Why I didn't buy the game

[Winterfrost]

I have an older brother who's made fun of me about everything for years!!! He's given me some pretty thick skin. I would probably be wasting my life away if I worried about what people actually thought of the things I like lol. I think it's healthy and funny when people poke fun at each other as long as it doesn't turn into a heated battle.

Then you finally learn to not give a ****!

 

[Sieghart]

lol i never thought that there are actually people who would trash talk you in a store just for a game. If someone did that to me i will not hesitate to humiliate him/her in front of many people.

When i bought the PC version, the clerk told me that it's the last copy out of 10 which is quite surprising in my country. Original copies here tend to be rare and can only be found in high class malls.

 

[Gorbashou]

I feel like I should ask.
What if Capcom were to tell you now that this is officialy a spin-off. a side story,similar to Megaman Battlenetwork.

And that they're just waiting for better devs to become available so they could make a proper DMC5.

Would you be satisfied?

Satisfied with what?
What does this have to do with anything?

I'm finding it very difficult to care about other people's intentions for or against DmC.

Like, honestly, no offence or anything, but I just don't care why people feel the need to come on a platform and verbally justify their feelings. You don't like the game? That's fine. You do like the game? That's fine. You don't have to answer to me or anyone else, so why feel the need to announce it?

Why do you have the need to announce your nonchalant attitude about it all?
I mean, if you really wouldn't care you wouldn't even post and just don't even mind it. But you did post, and saying your opinion about my opinion.
Sounds hypocritical, don't be like that.
You don't care? That's fine. You don't have to answer to me or anyone else, so why feel the need to announce it?


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Going off writing a single thread, coming back with 14 notifications all from this thread. Nice.

Well, I'm happy some actually liked my opinion on the whole matter. And that even though some didn't they still read it. ^^

 

[Winterfrost]

Well, I'm happy some actually liked my opinion on the whole matter. And that even though some didn't they still read it. ^^

Hey, don't look at me! not my fault I'm a tl;dr type!
I'm kidding around.

 

[CheeseKao]

I'm not sure why you needed to create this thread TC but okay. Everything you said is pretty much common knowledge among non-fanboys.

 

[8BitHero]

I'm sorry but the Devil May Cry fanbase has now built up its rep to be one of the worst gaming fandoms out there no matter how they dice it. A general glance at this complaining that's been going on for 2 years will not make anyone think otherwise. The petition to Obama didn't help either and it wasn't even funny enough to be a joke, it was sad. If gamers truly want their hobby to be acknowledged as if they are a body then that doesn't help the case to prove not all gamers are just a bunch of losers now does it? Couldn't believe that crap man. And it's a goddamn shame because DmC is not bad at all. They might be a little more justified if they game they hate so much actually you know, sucked. Thing is, it doesn't. It's actually good.

Oh man would you get a massive "kick" out of reading the comments on my YouTube haha. A lot is BS but I admit, messing around with them is funny as hell. Heck, even the OP of this thread is someone I'd put in that category.

BS to that story as well. It's actually good you didn't strike back since it'd probably be some news story about "DmC supporters are violent" etc etc.

Satisfied with what?
What does this have to do with anything?

Basically, if you were given white hair Dante back and made DMC5, would you be satisfied?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

lol i never thought that there are actually people who would trash talk you in a store just for a game. If someone did that to me i will not hesitate to humiliate him/her in front of many people.

Oh, people like that certainly exist. In my store I've had staunch supporters of one console or another actively badmouth other people purchasing items for the "enemy console." There's this weird seed that gets into some gamers, and it just turns them into dickholes all-around sometimes :/ I literally cringed when a guy made fun of another guy picking up CoD on 360 saying "Xbox!? The thing can't even Red Ring right! Are you kidding me?!" I was like "Guy...that's unnecessary, just let him get what he wants without a hassle." *sigh* He was a creeper, too; used to hang around at the store for hours on end doing nothing T_T

Why do you have the need to announce your nonchalant attitude about it all?
I mean, if you really wouldn't care you wouldn't even post and just don't even mind it. But you did post, and saying your opinion about my opinion.
Sounds hypocritical, don't be like that.
You don't care? That's fine. You don't have to answer to me or anyone else, so why feel the need to announce it?

The beginning was just an overall feeling, just like "Man, like what you like and don't what you don't. Nobody can demand an explanation from you one way or another."

However, the rest of it was agreeing with you, talking about how I can understand still wanting to make your voice heard - it's retarded when having a logical and well-thought justification is dwarfed by all the small-minded crap the louder people declare.

To address your original question at the end though, "Why hate on people who didn't buy it?" It's just that sometimes people let others form their opinions, even parroting misinformation, and it's just incredibly dumbfounding to hear and see, y'know? Granted, you've done the utmost in discovering for yourself whether you wanted it or not, but many others don't. I have no problems with someone not wanting the game, but if they're going to spend their time b!tching about it, they should have at least given the final product a try somehow to make their words valid. Like...ChaserTech, he's "meh" on DmC, but he found a way to play the full game. If he hadn't, I'd be much less inclined to listen to what he says about it.

Good on you for your informed decision.

