About the new trailer...

[Lain]

Inside me there are two types of fans. One is optimistic and sees the OP as full of endearing fanservice that is meant to serve as a love letter to the whole franchise. The other me is old and cynical and sees this as jangling keys to draw speculation and hype over stuff that is very likely not going to turn up in the actual show.

Either way, still don't think that the music fits.

 

[Picard]

The other me is old and cynical and sees this as jangling keys to draw speculation and hype over stuff that is very likely not going to turn up in the actual show.

After my disappointment with Rings of Power, I am afraid I can only see it as the latter...

 

[V's patron]

I remember liking this AMV in high school. So I guess that's why I'm fine with the intro.

 

[XELNAGATYLER]

Inside me there are two types of fans. One is optimistic and sees the OP as full of endearing fanservice that is meant to serve as a love letter to the whole franchise. The other me is old and cynical and sees this as jangling keys to draw speculation and hype over stuff that is very likely not going to turn up in the actual show.

Either way, still don't think that the music fits.

Most likely he's going to throw in a bunch of references, reddit memes, and people will declare it to be a masterpiece... even if it makes no sense.

 

[Vergil's Waifu]

I've been thinking, what my original comment should've been was, *sarcasm* "Oh goody. Another western bastardization of my favourite game franchise."

You DON'T need s*x to make something mature (I crashed out of Castlevania when I heard about the inclusion of it in Season 2 - I'm not a prude, I just don't think it's needed in anything game related - ESPECIALLY Castlevania).

There's definitely a prequel element to DMC3 there, as the white rabbit from the Manga is included in the trailer.

On the plus side, the guy behind this is a believer in alternate universes, so that's good.

 

[XELNAGATYLER]

I've been thinking, what my original comment should've been was, *sacasm* "Oh goody. Another western bastardization of my favourite game franchise."

You DON'T need s*x to make something mature (I crashed out of Castlevania when I heard about the inclusion of it in Season 2 - I'm not a prude, I just don't think it's needed in anything game related - ESPECIALLY Castlevania).

There's definitely a prequel element to DMC3 there, as the white rabbit from the Manga is included in the trailer.

On the plus side, the guy behind this is a believer in alternate universes, so that's good.

S*x scenes have never been necessary in any media ever. I wouldn't consider myself a hyper prude either, but when I see stuff like that I automatically think "The people who animated this are perverts". There is also the problem where some of the directors purposely make female characters look ugly which I fear is being done to Lady. The DMC2 manga, from what I've heard, also had alternative universes, though I don't know much about it.

And finally: Why didn't Capcom, a JAPANESE company, hire a JAPANESE animation studio to make this instead?? And I think I know why, part of me thinks, that the reason they chose Adi was because he was willing to do it for far less money than what other studios would have asked for.

 

[Vergil's Waifu]

S*x scenes have never been necessary in any media ever. I wouldn't consider myself a hyper prude either, but when I see stuff like that I automatically think "The people who animated this are perverts". There is also the problem where some of the directors purposely make female characters look ugly which I fear is being done to Lady. The DMC2 manga, from what I've heard, also had alternative universes, though I don't know much about it.

And finally: Why didn't Capcom, a JAPANESE company, hire a JAPANESE animation studio to make this instead?? And I think I know why, part of me thinks, that the reason they chose Adi was because he was willing to do it for far less money than what other studios would have asked for.

I agree with you.
I'm aware that this part of my comment is going down like a lead balloon, but here I go:
I've been Googling the director's name to see if he's a member of the "woke brigade". I haven't found anything, so far.
I'm aware of this obsession to female characters being made more ugly or manly (which now seems to become a common practice in modern gaming - Especially in the west). Because I honestly thought that was what happened to Trish's design in DMC5 (even though it's a Japanese game). I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to do that to Lady in the new series.

I've read the DMC2 book, and it was set in an alternate universe. Instead of (referring to Sparda) as "Legendary Dark Knight", he was known as "The Tragic Dark Knight" (it's been a while since I've read it - So I'm not sure of the actual title).

As for your final comment. I agree. Plus, yes, he probably was cheaper.
But I'm also thinking that Capcom doesn't give a damn what what happens to the franchise as long as it makes them money. Case in point - Pinnacle of Combat.

 

[berto]

@berto
the first season could be a new story that's a prequel to 3. so the extra characters could be apart of it.

Yeah, I finally got around to reading that article above. I think this means that this is the intro video to the series, not just season 1. I've read before that the characters were going to change over time so maybe they'll just adjust the characters in the intro each season to match the new designs.

Why didn't Capcom, a JAPANESE company, hire a JAPANESE animation studio to make this instead?? And I think I know why, part of me thinks, that the reason they chose Adi was because he was willing to do it for far less money than what other studios would have asked for.

Maybe. Or maybe he got Netflix to finance it and Capcom gets free publicity.

