@VampireWicked Beers-Sama says Goku can't beat Freeza as he is. (Base) That's why he brings up their transforming ability through the SS process.
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People have to remember that SSJ is not a set powerlevel but a multiplier to the base power level.
Goku turning Super Saiyan back during the Frieza saga is leagues weaker than Goku turning Super Saiyan from the Buu Saga on forward since by then he has had many years to train his base powerlevel to new heights.
Hell, I'm pretty confident that his base powerlevel in the Buu saga all but sh!tz on his Super Saiyan form in the Frieza saga.
So yea, I agree that base Goku now should be able to stomp Frieza from back on Namek.
Unless Frieza has reached some new transformations that increases his power drastically each time than I just do not see what he can do.
Goku turning Super Saiyan back during the Frieza saga is leagues weaker than Goku turning Super Saiyan from the Buu Saga on forward since by then he has had many years to train his base powerlevel to new heights.
Hell, I'm pretty confident that his base powerlevel in the Buu saga all but sh!tz on his Super Saiyan form in the Frieza saga.
So yea, I agree that base Goku now should be able to stomp Frieza from back on Namek.
Unless Frieza has reached some new transformations that increases his power drastically each time than I just do not see what he can do.
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going back is overdone at this point.. its most likely a wish which would give frieza some sort of powers or something like that which could challenge Gods.
I really hope Goku doesn't take eternity for preparing his Spirit Bomb against Frieza like the last time
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Also goku and vegeta have the same symbol on their new outfits.
That screams them getting training from Bills and Whis if you ask me, the real question is WHY?
And Goku is fighting Frieza in his final form in his base form, and then Frieza proceeds to go into his new transformation, so that transformation has to multiply his power by millions upon millions to make a difference since Goku judging by that trailer was not even using SSJ to fight his previous final form.
This movie just seems kinda "off" to me, just don't see why they decided to bring Frieza back for this movie, I get he has a lot of fans and I know those fans are excited and I do not want to rain on their parade but I just hope that they give us actual good explanation on how someone like Frieza can come back from the dead and close such a tremendous gap in strength to possibly be a match for Goku and friends as they are now.
Also why do they have Gohan going SSJ again in the trailer?
They did the same thing with the BOG trailer but they corrected it in the actual movie, it seems like they just forget things to easily when making a trailer...
That screams them getting training from Bills and Whis if you ask me, the real question is WHY?
And Goku is fighting Frieza in his final form in his base form, and then Frieza proceeds to go into his new transformation, so that transformation has to multiply his power by millions upon millions to make a difference since Goku judging by that trailer was not even using SSJ to fight his previous final form.
This movie just seems kinda "off" to me, just don't see why they decided to bring Frieza back for this movie, I get he has a lot of fans and I know those fans are excited and I do not want to rain on their parade but I just hope that they give us actual good explanation on how someone like Frieza can come back from the dead and close such a tremendous gap in strength to possibly be a match for Goku and friends as they are now.
Also why do they have Gohan going SSJ again in the trailer?
They did the same thing with the BOG trailer but they corrected it in the actual movie, it seems like they just forget things to easily when making a trailer...
Even if gohan got weaker that still doesn't make sense to me because Kai unlocked all of his powers to the outside so he has no reason to go super saiyan at all toriyma seems to have forgotten that.
It kinda makes sense to me because he's like the only villain who's worthy enough to come back unlike cell&buu freiza is more archetypal&imperialistic.
I just hope Freiza doesn't get axed off like he was in that other DBZ movie and DBGT.
IDK i just hope this is just a trailer mistake and that it isn't in the actual movie..
I've also noticed the same thing in the BOG movie trailer too..
or maybe gohan can still go supersaiyan after becoming mystic , but never had a reason to before ?
It'd be fitting if Goku and Vegeta had to fuse to defeat Frieza. Maybe become SSJ God Vegeto... though I'd rather see SSJ4 Vegeto. That way both Vegeta and Goku can have revenge for what happened/is going to happen. *Starts drooling from the sheer epicness*.
Based on the trailer I think Freeza's new evolution is going to look like his First form. Plus Movie goers get one of two keychains; One with Son in his new outfit and/or one of Freeza in his movie clothes. Which is his first form! Plus he's in his flying pod! Considering first form Freeza is shown destroying worlds and being a ruler makes the imaginary quite perfect.
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@VampireWicked I use Tumblr for my Gifs actually. I usually have to look at countless pages before I discover a suitable one. But totally worth it!
regarding Dragon Ball Xenoverse, it would seem that Dimps may perhaps be adopting the BS DLC policy that other game developers are doing.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/21/season-pass-details-revealed-for-dragon-ball-xenoverse-dlc
I have said it before and I will say it again, DLC is fine when used the right way, it can be a truly great thing.
Like for instance when it is worked on AFTER the game has been out for say or month or so and is announced.
That way its used as a way of enhancing the consumers experience as opposed to a quick cash grab.
But to have this announced before the game even hit shelves....why couldn't they have added this to the actual game?
And I was looking forward to the return of GT characters in Dragon Ball games only to have to pay for some of them now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/21/season-pass-details-revealed-for-dragon-ball-xenoverse-dlc
I have said it before and I will say it again, DLC is fine when used the right way, it can be a truly great thing.
Like for instance when it is worked on AFTER the game has been out for say or month or so and is announced.
That way its used as a way of enhancing the consumers experience as opposed to a quick cash grab.
But to have this announced before the game even hit shelves....why couldn't they have added this to the actual game?
And I was looking forward to the return of GT characters in Dragon Ball games only to have to pay for some of them now.
Yeah, it's a shame when companies announces DLC for a game Pre-Launch. But this game doesn't look good anyway. DBZ budokai Tenkaichi 3 on Dolphin emulator looks a lot better than this,has more playable characters and it's a lot more faithful to the anime series (it's not piracy if you have the original game and use it to play on the emulator)
I think the game is looking good myself, not phenomenal graphically but the gameplay and features it has are looking fantastic.
Tenkaichi 3 is still my favorite DBZ game hands down at the moment, but this is looking great.
I just wish they did not start this DLC BS so early, it should have all the characters in the game already as unlockable rather than paid.