 

[Gorbashou]

The beginning was just an overall feeling, just like "Man, like what you like and don't what you don't. Nobody can demand an explanation from you one way or another."

However, the rest of it was agreeing with you, talking about how I can understand still wanting to make your voice heard - it's retarded when having a logical and well-thought justification is dwarfed by all the small-minded crap the louder people declare.

To address your original question at the end though, "Why hate on people who didn't buy it?" It's just that sometimes people let others form their opinions, even parroting misinformation, and it's just incredibly dumbfounding to hear and see, y'know? Granted, you've done the utmost in discovering for yourself whether you wanted it or not, but many others don't. I have no problems with someone not wanting the game, but if they're going to spend their time b!tching about it, they should have at least given the final product a try somehow to make their words valid. Like...ChaserTech, he's "meh" on DmC, but he found a way to play the full game. If he hadn't, I'd be much less inclined to listen to what he says about it.

Good on you for your informed decision.

I am inclined on hating upon it and I do consistently hate on it. The only thing I don't know about it is some of the gameplay, however alot of it has as said before been seen and I've played the demo to death so I know most of the mechanics of it, but I can't say I've tried all movesets.

The saddest thing about the gameplay in DmC although I haven't played it is how bosses are just "dodge -> hit the weakspot while they don't do anything". Oh well, maybe not the last boss, but I found even that as a predictable boss that just had to wait up before doing anything, being way too slow with performing the attacks.
Color coded enemies are literally locks on the system as well, a game about heavy comboing and variety of moves to be used instantly turns into "Slam the enemy with angelic/demonic weapons repeatedly until they die".
Some enemies even have restricting ways to kill them in, yeah, I know that's the way in other DMC games as well. This is one part I can't comment much on since I only know that I can stylishly kill everything in previous DMC games even with the restrictions, but I haven't actually tried on these enemies yet since I haven't played the game fully.

Some of the soundtrack is good in my opinion, and this can just be entirely opinionated anyway so that doesn't really matter.
The landscape design is amazing, that was the only thing wanting me want to buy the game.
The plot is bare bones just like the rest of the series. But I felt alot more engaging watching through the whole DMC plots on youtube than I felt watching through this one. It's just not interesting, maybe because of the characters are unappealing to me but it's just mediocre. At least you have a goal and a red line of progress in it though, so I can respectfully say that its story is better than DMC2.
The attitude. This is maybe the worst of them all. I can't stand all the "**** you" everywhere. Or how every witty joke from either of them always have to be ruined by an insult like "**** you".
"You're not on the list"
*gets punched and Dante takes the list*
*instead of Dante writing his name and creating a really damn fun moment in the game he writes "**** you" and says "I am now"*

Spoiler alert for any people who read DmC discussions while haven't completed the game.
The first thing that caught me was how out of the blue the last battle was. Yes Vergil had shown some of his unfair judgement, but leaving the rest of mankind hanging by wanting to save one chick? That's irrational and Vergil knew that.
Vergil wanted to rule to protect mankind, he saw himself above them because he is. It's like a big person being bigger than a small person. He has power, and he wants to use that power to protect.
But Dante is like "woah woah woah, duuuuuude, I thought we were going for anarchy here." instantly dismissing the whole point that Vergil wants to protect and only sees him as a tyrant.
There are more subtle hints of Vergil thinking low of mankind through the plot I know, and there's a little more to it than that. But it still feels as if they pulled that fight right out of their butt.
End of spoilers

Then the cream topping is what they do to a franchise I love. DMC is literally the only hack and slash franchise I enjoy, the others are just bad in my eyes. And no matter what I can never judge DmC as a standalone game since it has a legacy to follow, and from everything I've read and seen it isn't following it up except for the shallow story.
I hate that they rebooted the game, why? Because I felt like I played as a witty badass who cracked jokes and was chill with everything, but being able to be a serious and a somewhat developed character anyway.
This feeling never really happens with the character in DmC. I am playing as a dude, who swears alot and destroys even his best moments to be witty, who never makes me laugh in any of the scenes, who doesn't make me feel like he's a badass.
Styles, witty badass, extremely deep combat with alot of secrets and techniques while still being easy to learn. While on the other hand DmC seems to be about slamming down enemies with some moves, or use a move that just blasts up style. Demonic dodge + a strong attack on a group or maybe you like to just spam drive on the enemies.
These things were kind of existing in previous DMC games but not as they are in DmC. If I want to make a beejesus strong attack on a boss and kill it epicly I have to get an opening, and openings doesn't just open up and stay open very often like in DmC where you have to wait for greater openings all the time.

I can show several videos of stylishly killing everything in DMC3 or DMC4. This can't be said about DmC, some say it's too early then I'd say it's too early for it warrant a buy because I don't see enough of the combat system to enjoy it.