 

[Lain]

I've been Googling the director's name to see if he's a member of the "woke brigade". I haven't found anything, so far.

Considering people on places like Reddit were melting down when Shankar posted about his invite to the Trump inauguration a week back, I don't think you have too much to worry about there.

 

[Vergil's Waifu]

Considering people on places like Reddit were melting down when Shankar posted about his invite to the Trump inauguration a week back, I don't think you have too much to worry about there.

Thank you for clearing that up

 

[Benny]

Any more trailer/clip of Dante talking in Nero's voice besides waa hoo bing bing yet?

 

[berto]

I've been Googling the director's name to see if he's a member of the "woke brigade". I haven't found anything, so far.

Well, it's actually somewhat in the work, not his personal posts. It's rooted in the way the show treated Alucard, turning him bisexual out of nowhere. In the original canon he got together with Maria and never showed any interest in men. It was odd to see him be on the receiving end of a threesome. Hector went from lead in his on game to a pushover and Isaac turned turned muslim, I think. He definitely wasn't black before. Carmilla went from boss in the games to girl boss. There is a pattern and people are concerned.
I honestly don't care about his politics, as long as they don't interfere with the work but it seems like it has before. I don't know if it's him or if it's Netflix's guidelines but it happened to Castlevania and we don't know if it's going to be another Netflix adaptation, and everything that initials, or it's going to be a thing where they listen to criticism and it'll be another Cowboy Bebop to One Piece situation.

Considering people on places like Reddit were melting down when Shankar posted about his invite to the Trump inauguration a week back, I don't think you have too much to worry about there.

Yeah, that place is a cesspool. That thread is full redditors of the most stereotypical. Don't bother taking any of their opinions too seriously. As soon as the wind changes they'll go with it.

I've read the DMC2 book, and it was set in an alternate universe. Instead of (referring to Sparda) as "Legendary Dark Knight", he was known as "The Tragic Dark Knight" (it's been a while since I've read it - So I'm not sure of the actual title).

Don't forget that the book was translated by TokyoPop. They were famous for taking liberties with their translations.

 

[Morgan]

Oh, good, so Lady is ugly in this anime not because of "woke", it's just because she's ugly and Adi Shankar is incompetent. That makes things so much better.

The dude thinks "Batman v Superman" has "shades of white power".

 

[XELNAGATYLER]

Well, it's actually somewhat in the work, not his personal posts. It's rooted in the way the show treated Alucard, turning him bisexual out of nowhere. In the original canon he got together with Maria and never showed any interest in men. It was odd to see him be on the receiving end of a threesome.

That's insane. I'm not a Castlevania fan, I don't know anything about it, though the old NES games look cool, I've never played any of the games. This guy seems completely indifferent to accurate lore and would rather throw a bunch of whatever on the screen. I know he changed another piece of lore too; He made it so vampires in castlevania are scared of right angles, and that the vampires are scared of the cross not because of its connection to Jesus, but because the shape of it confuses their brains. What a joke. Imagine if Itsuno said "Demons aren't weak to Holy Water because of its connection to Christianity, but because they hate showering"

It wouldn't surprise me if he tries to make one of the DMC characters gay or something along those lines. There's surprisingly a lot of people who already think Dante is bisexual despite the fact there is no evidence. I hope Adi doesn't look at that and think "Great idea!" I am already tired of his cringe attempt to be "one of us" on twitter.

 

[Vergil's Waifu]

@berto I knew there were changes made, but I didn't know what. And after reading that, I'm so glad that I never forked out for any of the other series on Blu-ray (because S1 looked really promising).

I didn't know about TokyoPop either.

@Morgan I knew Adi said something about "white - something". But I couldn't remember what.
I don't really know what to say because "politics" (I don't know what forum rules are on this).
But, when someone says that "they don't feel represented"... They're already pushing an "agenda" (or sees themselves as an activist). It's what's been happening in the western gaming industry for... Who knows how long.

@XELNAGATYLER Vampires are scared of right angles??? WTF?! There are right angles everywhere in life/nature. I'm genuinely having a 404 error right now.
I've not heard of Dante being classed as Bi before.

 

[Morgan]

Imagine if Itsuno said "Demons aren't weak to Holy Water because of its connection to Christianity, but because they hate showering"

There is no "Christianity" in DMC because there are no angels (or God, or Heaven) in general in DMC. And *that* is a direct quote from Itsuno. No angels exist, just other forms of demonic presence, and Holy Water has no connection to any religion we know of, it's just demon repellent.

 

[XELNAGATYLER]

There is no "Christianity" in DMC because there are no angels (or God, or Heaven) in general in DMC. And *that* is a direct quote from Itsuno. No angels exist, just other forms of demonic presence, and Holy Water has no connection to any religion we know of, it's just demon repellent.

