Dante is half demon, half angel.

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http://www.siliconera.com/2011/08/16/dmc-devil-may-cry-dante-is-half-devil-and-half-angel/

I think this means that indeed, the game is a reboot. An unnecessary one, but a reboot nonetheless.

Getting back on the half demon, half angel thing, I think it's completely retarded. As well as the fact that the schythe is supposed to be holy. What is holy about a schythe?!?

I'd like to see your opinions on this.

Okay, I haven't got a major quarrel with them changing Dante's characteristics. I think they overshot changing his looks a bit too much, to be honest. However, them changing him from half demon and half human to half demon and half angel isn't so bad.

I'll explain why. Demons and angels are stronger 'mentally' and 'physically' compared to human beings. With this said, it's understandable why Dante is so powerful. I've always thought how it didn't make much sense that Dante would age like a human does, but he doesn't get hurt like a human does. Sure, he gets battered around. Take Nero kicking his ass at the beginning of Devil May Cry 4 for example. Dante's demonic powers crackle and he wakes up again from his knocked out/unconscious state of mind. Nero nearly served Dante a can of whoop-ass (In fact, he basically did) Dante's human side wouldn't be able to heal itself quickly. He may have Sparda's blood within him, but how does he harness it so well?

I don't know if anyone here has seen the Blade films? In Blade, even the real vampires take some time to heal their wounds after a battle. It doesn't just happen as soon as they receive a beating. With Dante, it seems to happen moments afterwards (As if to say he never got hurt at all).

With that said and in mind, Dante should have to wait (Be inactive from battle) before his demonic strength inside him can heal his wounds. When does Dante sit back and have a break? He does not. He jumps into all these events, gets knocked around, but never gets any real damage dealt to him.

Other examples. Dante's wounds against Vergil. I know Vergil awakens Dante's Devil Trigger, but he would of still be weak after that battle I'd imagine. Trish attacking Dante at the beginning of Devil May Cry 1. Dante seems unscathed by the attacks. Alastor going into Dante (Dante proves he is powerful enough to handle the sword) this is because the sword does not seem to hurt him at all. Fighting Mundus. Dante gets hit by Mundus when he confronts him for the first time, and he heals right after (He must do, because you go straight into the Boss battle after that scene).

Every time Dante has ever gotten hit by anything, he amends himself almost instantaneously. Unless Dante was more powerful to begin with (For instance, a full demon) then I've never been able to understand how he has always been so powerful. Vergil on the other hand does not seem to possess this strength, or the strength to continue fighting if he is weak. Let's examine Dante's Majin form in Devil May Cry 2. Dante's desperation Devil Trigger. Dante has the will to still be so strong even when he is meant to be so weak. His desperation Devil Trigger clearly shows this.

Realistically, as I said before, Dante would suffer way too much with his human side getting in the way. I'm not doubting he can't be strong and everything even with his human form. I'm simply saying that if he was half demon and half angel then it'd make more sense as to why he can take such a heavy amount of damage and then just shrug it off.

How might I ask are they planning on saying that Dante got his 'Angel' side?
 
im guessing DmC Eva will be an angel instead of a human. making Dante not human at all messes up one of the big themes of Devil May Cry. Dante's humanity is what makes him stronger than full blooded demons. demons have superior physical strength and have magical ablilities but they lack something very important. a "heart". humans have the willpower to succeed dispite impossibe odds, demons don't. the reason Sparda was so powerful is that he had a heart. he found within himself the traits that seperate humans from demons.

if Dante was not half-human in the original cannon he would have never been able to defeat Vergil. Vergil was far more skilled in using his power but rejected his heart so he was relying on only half of who he was against Dante who accepted both halves of his nature. if the original Dante was half-angel Vergil would have been too making their power the same. and when two people have the same level of power and the same basic nature the one with more skill (Vergil) is definitly going to win.

however we knew they were going to ignore the core themes of Devil May Cry anyway after all this is a reboot (after this revalation no one can reasonably argue that it's part of the same cannon as the original games ). and if you look at this from that basis the idea is interesting if a bit unoriginal (Dante's inferno with the Scyth and Cross except in DmC the Scyth is good for some reason )

ps. the reason Dante heals quickly is because Sparda had alot of demonic power (i'm sure if Mundus had a kid with a human it would heal even faster.)
 
