Capcom asks you to choose wich game gets a sequel

[ToCool74]

Yeah, there was a discussion in another thread where there was an idea of Nero trying to find Dante after DMC2, but found Lucia instead (DMC2 ending), so you play one part as Nero seeking to unveil his past, but also as Dante who fights through Hell to find Vergil and save him or something. I'm thinking somewhat like they shifted between Kain and Raziel in "Legacy of Kain: Defiance".
It would be a good way to make a DMC5 and end the original series, and then maybe continue DmC with a sequal.

Yea as long as the original DMC gets a proper sendoff while explaining some of the plotholes in the series I don't mind DmC continuing on.

I just want to see the original series get a proper sendoff first beforehand.

And as for the story you explained, that actually sounds pretty good, so long as Dante is still the focal point I'm ok with it.

 

[V]

I'd like a game about Sparda. Or one that fills in events in time between DMC3 and DMC1.

In other words, tie up loose ends with older games, not DmC.

 

[Ether0]

I would much prefer a DmC2 but a DMC5 would be awesome as well, better level design, radically improved combat like a big step up from 4, since 4 was just a slight improvement from 3. I want to just play with Dante, making the others optional might be cool but honestly I would love to be able to fall in love with old school Dante again and not be annoyed. More weapons and cooler styles. And a brand new story that has nothing to do with 2 or 4. I know some want to see Nero return and i'm not opposed to it but I would prefer just Old school Dante over his less interesting clone.

 

[AlchemistFromEden]

Interesting, as huge naruto fan myself I am aware of that filler arc, and I would really like to know just how exactly you came to the conclusion that "stagnated harder" than that.

I'm honestly curious to see whether its just you throwing stones at the old series or that you have a legitimate reason for the comparison.

by stagnated i mean any story in the series that takes place after the first game
-the anime
-dmc4
-the novels
-the comics
none of the stories advanced or made you think "this is definitely gonna affect the future of the story" and the more they added the more plotholes were made and the less relevant the actual side characters became, seriously, what was the point of making a character like nero besides making a clone of dante with an actual love interest, and then to make things worst instead of having nero look like he's struggling half the time he blows through every huge demon he finds, and yet somehow gets held back by a bunch of knights, and where in any story after dmc 1 did dante develop as a character, if anything he didn't do that at and just switched his persona
-dmc1 anime=mostly quiet and unless he's being talked to and even then he barely talks
-dmc4-dmc3 personality with less wit
-dmc2-um what? extremely silent with no wit at all besides a coin?
seriously, even in the dmc4 novel, (which is non canon) he states that he couldn't care less who nero's parents are because he has "the spirit of what's important"--word for word

 

[AlchemistFromEden]

I'd like a game about Sparda. Or one that fills in events in time between DMC3 and DMC1.

In other words, tie up loose ends with older games, not DmC.

can we please stop with prequels, seriously

 

[Zato-OW]

DMC5 or a Sparda game. Capcom was actually considering making one after DMC4 but we see where that went.

 

[ToCool74]

by stagnated i mean any story in the series that takes place after the first game
-the anime
-dmc4
-the novels
-the comics
none of the stories advanced or made you think "this is definitely gonna affect the future of the story" and the more they added the more plotholes were made and the less relevant the actual side characters became, seriously, what was the point of making a character like nero besides making a clone of dante with an actual love interest, and then to make things worst instead of having nero look like he's struggling half the time he blows through every huge demon he finds, and yet somehow gets held back by a bunch of knights, and where in any story after dmc 1 did dante develop as a character, if anything he didn't do that at and just switched his persona
-dmc1 anime=mostly quiet and unless he's being talked to and even then he barely talks
-dmc4-dmc3 personality with less wit
-dmc2-um what? extremely silent with no wit at all besides a coin?
seriously, even in the dmc4 novel, (which is non canon) he states that he couldn't care less who nero's parents are because he has "the spirit of what's important"--word for word

Thanks for the thought out post.

I disagree, but its nice to see that you have your own thought out reasons for the comparison rather than simple mud slinging at the old series.


DMC2 served as a basis to show us how strong and mature Dante has become after all his journeys.
DMC3 served to show us the relationship between Dante and Vergil and how Dante got his business started up in the first place
DMC4 served to show us that Sparda had a huge impact on some humans enough to the point of where he was worshiped as a god to some people.