In the end, I don't want DmC to suceed, it has been like a bully, interviews and whatnot, and it just likes to slap fans of the previous series in the face. Would you want a bully to suceed? I wouldn't.
People stating "You are just making them scrap the series altogether" I say I don't care. If I dislike something I like to show it, the same as with many here who likes it want to express how they do like it. Capcom decides if they want to destroy the series or not, I don't make any judgement call, I am just here voicing my opinion. If I'd make the judgements, the DMC5 would already be in development. But now I can just say "Hey Capcom, I think I actually didn't like this one." as I'm entitled to do, I don't want to see a sequel of it happening at all, and DMC is probably dead now anyway. If there are more people liking it who voices their opinion, then Capcom will see that, if there aren't, Capcom will see that too.
You can't blame a system that relies on people just voicing their opinions, since it is fair anyway. If you are on the losing side, you simply are the minority, nothing more you can do about it.

This game not only leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, it makes sure to slap me while it is at it as well.
As a game, DmC is probably a 6/10 in my eyes. No, I don't rate like modern reviewers does does so 6/10 is an above mediocre game.
But if I judge what kind of game it is, I don't even want to rate it, because it's done so much to throw dirt at the legacy of DMC and it hasn't exactly shown that it is superior. It's awful, and I only look at and read peoples opinions about it, pros and antis alike, so I can know even more about what kind of a game it is.

Bleh, wrote too much, sorry.

 

[Winterfrost]

I am inclined on hating upon it and I do consistently hate on it. The only thing I don't know about it is some of the gameplay, however alot of it has as said before been seen and I've played the demo to death so I know most of the mechanics of it, but I can't say I've tried all movesets.

The saddest thing about the gameplay in DmC although I haven't played it is how bosses are just "dodge -> hit the weakspot while they don't do anything". Oh well, maybe not the last boss, but I found even that as a predictable boss that just had to wait up before doing anything, being way too slow with performing the attacks.
Color coded enemies are literally locks on the system as well, a game about heavy comboing and variety of moves to be used instantly turns into "Slam the enemy with angelic/demonic weapons repeatedly until they die".
Some enemies even have restricting ways to kill them in, yeah, I know that's the way in other DMC games as well. This is one part I can't comment much on since I only know that I can stylishly kill everything in previous DMC games even with the restrictions, but I haven't actually tried on these enemies yet since I haven't played the game fully.

Some of the soundtrack is good in my opinion, and this can just be entirely opinionated anyway so that doesn't really matter.
The landscape design is amazing, that was the only thing wanting me want to buy the game.
The plot is bare bones just like the rest of the series. But I felt alot more engaging watching through the whole DMC plots on youtube than I felt watching through this one. It's just not interesting, maybe because of the characters are unappealing to me but it's just mediocre. At least you have a goal and a red line of progress in it though, so I can respectfully say that its story is better than DMC2.
The attitude. This is maybe the worst of them all. I can't stand all the "**** you" everywhere. Or how every witty joke from either of them always have to be ruined by an insult like "**** you".
"You're not on the list"
*gets punched and Dante takes the list*
*instead of Dante writing his name and creating a really damn fun moment in the game he writes "**** you" and says "I am now"*

Spoiler alert for any people who read DmC discussions while haven't completed the game.
The first thing that caught me was how out of the blue the last battle was. Yes Vergil had shown some of his unfair judgement, but leaving the rest of mankind hanging by wanting to save one chick? That's irrational and Vergil knew that.
Vergil wanted to rule to protect mankind, he saw himself above them because he is. It's like a big person being bigger than a small person. He has power, and he wants to use that power to protect.
But Dante is like "woah woah woah, duuuuuude, I thought we were going for anarchy here." instantly dismissing the whole point that Vergil wants to protect and only sees him as a tyrant.
There are more subtle hints of Vergil thinking low of mankind through the plot I know, and there's a little more to it than that. But it still feels as if they pulled that fight right out of their butt.
End of spoilers

Then the cream topping is what they do to a franchise I love. DMC is literally the only hack and slash franchise I enjoy, the others are just bad in my eyes. And no matter what I can never judge DmC as a standalone game since it has a legacy to follow, and from everything I've read and seen it isn't following it up except for the shallow story.
I hate that they rebooted the game, why? Because I felt like I played as a witty badass who cracked jokes and was chill with everything, but being able to be a serious and a somewhat developed character anyway.
This feeling never really happens with the character in DmC. I am playing as a dude, who swears alot and destroys even his best moments to be witty, who never makes me laugh in any of the scenes, who doesn't make me feel like he's a badass.
Styles, witty badass, extremely deep combat with alot of secrets and techniques while still being easy to learn. While on the other hand DmC seems to be about slamming down enemies with some moves, or use a move that just blasts up style. Demonic dodge + a strong attack on a group or maybe you like to just spam drive on the enemies.
These things were kind of existing in previous DMC games but not as they are in DmC. If I want to make a beejesus strong attack on a boss and kill it epicly I have to get an opening, and openings doesn't just open up and stay open very often like in DmC where you have to wait for greater openings all the time.

I can show several videos of stylishly killing everything in DMC3 or DMC4. This can't be said about DmC, some say it's too early then I'd say it's too early for it warrant a buy because I don't see enough of the combat system to enjoy it.