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Lol - so Demon x Angel = skinny human in tight pants. This might as well not be a Devil May Cry game. Dunno about that theory. *shrugs*
 
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well what else can you think of that is definitly not even a little bit holy and also defenitly not evil. anything epic looking would lean one way or the other.
 
im guessing DmC Eva will be an angel instead of a human.

if Dante was not half-human in the original cannon he would have never been able to defeat Vergil. Vergil was far more skilled in using his power but rejected his heart so he was relying on only half of who he was against Dante who accepted both halves of his nature. if the original Dante was half-angel Vergil would have been too making their power the same. and when two people have the same level of power and the same basic nature the one with more skill (Vergil) is definitly going to win.

ps. the reason Dante heals quickly is because Sparda had alot of demonic power (i'm sure if Mundus had a kid with a human it would heal even faster.)

Most probably is what they're going to go for. Eva was an angel and Sparda a demon. Their children being hybrids.

I can relate to what you're saying. There is a lot of truth in your words. And you explained the whole thing about how Dante has a heart and fights for the good of humans extremely well. However, I cannot agree entirely with your statements. I do not wish to argue with you or against what you've said. But, in my opinion, making them both half demon and half angel does not mean Vergil would beat Dante in a fight. If you recall, Vergil DOES beat Dante on-top of Temen-Ni-Gru in Devil May Cry Three. However, in the DMC Series, Dante is branded as half demon and half human. Vergil awakens the hidden strength inside his brother. Dante somewhat realises that his own mortality/will power is not enough to save humanity. He needs to rely on power. Examining the end of Devil May Cry 1 for a moment. Dante is being backed into the wall by Mundus, and it is only thanks to Trish coming along and 'saving' Dante by lending him some of her powers that he is able to reseal Mundus. Without his strength, Dante is nothing more than a mere human.

The difference with Dante and Vergil is how they use their powers. They were always equal in strength, but Vergil never found that inner strength in which he needed to succeed. That is why he could never beat Dante again after he woke his brother's Devil Trigger. It is not because Vergil or Dante were ever at a different level of power. With this said, if they were both half angel the same thing would of happened. Dante would of still been stronger with his actions than Vergil.

Dante wouldn't heal as quickly as Mundus or Sparda would, hence my confusion and problem with how fast Dante heals himself. It would make more sense in terms of power and him being able to heal himself if he was part angel also. The idea of him being a demon/angel hybrid personally appeals to me a lot more than him being demon/human hybrid.
 
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Most probably is what they're going to go for. Eva was an Angel and Sparda a demon. Their children being hybrids.

I can relate to what you're saying. There is a lot of truth in your words. And you explained the whole thing about how Dante has a heart and fights for the good of humans extremely well. However, I cannot agree entirely with your statements. I do not wish to argue with you or against what you've said. But, in my opinion, making them both half demon and half angel does not mean Vergil would beat Dante in a fight. If you recall, Vergil DOES beat Dante on-top of Temen-Ni-Gru in Devil May Cry Three. However, in the DMC Series, Dante is branded as half demon and half human. Vergil awakens the hidden strength inside his brother. Dante somewhat realises that his own mortality/will power is not enough to save humanity. He needs to rely on power. Examining the end of Devil May Cry 1 for a moment. Dante is being backed into the wall by Mundus, and it is only thanks to Trish coming along and 'saving' Dante by lending him some of her powers that he is able to reseal Mundus. Without his strength, Dante is nothing more than a mere human.

The difference with Dante and Vergil is how they use their powers. They were always equal in strength, but Vergil never found that inner strength in which he needed to succeed. That is why he could never beat Dante again after he woke his brother's Devil Trigger. It is not because Vergil or Dante were ever at a different level of power. With this said, if they were both half angel the same thing would of happened. Dante would of still been stronger with his actions than Vergil.

Dante wouldn't heal as quickly as Mundus or Sparda would, hence my confusion and problem with how fast Dante heals himself. It would make more sense in terms of power and him being able to heal himself if he was part angel also. The idea of him being a demon/angel hybrid personally appeals to me a lot more than him being demon/human hybrid.

the reason Dante has that inner strengh is because he is half-human. if they were both half-demon half-angel Dante wouldn't have that human "heart" that allowed him to win instead he would have angelic power. something Vergil would not reject. so they would still have equal power but Dante wouldn't have the "heart" that allowed him to win dispite Vergil's higher level of skill and experince . the reason Dante lost the first fight is because at that point he did not have his full power and heart alone was not enough to defeat greater power and skill.

the fact that Dante heals as fast as he does just means that Sparda heals even faster.
 
the reason Dante has that inner strengh is because he is half-human. if they were both half-demon half-angel Dante wouldn't have that human "heart" that allowed him to win instead he would have angelic power. something Vergil would not reject. so they would still have equal power but Dante wouldn't have the "heart" that allowed him to win dispite Vergil's higher level of skill and experince . the reason Dante lost the first fight is because at that point he did not have his full power and heart alone was not enough to defeat greater power and skill.

the fact that Dante heals as fast as he does just means that Sparda heals even faster.

