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DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES JOINS CASTLEVANIA IN NEW MULTIVERSE FROM ADI SHANKAR

berto

I Saw the Devil
Moderator
Why is there a listing for I Saw the Devil on his profile!? Are they going to remake it American style!? SON OF A B#$%&!! I hate American remakes. There is no ********* *** **** **** ******* way to make that movie for US audiences. Why must they **** on things!? This is Oldboy all over again!!
 

Lain

Earthbound Immortal
Premium
I figure you got a better shot doing DMC in Live Action than FF or KH.
Eh, with Final Fantasy it really depends on which particular instalment you'd be adapting - I actually thought Kingsglaive was live action from the screenshots on the box of the BD case and thought it looked great.

But while you could probably do a more serious DMC based tale (a la the first DMC novel), I reckon fans would want the over the top "stylish action" of the later instalments and to me trying to imagine the scenes from DMC 3 or 4 in live action is just too silly - I'd be laughing at the film rather than laughing with it.
 

V's patron

be loyal to what matters
Eh, with Final Fantasy it really depends on which particular instalment you'd be adapting - I actually thought Kingsglaive was live action from the screenshots on the box of the BD case and thought it looked great.

But while you could probably do a more serious DMC based tale (a la the first DMC novel), I reckon fans would want the over the top "stylish action" of the later instalments and to me trying to imagine the scenes from DMC 3 or 4 in live action is just too silly - I'd be laughing at the film rather than laughing with it.

I get it but i don't see it the same way because Thor ragnarok and the first two hellboy films did what your talking about.

So I'd just follow their lead with a DMC film.

Just try a more tongue-in-cheek tone and don't take yourself too seriously and DMC will be fine.
 
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Innsmouth

Sleeping DMC Fan
Supporter 2014
Late to the party, but I finished second season. If they stick to action scenes maybe it will be half decent. But I'm sorry, writing is godawfull in it. From dialogues to the story. Maybe they'll got lucky with decent writer, but my hope is all but gone. Honestly I would almost prefer it to be anime instead. At least there would be some hope.
 

RedNether

"Sorry, but I don't lose."
Premium
Late to the party, but I finished second season. If they stick to action scenes maybe it will be half decent. But I'm sorry, writing is godawfull in it. From dialogues to the story. Maybe they'll got lucky with decent writer, but my hope is all but gone. Honestly I would almost prefer it to be anime instead. At least there would be some hope.

Writing is godawful? I'm sorry?

Remember the DMC anime? though I personally liked it, it was still just average at best in terms of writing. what makes you think a new Devil May Cry anime would suddenly magically work instead of just being a repeat of it's predecessor anime?
 

Innsmouth

Sleeping DMC Fan
Supporter 2014
Writing is godawful? I'm sorry?

Remember the DMC anime? though I personally liked it, it was still just average at best in terms of writing. what makes you think a new Devil May Cry anime would suddenly magically work instead of just being a repeat of it's predecessor anime?
I dunno if it works or not. I didn't liked DMC anime. But at least there were SOME hope. I have no hope for castlevania maker. Castlevania writing is pure trash for 12-years old edge lords. Not only half of the second season is completely pointless plotline, that went nowhere and was only for sequel baiting purposes, not only dialogues were apparently written by person who barely talks with surrounding people, since nobody in real life talks like that, additionally in the end it boiled into sobby, whiny mess. If it indication of what in works for DMC, it has 0 hope of being watchable.
 

berto

I Saw the Devil
Moderator
I have no hope for castlevania maker.
I have my reservations with that guy as well. As someone else pointed to me before his works pretty much consist of dark and edgy and DMC is not that. If any knows the story of what got me into DMC they'll know that that is exactly what I loved about DMC, that it wasn't that, so when all you do is this I tend to bite my nails in nervousness.

Castlevania writing is pure trash for 12-years old edge lords.
That's a bit harsh. There are a lot of good things about the show, though it does get a bit trigger happy with the blood and gore and there are some less than poignant aspects. There were some definite highlights, even if you had to sit through a lot of pointlessness.

not only dialogues were apparently written by person who barely talks with surrounding people, since nobody in real life talks like that,
Well, that in itself is not exactly a good point of debate since no one in any form of entertainment talks like people do in real life because dramatic arts require a more theatrical presentation, but I do agree that the dialogue was not particularly appealing. It was rather sloppy at parts so I agree that that wasn't the shows strongest point. I could go into more detail on this but let's just say I agree that the dialogue wasn't good but not for that reason.

I didn't liked DMC anime.
I don't either but if you didn't like the Berserker anime from a few years ago then you can blame the director of both since it seems like he stepped on it with that franchise, too.