In the end, I don't want DmC to suceed, it has been like a bully, interviews and whatnot, and it just likes to slap fans of the previous series in the face. Would you want a bully to suceed? I wouldn't.
People stating "You are just making them scrap the series altogether" I say I don't care. If I dislike something I like to show it, the same as with many here who likes it want to express how they do like it. Capcom decides if they want to destroy the series or not, I don't make any judgement call, I am just here voicing my opinion. If I'd make the judgements, the DMC5 would already be in development. But now I can just say "Hey Capcom, I think I actually didn't like this one." as I'm entitled to do, I don't want to see a sequel of it happening at all, and DMC is probably dead now anyway. If there are more people liking it who voices their opinion, then Capcom will see that, if there aren't, Capcom will see that too.
You can't blame a system that relies on people just voicing their opinions, since it is fair anyway. If you are on the losing side, you simply are the minority, nothing more you can do about it.

This game not only leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, it makes sure to slap me while it is at it as well.
As a game, DmC is probably a 6/10 in my eyes. No, I don't rate like modern reviewers does does so 6/10 is an above mediocre game.
But if I judge what kind of game it is, I don't even want to rate it, because it's done so much to throw dirt at the legacy of DMC and it hasn't exactly shown that it is superior. It's awful, and I only look at and read peoples opinions about it, pros and antis alike, so I can know even more about what kind of a game it is.

Bleh, wrote too much, sorry.

Well, that's how you feel..can't change a persons opinions or feelings no matter what you do..after all we are human.
Also, just a little warning: run..run while you still can..DmC defenders are coming after you right now as we speak.
sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person on here who loves both, but doesn't yell at people for liking one or the other. Apparently people have heard of opinions...or actual logical debating instead of yelling at each other. Trust me when I say this, the DmC community isn't as bad as you see it is now...I've watched and spectated both sides and there are a lot of people who make one fan base look worse than the other, you see? Hell, I get along just fine with Terr, in fact he is one of my best buds on here but we don't hate each other for liking one or the other. I guess what I'm trying to say is, not all of us are bad..some like me are just here to provide happiness and laughter throughout all the hate. this place is practically Iraq.
Edit: spoke too soon.

 

[Chancey289]

I am inclined on hating upon it and I do consistently hate on it. The only thing I don't know about it is some of the gameplay, however alot of it has as said before been seen and I've played the demo to death so I know most of the mechanics of it, but I can't say I've tried all movesets.

The saddest thing about the gameplay in DmC although I haven't played it is how bosses are just "dodge -> hit the weakspot while they don't do anything". Oh well, maybe not the last boss, but I found even that as a predictable boss that just had to wait up before doing anything, being way too slow with performing the attacks.
Color coded enemies are literally locks on the system as well, a game about heavy comboing and variety of moves to be used instantly turns into "Slam the enemy with angelic/demonic weapons repeatedly until they die".
Some enemies even have restricting ways to kill them in, yeah, I know that's the way in other DMC games as well. This is one part I can't comment much on since I only know that I can stylishly kill everything in previous DMC games even with the restrictions, but I haven't actually tried on these enemies yet since I haven't played the game fully.

Some of the soundtrack is good in my opinion, and this can just be entirely opinionated anyway so that doesn't really matter.
The landscape design is amazing, that was the only thing wanting me want to buy the game.
The plot is bare bones just like the rest of the series. But I felt alot more engaging watching through the whole DMC plots on youtube than I felt watching through this one. It's just not interesting, maybe because of the characters are unappealing to me but it's just mediocre. At least you have a goal and a red line of progress in it though, so I can respectfully say that its story is better than DMC2.
The attitude. This is maybe the worst of them all. I can't stand all the "**** you" everywhere. Or how every witty joke from either of them always have to be ruined by an insult like "**** you".
"You're not on the list"
*gets punched and Dante takes the list*
*instead of Dante writing his name and creating a really damn fun moment in the game he writes "**** you" and says "I am now"*

Spoiler alert for any people who read DmC discussions while haven't completed the game.
The first thing that caught me was how out of the blue the last battle was. Yes Vergil had shown some of his unfair judgement, but leaving the rest of mankind hanging by wanting to save one chick? That's irrational and Vergil knew that.
Vergil wanted to rule to protect mankind, he saw himself above them because he is. It's like a big person being bigger than a small person. He has power, and he wants to use that power to protect.
But Dante is like "woah woah woah, duuuuuude, I thought we were going for anarchy here." instantly dismissing the whole point that Vergil wants to protect and only sees him as a tyrant.
There are more subtle hints of Vergil thinking low of mankind through the plot I know, and there's a little more to it than that. But it still feels as if they pulled that fight right out of their butt.
End of spoilers

Then the cream topping is what they do to a franchise I love. DMC is literally the only hack and slash franchise I enjoy, the others are just bad in my eyes. And no matter what I can never judge DmC as a standalone game since it has a legacy to follow, and from everything I've read and seen it isn't following it up except for the shallow story.
I hate that they rebooted the game, why? Because I felt like I played as a witty badass who cracked jokes and was chill with everything, but being able to be a serious and a somewhat developed character anyway.
This feeling never really happens with the character in DmC. I am playing as a dude, who swears alot and destroys even his best moments to be witty, who never makes me laugh in any of the scenes, who doesn't make me feel like he's a badass.
Styles, witty badass, extremely deep combat with alot of secrets and techniques while still being easy to learn. While on the other hand DmC seems to be about slamming down enemies with some moves, or use a move that just blasts up style. Demonic dodge + a strong attack on a group or maybe you like to just spam drive on the enemies.
These things were kind of existing in previous DMC games but not as they are in DmC. If I want to make a beejesus strong attack on a boss and kill it epicly I have to get an opening, and openings doesn't just open up and stay open very often like in DmC where you have to wait for greater openings all the time.

