyone who tries to say this doesn’t look awesome…
- New DLC to make Vergil a playable character, wheee <3
- S**t. Vergil. Y U So hot?!
- So damn excited to play as Vergil with his fine ass. DAT SWAG
- reboot vergil should keep his hair down… like forever
- HOLY S**T HOLY S**T HOLY S***TTTTTTTTTTT
- Okaaaaay. I’m excited.
- This sir is yummy!
I only came across one or two negative ones, but mostly just complain on things like 'the game isn't even out yet'.
So, does everyone in Japanese hate this game? Or is it just the select few on 2chan?
And please do tell us, I want to know if they're still living in a hate bubble.
crush
Well-known Member
I'm getting a feeling there are more Vergil fans than of Dante...
There seems a sudden change in the threads and forums here. What the...?
Paexie
Well-known Member
Yep. They won't even bother reading about that trailer before hating on it, too. Some of the more ridiculous fans is this guy. Ignore him though. He takes games way too seriously and the "facts" he uses are twisted up to something that isn't. That can't be healthy.
YamatoWielder
Protector of Mankind
crush
Well-known Member
I sense a terrible mental manifestation lol. Is he ill?
Well...it seems that people are concerned about DLC marketing...I think that is valid since the game is not out yet but I see a lot of comments saying "Who cares! We just want to play as Vergil!"
He sure does make a quite elaborate post about his dislike for DmC. And for what? Who is he trying to convince?
YamatoWielder
Protector of Mankind
Maybe he wants to seek attention. smh...
lorddemolatron
I think im sort of dimensional traveller lol
Just lol'ed on this rage thread on Deviantart, some people just can't show how they immature are.
Paexie
Well-known Member
That's true. A lot of people just don't like dlc. No matter how reasonable it is. Period.
IKR? The worst part is that there is people that believe in what he says and then call others sheep/ignorant/etc for those who have their own opinion or differ in any way.