There was a Protestant Church in the Anime with a cross outside. Though some don't believe the anime is canon. Itsuno made a mess of the DMC story so he isn't the most reliable source.

 

[Cait_D_Huntress]

Wow that is not what i was expecting, looks nothing like devil may cry as i know it.

Will have to wait and see how it turns out i guess.

 

[Lain]

That's insane. I'm not a Castlevania fan, I don't know anything about it, though the old NES games look cool, I've never played any of the games. This guy seems completely indifferent to accurate lore and would rather throw a bunch of whatever on the screen. I know he changed another piece of lore too; He made it so vampires in castlevania are scared of right angles, and that the vampires are scared of the cross not because of its connection to Jesus, but because the shape of it confuses their brains. What a joke. Imagine if Itsuno said "Demons aren't weak to Holy Water because of its connection to Christianity, but because they hate showering"

It wouldn't surprise me if he tries to make one of the DMC characters gay or something along those lines. There's surprisingly a lot of people who already think Dante is bisexual despite the fact there is no evidence. I hope Adi doesn't look at that and think "Great idea!" I am already tired of his cringe attempt to be "one of us" on twitter.

FWIW, the "Vampires are repelled by Crosses because they are right angles" seems to come from season 4 (I didn't make it that far) of Netlix's Castlevania which was driven solely by comic book writer Warren Ellis after Shankar allegedly left after season 2 because of Ellis was a nightmare to work with.

 

[berto]

I know he changed another piece of lore too; He made it so vampires in castlevania are scared of right angles, and that the vampires are scared of the cross not because of its connection to Jesus, but because the shape of it confuses their brains. What a joke.

Dude, no. I heard that one, too, but it's not real. If there is such a thing as the most fundamental element of architecture then that would be the 90° angle. They are everywhere in man made works. They'd catch on fire at the sight of a staircase if that was the case. It was a joke. How would they get through the window of their victim's room, or a door!?

It wouldn't surprise me if he tries to make one of the DMC characters gay or something along those lines.

And, see, that is the reason they call him that. It's not because he shows any incline towards an idealism that pushes that as it is his work on Castlevania, and that has people worried Dante is going to have a boyfriend or he's going to be of some kind of complicated sexual preference that is going to have him hooking up with, basically, not a woman, which is what we've known him to be attracted to from the very start. I don't know if that's a real concern but, then again, if you had told people that what happened with Alucard happened with Alucard before the show got to that point that they'd have any concern at so something so ridiculous would actually happen.

There is no "Christianity" in DMC because there are no angels (or God, or Heaven) in general in DMC. And *that* is a direct quote from Itsuno.

There are no angels in Itsuno's DMC but there is a Christ in Kamiya's. Capcom USA changed the passage in the booklet to say that Mundus was born 2000 years ago in a snowy day in hell but the original Japanese states that it was when the star shone above Bethlehem and specifically mentions Jesus. I'm assuming they changed this because they felt uncomfortable with the correlation and found it easier to just remove it.

Taking this position makes too many discrepancies. Isn't there an angel feather in DMC4? It's covered in a crystal written in Hebrew. You have Credo claiming he's become an angel and the fallen from 3 clearly have the appearance of angels, that one is evident.

I honestly think that they are just uncomfortable bringing in judeo-christian elements to it since it'd be too much trouble having to deal with it.

Holy Water has no connection to any religion

Which is silly. The word holy denotes divinity. It's not a seperate term. You can't really have a holy item without a holy presence. It's the same thing as having a story about Hercules but claiming that there is no Greek pantheon. You could but no he's no longer half god and you really can't add mythical creatures.

I didn't know about TokyoPop either.

If you want to see an example of how they change their translations for western audiences you can probably find the original DMC3 manga translation from Devil's Lair and compare it to the TokyoPop.
The two examples that I remember most clearly are when Arkham approaches Vergil in the book. There, Arkham tells him about the story of Sparda and Vergil responds something to the effect of 'leave me alone' while in the TokyoPop I think he says 'yeah, great story, can't wait for the movie.' The other is when rabbit tells Dante he wants to buy his amulet and will pay any price. Dante pretty much says 'no, thank you' and in the TokyoPop translation he says 'and I want a smaller d**k. I guess we're both ass out of luck.'

Itsuno made a mess of the DMC story so he isn't the most reliable source.

Yeah... Something I've complained about, repeatedly, is how the DMC canon is so jagged. What was an establish lore in one game gets tossed out as soon as it becomes inconvenient in the next game. I've also mentioned how the fans seem to have more attachment to the lore than the developers do since they throw everything and anything out on a whim. Because this is how they treat the canon nothing is concrete. Itsuno changed so much of DMC to align with DmC because he made friends with NT and he loved the work they did in that game, even if it made no sense or was never a part of the original canon.