I can show several videos of stylishly killing everything in DMC3 or DMC4. This can't be said about DmC, some say it's too early then I'd say it's too early for it warrant a buy because I don't see enough of the combat system to enjoy it.

In the end, I don't want DmC to suceed, it has been like a bully, interviews and whatnot, and it just likes to slap fans of the previous series in the face. Would you want a bully to suceed? I wouldn't.
People stating "You are just making them scrap the series altogether" I say I don't care. If I dislike something I like to show it, the same as with many here who likes it want to express how they do like it. Capcom decides if they want to destroy the series or not, I don't make any judgement call, I am just here voicing my opinion. If I'd make the judgements, the DMC5 would already be in development. But now I can just say "Hey Capcom, I think I actually didn't like this one." as I'm entitled to do, I don't want to see a sequel of it happening at all, and DMC is probably dead now anyway. If there are more people liking it who voices their opinion, then Capcom will see that, if there aren't, Capcom will see that too.
You can't blame a system that relies on people just voicing their opinions, since it is fair anyway. If you are on the losing side, you simply are the minority, nothing more you can do about it.

This game not only leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, it makes sure to slap me while it is at it as well.
As a game, DmC is probably a 6/10 in my eyes. No, I don't rate like modern reviewers does does so 6/10 is an above mediocre game.
But if I judge what kind of game it is, I don't even want to rate it, because it's done so much to throw dirt at the legacy of DMC and it hasn't exactly shown that it is superior. It's awful, and I only look at and read peoples opinions about it, pros and antis alike, so I can know even more about what kind of a game it is.

Bleh, wrote too much, sorry.

The demo does not justify the full product. It was an early version of the game and you notice very drastic differences between the Under Watch you played to the Under Watch other people experienced in the final product. Especially since you're only given 3 weapons to play with only in the demo. Quite frankly, you don't understand enough about the game to know the mechanics in depth. DmC is a hell of a game that's no less deep than its predecessors with more than enough streamline combos to tickle your fancy and leaving enough room to experiment and play in a less methodical manner. Make up your own opinions because this thread is silly to begin with.

 

[ZeroLove]

I am inclined on hating upon it and I do consistently hate on it. The only thing I don't know about it is some of the gameplay, however alot of it has as said before been seen and I've played the demo to death so I know most of the mechanics of it, but I can't say I've tried all movesets.

The saddest thing about the gameplay in DmC although I haven't played it is how bosses are just "dodge -> hit the weakspot while they don't do anything". Oh well, maybe not the last boss, but I found even that as a predictable boss that just had to wait up before doing anything, being way too slow with performing the attacks.
Color coded enemies are literally locks on the system as well, a game about heavy comboing and variety of moves to be used instantly turns into "Slam the enemy with angelic/demonic weapons repeatedly until they die".
Some enemies even have restricting ways to kill them in, yeah, I know that's the way in other DMC games as well. This is one part I can't comment much on since I only know that I can stylishly kill everything in previous DMC games even with the restrictions, but I haven't actually tried on these enemies yet since I haven't played the game fully.

Some of the soundtrack is good in my opinion, and this can just be entirely opinionated anyway so that doesn't really matter.
The landscape design is amazing, that was the only thing wanting me want to buy the game.
The plot is bare bones just like the rest of the series. But I felt alot more engaging watching through the whole DMC plots on youtube than I felt watching through this one. It's just not interesting, maybe because of the characters are unappealing to me but it's just mediocre. At least you have a goal and a red line of progress in it though, so I can respectfully say that its story is better than DMC2.
The attitude. This is maybe the worst of them all. I can't stand all the "**** you" everywhere. Or how every witty joke from either of them always have to be ruined by an insult like "**** you".
"You're not on the list"
*gets punched and Dante takes the list*
*instead of Dante writing his name and creating a really damn fun moment in the game he writes "**** you" and says "I am now"*

Spoiler alert for any people who read DmC discussions while haven't completed the game.
The first thing that caught me was how out of the blue the last battle was. Yes Vergil had shown some of his unfair judgement, but leaving the rest of mankind hanging by wanting to save one chick? That's irrational and Vergil knew that.
Vergil wanted to rule to protect mankind, he saw himself above them because he is. It's like a big person being bigger than a small person. He has power, and he wants to use that power to protect.
But Dante is like "woah woah woah, duuuuuude, I thought we were going for anarchy here." instantly dismissing the whole point that Vergil wants to protect and only sees him as a tyrant.
There are more subtle hints of Vergil thinking low of mankind through the plot I know, and there's a little more to it than that. But it still feels as if they pulled that fight right out of their butt.
End of spoilers