If it indication of what in works for DMC, it has 0 hope of being watchable.
I also agree but, again, not for the same reasons. I've stated my concerns before and I think that Castlevania was good. Very flawed but ultimately good. I especially liked the final fight and how it all turned out. But I also don't think that this is the kind of storytelling that would fit with DMC. I also don't want a shared universe for these properties. I debated against it for DMC and Bayonetta so I most definitely don't want it for DMC and Castlevania. So it's not the quality I have an issue against, though I don't particularly think it was the greatest, rather that it qualifies as good and when the rest is pretty much all garbage good enough feels like pure platinum, it's the incompatibility that has me concerned.

What am I listening to?
 

Innsmouth

Sleeping DMC Fan
Supporter 2014
That's a bit harsh. There are a lot of good things about the show, though it does get a bit trigger happy with the blood and gore and there are some less than poignant aspects. There were some definite highlights, even if you had to sit through a lot of pointlessness.
Honestly with show as short as castlevania it's hard to consider any of those highlights, at least for me. The only thing I can praise is visual design of characters and how they kept true to game's environment, enemies and attacks. But their personalities, storyline, etc is effed up beyond any hope.

It was rather sloppy at parts so I agree that that wasn't the shows strongest point. I could go into more detail on this but let's just say I agree that the dialogue wasn't good but not for that reason.
I don't expect "realistic or grounded dialogues", but what I mean it should at least sound authentic in the context. Which it didn't. It's absurd when people sit and dump tons of exposition without any reason and neither corny, awfull jokes about animal rape or porno magic. I'm sorry it sounded at best like kid in the school, telling fart jokes and thinking he's smart and funny. Sadly in both cases it's not a thing.

I don't either but if you didn't like the Berserker anime from a few years ago then you can blame the director of both since it seems like he stepped on it with that franchise, too.
I only watched old Berserk anime. I couldn't warm to 3d models.
 

windleopard

Well-known Member
Yeah, that is one of the things that has me worried. I don't know what role this Shankar guy has but if decides to hire that same guy to write this script I might decide to tap out until I see some reviews. As it is I'm not sure he's the right man for this particular series. The tone of Castlevania, the overall story and the fight with Dracula, specifically the ending, were rather brilliant, but his sense of humor was way hit or miss (see goat molesting scene for very clear example) and the characters and a lot of the themes were really, really out of line with the Castlevania lore, like how Sypha was sent by the church to aid in the quest to kill Dracula while there she's being prosecuted by the church and they are the scum of the Earth (which seems to be the only way Americans will permit the church to written as, apparently) Velmont is a drunk, the most popular kind of hero archetype in the 80's, Isaac is black, now, I'm guessing because it'd be racist not to make him so, Hector is now the biggest pushover I've seen in god knows how many years, and the constant swearing was constantly slapping me out of the experience.

Overall the series was successful and the tone they went for fit this particular series fit but I am far more protective of DMC than I am of Castlevania. As it is I absolutely abhor the one anime fo DMC that already exists for turning Dante from an energetic man of action with a discernible personality to a lazy, boring, bland, punching bag (as in he is the but of all the jokes) so I have very little tolerance for the notion of another very contrasting anime that misses the point by a mile but that just happens to do it in a very American fashion.

The church is a bit of a mixed bag in
I have my reservations with that guy as well. As someone else pointed to me before his works pretty much consist of dark and edgy and DMC is not that. If any knows the story of what got me into DMC they'll know that that is exactly what I loved about DMC, that it wasn't that, so when all you do is this I tend to bite my nails in nervousness.


That's a bit harsh. There are a lot of good things about the show, though it does get a bit trigger happy with the blood and gore and there are some less than poignant aspects. There were some definite highlights, even if you had to sit through a lot of pointlessness.


Well, that in itself is not exactly a good point of debate since no one in any form of entertainment talks like people do in real life because dramatic arts require a more theatrical presentation, but I do agree that the dialogue was not particularly appealing. It was rather sloppy at parts so I agree that that wasn't the shows strongest point. I could go into more detail on this but let's just say I agree that the dialogue wasn't good but not for that reason.


I don't either but if you didn't like the Berserker anime from a few years ago then you can blame the director of both since it seems like he stepped on it with that franchise, too.


I also agree but, again, not for the same reasons. I've stated my concerns before and I think that Castlevania was good. Very flawed but ultimately good. I especially liked the final fight and how it all turned out. But I also don't think that this is the kind of storytelling that would fit with DMC. I also don't want a shared universe for these properties. I debated against it for DMC and Bayonetta so I most definitely don't want it for DMC and Castlevania. So it's not the quality I have an issue against, though I don't particularly think it was the greatest, rather that it qualifies as good and when the rest is pretty much all garbage good enough feels like pure platinum, it's the incompatibility that has me concerned.


What am I listening to?

I admit it may be that I have a different view on this, but I never felt like Netflix's Castlevania was that dark. Indeed, I'd say thing ended better in season than they were when it began. I don't know what Hector was like in the games so I can't speak on that. The church is depicted positively in plenty of American media.
 
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