So while some of these things may be viewed as minor it doesn't change that each game added SOMETHING to the series.


That is why I can't agree with the Filler arc comparison since it added absolutely NOTHING to the Naruto series.

 

[AlchemistFromEden]

Thanks for the thought out post.

I disagree, but its nice to see that you have your own thought out reasons for the comparison rather than simple mud slinging at the old series.


DMC2 served as a basis to show us how strong and mature Dante has become after all his journeys.
DMC3 served to show us the relationship between Dante and Vergil and how Dante got his business started up in the first place
DMC4 served to show us that Sparda had a huge impact on some human enough to the point of where he was worshiped as a god to some people.

So while some of these things may be viewed as minor it doesn't change that each game added SOMETHING to the series.


That is why I can't agree with the Filler arc comparison since it added absolutely NOTHING to the Naruto series.

-dmc2 was seriously itsuno screwing with hideki's story come on man,why would dante become an extremely boring and frankly overpowered protagonist?when at the end of dmc4, he's still cocky as hell
-notice how i said every story that takes place after the story of dmc1
-there is literally no more room for a compelling plot in fortuna, and it was just a backdrop of imo frankly very bland environments, there were no other human protagonists except for kyrie and later a very cliche' attempt at making credo a deep character, and still, in dmc4 and 2 dante didn't develop as a character, like he says
"my job is hunting devils" which makes him really just going through the motions

 

[ToCool74]

-dmc2 was seriously itsuno screwing with hideki's story come on man,why would dante become an extremely boring and frankly overpowered protagonist?when at the end of dmc4, he's still cocky as hell
-notice how i said every story that takes place after the story of dmc1
-there is literally no more room for a compelling plot in fortuna, and it was just a backdrop of imo frankly very bland environments, there were no other human protagonists except for kyrie and later a very cliche' attempt at making credo a deep character, and still, in dmc4 and 2 dante didn't develop as a character, like he says
"my job is hunting devils" which makes him really just going through the motions

I get where your coming from kinda, but I'm merely attesting to your Filler comparison.

I pointed out that some of what i listed could be listed as adding something "minor" to the series.

But at least it did in my opinion add SOMETHING unlike the filler arc of Naruto.

 

[AlchemistFromEden]

I get where your coming from kinda, but I'm merely attesting to your Filler comparison.

I pointed out that some of what i listed could be listed as adding something "minor" to the series.

But at least it did in my opinion add SOMETHING unlike the filler arc of Naruto.

yeah it added something but seriously if they do dmc5 they should really focus on telling a good story because DmC is now the standard for storytelling in the devil may cry series, regardless of what the loud minority of fanboys say

 

[Zato-OW]

-dmc2 was seriously itsuno screwing with hideki's story come on man,why would dante become an extremely boring and frankly overpowered protagonist?when at the end of dmc4, he's still cocky as hell
-notice how i said every story that takes place after the story of dmc1
-there is literally no more room for a compelling plot in fortuna, and it was just a backdrop of imo frankly very bland environments, there were no other human protagonists except for kyrie and later a very cliche' attempt at making credo a deep character, and still, in dmc4 and 2 dante didn't develop as a character, like he says
"my job is hunting devils" which makes him really just going through the motions

This is pretty much correct, DMC2 was well we pretty much know what it was. DMC4 is just Capcom being typical Capcom in the ps3/360 era. They have screwed up nearly every game for the consoles they have put out. DMC4 started out good until Kyrie got captured that's when it really went down hill. The thing that made me mad the most was that they introduce Gloria and here people think she will be a cool boss fight and they do nothing with her except some crappy plot twist. I could go on but... Not a bad or great game but it was shameful compared to DMC3/1 of their eras.

 

[ToCool74]

yeah it added something but seriously if they do dmc5 they should really focus on telling a good story because DmC is now the standard for storytelling in the devil may cry series, regardless of what the loud minority of fanboys say

DmC did indeed have a good story, but I felt its ending kinda dampened it.

So while I would place its story over the likes of DMC2 and DMC4, I would have to place it under the likes of DMC1 and DMC3.

I agree though with the notion that they should focus on making a good story for DMC5.

 

[Ether0]

Thanks for the thought out post.

I disagree, but its nice to see that you have your own thought out reasons for the comparison rather than simple mud slinging at the old series.