Then the cream topping is what they do to a franchise I love. DMC is literally the only hack and slash franchise I enjoy, the others are just bad in my eyes. And no matter what I can never judge DmC as a standalone game since it has a legacy to follow, and from everything I've read and seen it isn't following it up except for the shallow story.
I hate that they rebooted the game, why? Because I felt like I played as a witty badass who cracked jokes and was chill with everything, but being able to be a serious and a somewhat developed character anyway.
This feeling never really happens with the character in DmC. I am playing as a dude, who swears alot and destroys even his best moments to be witty, who never makes me laugh in any of the scenes, who doesn't make me feel like he's a badass.
Styles, witty badass, extremely deep combat with alot of secrets and techniques while still being easy to learn. While on the other hand DmC seems to be about slamming down enemies with some moves, or use a move that just blasts up style. Demonic dodge + a strong attack on a group or maybe you like to just spam drive on the enemies.
These things were kind of existing in previous DMC games but not as they are in DmC. If I want to make a beejesus strong attack on a boss and kill it epicly I have to get an opening, and openings doesn't just open up and stay open very often like in DmC where you have to wait for greater openings all the time.

I can show several videos of stylishly killing everything in DMC3 or DMC4. This can't be said about DmC, some say it's too early then I'd say it's too early for it warrant a buy because I don't see enough of the combat system to enjoy it.

In the end, I don't want DmC to suceed, it has been like a bully, interviews and whatnot, and it just likes to slap fans of the previous series in the face. Would you want a bully to suceed? I wouldn't.
People stating "You are just making them scrap the series altogether" I say I don't care. If I dislike something I like to show it, the same as with many here who likes it want to express how they do like it. Capcom decides if they want to destroy the series or not, I don't make any judgement call, I am just here voicing my opinion. If I'd make the judgements, the DMC5 would already be in development. But now I can just say "Hey Capcom, I think I actually didn't like this one." as I'm entitled to do, I don't want to see a sequel of it happening at all, and DMC is probably dead now anyway. If there are more people liking it who voices their opinion, then Capcom will see that, if there aren't, Capcom will see that too.
You can't blame a system that relies on people just voicing their opinions, since it is fair anyway. If you are on the losing side, you simply are the minority, nothing more you can do about it.

This game not only leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, it makes sure to slap me while it is at it as well.
As a game, DmC is probably a 6/10 in my eyes. No, I don't rate like modern reviewers does does so 6/10 is an above mediocre game.
But if I judge what kind of game it is, I don't even want to rate it, because it's done so much to throw dirt at the legacy of DMC and it hasn't exactly shown that it is superior. It's awful, and I only look at and read peoples opinions about it, pros and antis alike, so I can know even more about what kind of a game it is.

Bleh, wrote too much, sorry.

I respect your opinion. You don't like it, that's cool, you've explained your reasoning and I can respect that.
What I don't respect is that you consistently hate on it and even openly admits it as if it would be a good thing to do. Why not just move on with your life? Is it really that big a deal to you, is it really that huge a part of your life, that you feel the need to throw your hate at the game over and over again?

I mean, I have already in a few threads established that I like the game and given my reasons to why that is... But I don't continue to fill every thread with "I like DmC!" comments. I want to be able to discuss different aspects of the game with you guys, but these threads about each individual opinion about the game, wether you like it or not, is just getting tiresome and it usually just ends up in unnecessary conflict.

Also, since you haven't played the game, you aren't really qualified to rate it... but I know that won't really stop any of you who haven't played it.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

I'm sorry but the Devil May Cry fanbase has now built up its rep to be one of the worst gaming fandoms out there no matter how they dice it. A general glance at this complaining that's been going on for 2 years will not make anyone think otherwise. The petition to Obama didn't help either and it wasn't even funny enough to be a joke, it was sad.

What....did I just read? :blink: Who did a what now?
I always miss the good stuff

 

[Dante's Stalker]

Double post, sorry, I stuffed up.

I am inclined on hating upon it and I do consistently hate on it. The only thing I don't know about it is some of the gameplay, however alot of it has as said before been seen and I've played the demo to death so I know most of the mechanics of it, but I can't say I've tried all movesets.

The saddest thing about the gameplay in DmC although I haven't played it is how bosses are just "dodge -> hit the weakspot while they don't do anything". Oh well, maybe not the last boss, but I found even that as a predictable boss that just had to wait up before doing anything, being way too slow with performing the attacks.
Color coded enemies are literally locks on the system as well, a game about heavy comboing and variety of moves to be used instantly turns into "Slam the enemy with angelic/demonic weapons repeatedly until they die".
Some enemies even have restricting ways to kill them in, yeah, I know that's the way in other DMC games as well. This is one part I can't comment much on since I only know that I can stylishly kill everything in previous DMC games even with the restrictions, but I haven't actually tried on these enemies yet since I haven't played the game fully.