Dante was laid back and did not seek power. Vergil used his strength to acquire more power. This is why Dante fails to beat Vergil, that and his heart alone was not enough to win (As you already stated) so that point is well made. However, Dante was able to beat Vergil once he had activated his Devil Trigger and once Dante took what was happening more seriously. After that Dante beat Vergil twice, showing that his skill was far greater. Dante needed Vergil's help to beat Arkham because he was still young and his strength wasn't great enough.

Remember, this is a Reboot. We're forgetting the story and structure of the DMC Series. This is DmC. So you can't really make points against who is more skilled/more powerful when you're talking about Devil May Cry games that have already been made as an oppose to this game that is still being developed.

Dante and Vergil being half demon and half angel would not change the story line. Angels have hearts, demons supposedly don't. When they say a 'heart', they mean the will to care. Sparda was different, he had the will to care. He changed his heart and his mind from bad to good and rebelled. Dante has the same love and admiration as his father did, Vergil does not. Vergil would use his angelic powers for evil, in the form of a fallen angel (Much like Lucifer) and in that sense he'd neglect his 'heart' and therefore he would still be outdone by Dante who stayed true to his heart and fought for something. The story would remain identical. The only difference would be that they'd be half angel and not half human. And it would explain how they grow to be so strong and why they grow to outdo their father's strength. Sparda as a full demon compared to his sons who are half demon and half angel. In the long run, harnessing these powers and feeding their hybrid selves would surely mean they'd eventually outdo the power of their father.

Sparda himself would of healed at a much faster rate. But his sons, only at half his power from birth, would of healed at twice the rate it would of taken Sparda to heal. It does not make sense to me at all.
 
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WHAT?! This is just getting more silly. Bayonetta hints at the fact Eva is a witch, and now another company IN A REBOOT states that Dante is an angel! What's wrong with being half-human?!

NT should've made a game with their own characters/storyline if they wanted half-angel/half-demon characters. The Dante I know is Half Human and will always be half human. Giving him divine AND demonic powers makes him sound more invincible than the Dante that exists already.

JUST STUPID!
 
It kind of explains a lot, I think at least. Yet to find anyone who actually likes the idea of him being half demon and half angel.

Humans - Weaker than demons (Usually) and weaker than Devils. Angels - Stronger than humans and on par with demons and Devils.
Humans - Strong hearted. - Angels - Pure and strong hearted.
Humans - Unable to do supernatural things. Angels - Ability to use magic and harness angelic powers.
 
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It kind of explains a lot, I think at least. Yet to find anyone who actually likes the idea of him being half demon and half angel.
half-demon and half-angel, not too bad:). i really like the new concept.

i just hope this isn't going to like dante's inferno. the dark and light trees if you what i mean.
 
your welcome. besides as long as he's part demon, i'm happy. it's what got me into the whole series.
having an angel is a bonus.;)

Exactly. Finally someone who agrees with me. Now all we have to do is spread the word that it's not a bad thing and we'll be okay (I hope) =/
 
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I just think that NT is making bad moves as of late.

They already have a mediocre track record with games which already had many DMC fans worried.

And now they are making drastic changes such as making Dante a half Angel.

They are only further raising concerns among the sketpic DMC fans like myself.

I think if this keeps up that Capcom and NT are going to be really disapointed when it comes time for this game to be released.
 
It's official. DmC is the love-child of Dante and Bayonetta.
I never thought Dante could be made more cliché than he already is. NT has proven me wrong.
I'm a bit put off about the angel thing. Like Dante wasn't screwed up enough already being half human and half demon? An angel/demon hybrid is seriously messed up.
I might retract my words at a later stage since my reaction to this news might be influenced by only four hours of sleep in the last 24 hours and having had no coffee yet.
 
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