DMC2 served as a basis to show us how strong and mature Dante has become after all his journeys.
DMC3 served to show us the relationship between Dante and Vergil and how Dante got his business started up in the first place
DMC4 served to show us that Sparda had a huge impact on some humans enough to the point of where he was worshiped as a god to some people.

So while some of these things may be viewed as minor it doesn't change that each game added SOMETHING to the series.


That is why I can't agree with the Filler arc comparison since it added absolutely NOTHING to the Naruto series.

You know I see your point but I would have to disagree, I think DMC2's Dante had been given the whole new, "darker" stoic hero treatment that happens in a lot of fictional media be it games or movies because Dante was not really immature at all in DMC1.

It's sort of like the jump from character persona in the first two Prince of Persia games. If Dante had been more well received in that game DMC3 Dante would not exist. His youth and immaturity is a direct response to the boring character from DMC2. Capcom saw how much fans enjoyed that version of Dante and shaped DMC4 Dante to be the same way. It was less about a real plan for character development and more about just giving fans what they wanted and running with it.

I do however agree that they did add some elements to the story, well mainly only DMC3 with Vergil and Dante's relationship. The rest was kinda filler but will never ever in a million years be as bad as Naruto filler lol

 

[ToCool74]

You know I see your point but I would have to disagree, I think DMC2's Dante had been given the whole new, "darker" stoic hero treatment that happens in a lot of fictional media be it games or movies because Dante was not really immature at all in DMC1.

It's sort of like the jump from character persona in the first two Prince of Persia games. If Dante had been more well received in that game DMC3 Dante would not exist. His youth and immaturity is a direct response to the boring character from DMC2. Capcom saw how much fans enjoyed that version of Dante and shaped DMC4 Dante to be the same way. It was less about a real plan for character development and more about just giving fans what they wanted and running with it.

well I get your point, but I honestly did not find DMC2 Dante "boring" although he was less entertaining than his DMC1 and DMC3 counterparts.

But I'm merely trying to give reason to that character being the way he is.

And that is him simply maturing over the years since DMC2 takes place after all those games.

DMC4 hints at this with the line "with age Dante has become more fearless than ever and has embraced the legacy of his father".

You can see the line here in this video at 4:00

If you look at his character in that light of maturing than it becomes more understandable in my opinion.

 

[ThanatosPL]

Its funny how people are hateing DmC, swearing on NT and Capcom, yet they ruined the original series, and few months later they dont want to see DMC5 anymore hoping on DmC2 :ermm:. I would like to se each game but if i would have to chose which one, it would be DMC5, original series need to be finished first if they want to abandon it later.

 

[Ether0]

well I get your point, but I honestly did not find DMC2 Dante "boring" although he was less entertaining than his DMC1 and DMC3 counterparts.

But I'm merely trying to give reason to that character being the way he is.

And that is him simply maturing over the years since DMC2 takes place after all those games.

DMC4 hints at this with the line "with age Dante has become more fearless than ever and has embraced the legacy of his father".

You can see the line here in this video at 4:00

If you look at his character in that light of maturing than it becomes more understandable in my opinion.

Well thank you for seeing my point and I do see the whole maturing thing. I would still argue that canonical timeline was only made so that Capcom could sweep that Dante under the rug since the game was not liked by many. I do like the character maturing but I just found his character arc in the series all over the place.

Like In DMC3 Dante is young arrogant and brash, that great fits him perfectly. In DMC1 he is more mature and more like a demon killer James Bond but with that slight hint of his younger self, also great. In DMC4 he is almost exactly like his DMC3 self for some reason and in DMC2 he is barely like any of his younger incarnations except in a few fleeting moments but is very much a loner and very stoic hero guy and to me that equals a disconnect and shows that Dante's development was the last thing on their to do list for the game.

 

[FatDemon]

How could they save the old series ? Sure, they could make a new DMC, but knowing Capcom it will only raise MORE questions. If DMC5 is made, they have alot of plotholes and loose ends to explain.

 

[Downfall]

How could they save the old series ? Sure, they could make a new DMC, but knowing Capcom it will only raise MORE questions. If DMC5 is made, they have alot of plotholes and loose ends to explain.

This should be the subheader for every thread that requests DMC5.

 

[Ether0]

Yeah and they do have a lot of plotholes and if people who jump on board at DmC play the game, they will be even more lost than series vets who still don't know what the hell is going on lol

 

[Downfall]

-dmc2 was seriously itsuno screwing with hideki's story

What story? :|