Some of the soundtrack is good in my opinion, and this can just be entirely opinionated anyway so that doesn't really matter.
The landscape design is amazing, that was the only thing wanting me want to buy the game.
The plot is bare bones just like the rest of the series. But I felt alot more engaging watching through the whole DMC plots on youtube than I felt watching through this one. It's just not interesting, maybe because of the characters are unappealing to me but it's just mediocre. At least you have a goal and a red line of progress in it though, so I can respectfully say that its story is better than DMC2.
The attitude. This is maybe the worst of them all. I can't stand all the "**** you" everywhere. Or how every witty joke from either of them always have to be ruined by an insult like "**** you".
"You're not on the list"
*gets punched and Dante takes the list*
*instead of Dante writing his name and creating a really damn fun moment in the game he writes "**** you" and says "I am now"*

Spoiler alert for any people who read DmC discussions while haven't completed the game.
The first thing that caught me was how out of the blue the last battle was. Yes Vergil had shown some of his unfair judgement, but leaving the rest of mankind hanging by wanting to save one chick? That's irrational and Vergil knew that.
Vergil wanted to rule to protect mankind, he saw himself above them because he is. It's like a big person being bigger than a small person. He has power, and he wants to use that power to protect.
But Dante is like "woah woah woah, duuuuuude, I thought we were going for anarchy here." instantly dismissing the whole point that Vergil wants to protect and only sees him as a tyrant.
There are more subtle hints of Vergil thinking low of mankind through the plot I know, and there's a little more to it than that. But it still feels as if they pulled that fight right out of their butt.
End of spoilers

Then the cream topping is what they do to a franchise I love. DMC is literally the only hack and slash franchise I enjoy, the others are just bad in my eyes. And no matter what I can never judge DmC as a standalone game since it has a legacy to follow, and from everything I've read and seen it isn't following it up except for the shallow story.
I hate that they rebooted the game, why? Because I felt like I played as a witty badass who cracked jokes and was chill with everything, but being able to be a serious and a somewhat developed character anyway.
This feeling never really happens with the character in DmC. I am playing as a dude, who swears alot and destroys even his best moments to be witty, who never makes me laugh in any of the scenes, who doesn't make me feel like he's a badass.
Styles, witty badass, extremely deep combat with alot of secrets and techniques while still being easy to learn. While on the other hand DmC seems to be about slamming down enemies with some moves, or use a move that just blasts up style. Demonic dodge + a strong attack on a group or maybe you like to just spam drive on the enemies.
These things were kind of existing in previous DMC games but not as they are in DmC. If I want to make a beejesus strong attack on a boss and kill it epicly I have to get an opening, and openings doesn't just open up and stay open very often like in DmC where you have to wait for greater openings all the time.

I can show several videos of stylishly killing everything in DMC3 or DMC4. This can't be said about DmC, some say it's too early then I'd say it's too early for it warrant a buy because I don't see enough of the combat system to enjoy it.

In the end, I don't want DmC to suceed, it has been like a bully, interviews and whatnot, and it just likes to slap fans of the previous series in the face. Would you want a bully to suceed? I wouldn't.
People stating "You are just making them scrap the series altogether" I say I don't care. If I dislike something I like to show it, the same as with many here who likes it want to express how they do like it. Capcom decides if they want to destroy the series or not, I don't make any judgement call, I am just here voicing my opinion. If I'd make the judgements, the DMC5 would already be in development. But now I can just say "Hey Capcom, I think I actually didn't like this one." as I'm entitled to do, I don't want to see a sequel of it happening at all, and DMC is probably dead now anyway. If there are more people liking it who voices their opinion, then Capcom will see that, if there aren't, Capcom will see that too.
You can't blame a system that relies on people just voicing their opinions, since it is fair anyway. If you are on the losing side, you simply are the minority, nothing more you can do about it.

This game not only leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, it makes sure to slap me while it is at it as well.
As a game, DmC is probably a 6/10 in my eyes. No, I don't rate like modern reviewers does does so 6/10 is an above mediocre game.
But if I judge what kind of game it is, I don't even want to rate it, because it's done so much to throw dirt at the legacy of DMC and it hasn't exactly shown that it is superior. It's awful, and I only look at and read peoples opinions about it, pros and antis alike, so I can know even more about what kind of a game it is.

Bleh, wrote too much, sorry.

1 - you're entitled to your opinion, 2 - your opinion is sound.
And this is coming from a DmC supporter, btw.

 

[Winterfrost]

What....did I just read? :blink: Who did a what now?
I always miss the good stuff

Someone petitioned for it to be removed. :l same thing happened with ME3 ending if I recall.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

Someone petitioned for it to be removed. :l same thing happened with ME3 ending if I recall.

I'm so conflicted about this. Part of me wants to laugh, another part of me wants to *headdesk*, and yet another part of me wants to go toiletpaper the homes of the geniuses who came up with this 'solution'.

 

[ZeroLove]

I'm so conflicted about this. Part of me wants to laugh, another part of me wants to *headdesk*, and yet another part of me wants to go toiletpaper the homes of the geniuses who came up with this 'solution'.

I know right?! To think they actually thought it would be worth the President's time to take off DmC from the shelves. XD
I just found it hilarious how incredibly idiotic it was.

 

[Gorbashou]

The demo does not justify the full product. It was an early version of the game and you notice very drastic differences between the Under Watch you played to the Under Watch other people experienced in the final product. Especially since you're only given 3 weapons to play with only in the demo. Quite frankly, you don't understand enough about the game to know the mechanics in depth. DmC is a hell of a game that's no less deep than its predecessors with more than enough streamline combos to tickle your fancy and leaving enough room to experiment and play in a less methodical manner. Make up your own opinions because this thread is silly to begin with.

I respect your opinion. You don't like it, that's cool, you've explained your reasoning and I can respect that.
What I don't respect is that you consistently hate on it and even openly admits it as if it would be a good thing to do. Why not just move on with your life? Is it really that big a deal to you, is it really that huge a part of your life, that you feel the need to throw your hate at the game over and over again?

I mean, I have already in a few threads established that I like the game and given my reasons to why that is... But I don't continue to fill every thread with "I like DmC!" comments. I want to be able to discuss different aspects of the game with you guys, but these threads about each individual opinion about the game, wether you like it or not, is just getting tiresome and it usually just ends up in unnecessary conflict.

Also, since you haven't played the game, you aren't really qualified to rate it... but I know that won't really stop any of you who haven't played it.

Read the post. It's alot more than the gameplay I touch as well.
And I'm pretty damn qualified to rate it, and hate it. I've explained why I hate the game and I will continue. Why don't you move on then? I mean, you like the game, just get on with it and don't post about it?
The realisation that this game made a huge impact on a big part of my interests, I will talk about it and my side of it as I please. I do not offend anyone and I am just stating my opinion as you state yours. Don't test me with continously saying "move on".

I'm not qualified to rate it? How come? You may think I'm not, but that is completely opinionated.
I can judge a movie without having seen it, but I've read about every plot detail and things that happen in it from several people, making my judgement final in many peoples eyes.

If you are here to just state how pointless you think peoples right to say what they think is and how they aren't eligible to say that, then I'd want to remind you that the fact that you complain about it is all fine and dandy, but that you are wanting me to not say it isn't. Freedom of expression, you can express your dislike and I can express my opinion, but you cannot say I'm not eligible to say as I want or try to surpress it. I'm pretty sure that this server is from the UK (it is, right?) meaning it follows the laws of freedom of expression from there.
It is lawbreaking to try to surpress opinions such as these. So don't, if you really dislike this, then you can express your dislike, but do not say I shouldn't do what I have a right to do and don't just pop up with en excuse to why I do what I do, say that I waste my time, or whatever.
I do this for reasons I've established, and I dislike how you put in another reason combined with "useless" all the time.
It is really aggravating and you aren't proving that you are the better side in this discussion.
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Edit: @Dante's Stalker: I know exactly who it comes from. ^^

 

[CheeseKao]

If you are here to just state how pointless you think peoples right to say what they think is and how they aren't eligible to say that, then I'd want to remind you that the fact that you complain about it is all fine and dandy, but that you are wanting me to not say it isn't. Freedom of expression, you can express your dislike and I can express my opinion, but you cannot say I'm not eligible to say as I want or try to surpress it. I'm pretty sure that this server is from the UK (it is, right?) meaning it follows the laws of freedom of expression from there.
It is lawbreaking to try to surpress opinions such as these. So don't, if you really dislike this, then you can express your dislike, but do not say I shouldn't do what I have a right to do and don't just pop up with en excuse to why I do what I do, say that I waste my time, or whatever.
I do this for reasons I've established, and I dislike how you put in another reason combined with "useless" all the time.
It is really aggravating and you aren't proving that you are the better side in this discussion.
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Edit: @Dante's Stalker: I know exactly who it comes from. ^^

Almost everyone has the freedom to say whatever they want(I don't but whatever) but everything has its repercussions. You yourself are a hypocrite by not allowing Zerolove the freedom of speech by saying "do not say I shouldn't do what I have a right to do and don't just pop up with en excuse to why I do what I do, say that I waste my time, or whatever." That is the very definition of suppressing one's freedom of speech. He can say whatever the hell he/she wants and so can you but both of you aren't necessarily right or wrong. Just because one has the right to do something doesn't mean one should flaunt that right like you did.

For example: You come across a fat woman. You have every right to call fat or any other synonym of it but, unless you're a prick, does that mean you should?

 

[Gorbashou]

Almost everyone has the freedom to say whatever they want(I don't but whatever) but everything has its repercussions. You yourself are a hypocrite by not allowing Zerolove the freedom of speech by saying "do not say I shouldn't do what I have a right to do and don't just pop up with en excuse to why I do what I do, say that I waste my time, or whatever." That is the very definition of suppressing one's freedom of speech. He can say whatever the hell he/she wants and so can you but both of you aren't necessarily right or wrong. Just because one has the right to do something doesn't mean one should flaunt that right like you did.

Read the law. You can say whatever you want as long as you aren't surpressing someone elses freedom of speech which is exactly what he is trying.

So please, don't.

 

[CheeseKao]

Read the law. You can say whatever you want as long as you aren't surpressing someone elses freedom of speech which is exactly what he is trying.

So please, don't.

And so are you. Telling someone what he/she can and can not say is suppressing one's freedom of speech. Telling someone what he/she should and shouldn't say is NOT suppressing one's freedom of speech. Try again.