What to expect from the future

[LordOfDarkness]

What can we as fans of Devil May Cry, expect from the future of the Series? Considering the Reboot explaining more of Dante's origins, where do you think it will go afterwards?

Do you want them to scrap the other games and continue with DmC? Completely starting afresh. Or would you like them to continue with DmC, but tie up loose ends in DMC?

The way I see it is as the following. With the Reboot, they are taking a step back and looking at Dante again. They are redesigning his image and his character. This is all due to it being set before Devil May Cry Three. But what does this really tell us? I mean, think about. They are saying this is before 3, explaining how Dante became the Dante we know today. So, if they really are linking DmC with DMC, then why the change of name to DmC? What was so offensive with the M being a capital still? Or is this just because they think it looks cool? I mean, fine, who really cares right? I mean, if DmC is still related to DMC, then they are brother and brother. Kind of like Vergil and Dante. They have a bit of rivalry against each other, but there's a lot of unsaid feelings lying way down there.

Follow what I am saying here for a minute, because I know I am rambling at the moment. But like grabbing an orange and grasping it really hard, you're bound to squeeze some sense out of me soon. DmC explains Dante, but so far, nothing else. Would you want it to explain the origins of Nero and Vergil as well?

If you think about it, yeah, Dante didn't need styling again. But we can brush looks aside, if they are going to clear up the story. Maybe they didn't just scrap everything that went before, but merely, put it on hold. And at the moment, when we play DmC as it arrives, we'll constantly hear elevator music playing wherever we go.

I think the Reboot is needed, and here is why. It gives them time. Time to do what? Create a new style for Nero and Vergil also, and set them before the other games? Yeah, why not. That would actually be an awesome idea. No, not time to redesign anything else. But merely, time to expand of the DMC-DmC Franchise they've created here.

They made a smart move. All things considered, if they had continued with Devil May Cry, we would of got some stupid explanation as to what was going on with everything. Nero would be the third son of Sparda, and also Vergil's dad, in some ridiculous twist. Dante would of got killed off by a vengeful Vergil, returning to cause mayhem. And Vergil would of been transformed into a metallic duck, who quacks at everything. But seriously, we would of got some really rubbish answers. I mean, they aren't good at answers. They would of quacked under pressure (No pun from my previous duck comment, honest). They would of buckled under pressure from fans to deliver.

They have got bad reception, but they have given themselves time to plan. A chance to come back at DMC's story and redeem themselves.

So yeah, I want DmC to continue how it is. I would like to also see the game after be DmC 2, where they explain Nero and Vergil maybe (If they don't in DmC) And then when they have everything explained for us, kick us back into the DMC World that we are at now, and continue with a final game. Therefore, resulting in a lovely ending, where we get answers and an ultimate conclusion.

DmC is DMC. They haven't changed anything. It's just a smart move to gain them more space for planning. A very smart move, may I add.

But what do you want to see come out of all of this in the end? =/

 

[Meg]

Very well put, LoD. However I'm gonna disagree with you. I don't think a reboot/prequel/whatever this is is the way to go. DMC3 explained Dante's origins. If anything this is a story leading up to the story of how Dante became Dante. In other words, to me its unnecessary. I don't think handing the series over to NT was a bad idea. I think it was a smart move considering NT is know for being great story tellers. However I don't think a reboot is the way to go. Making sense out of what we have so far isn't hard especially with new eyes looking at it.

 

[Angelo Credo]

Needs moar Vergil.
That is all.

 

[SpawnShooter]

lol, i think its funny how after this new game comes out we'll prob get in about a decade or so a prequel to the origin story, leading up to the events that made Dante, Dante i think it will keep going back like this until we have a DMC where Dante is a baby and if they keep with that trend we may get a Sparda game at some point!

 

[Richtofen]

I see where LoD is coming from, a new team to manage DmC and if it works, they may continue on with the original series. If Capcom were to continue the series like they have been it would've turned into more of a wreck than it already is. The reboot was 'needed' to allow NT to get a feel for it instead of barging in headfirst into a game series that really wasn't heading somewhere at all.

It will allow fresh ideas and not to mention, it's letting them stray away from the other DMC games right now so if (or when) they go back to it, they will have better ideas of how to tie up loose ends that are already present. NT will be able to focus on the bigger picture.

I know a lot of people value DMC as it is, but I prefer having a good storyline than a botched up one. By all means, if it has to go down this road to reach it's peak again, I'm all for it as long as they do a great job on getting DMC back on track.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Very well put, LoD. However I'm gonna disagree with you. I don't think a reboot/prequel/whatever this is is the way to go. DMC3 explained Dante's origins. If anything this is a story leading up to the story of how Dante became Dante. In other words, to me its unnecessary. I don't think handing the series over to NT was a bad idea. I think it was a smart move considering NT is know for being great story tellers. However I don't think a reboot is the way to go. Making sense out of what we have so far isn't hard especially with new eyes looking at it.

Thank you, Meg. But Devil May Cry Three didn't explain anything. It didn't clear up Dante's past. It didn't bring him to his earlier teenage years. Dante is meant to be 19 in Devil May Cry Three (So I've heard) I could be wrong. And in the game, he mentioned it had been a year since he had seen his brother Vergil. Now think about it. Look at the new Dante. He looks like what, 17-18 years old or something like that. That's a year prior to Devil May Cry Three. So hang on a second. This could lead us to believe, that if age is to go by; and DmC and DMC are the same as I previously said, then Vergil will be making an appearance in DmC.

Let's see what they are saying here. (From what I can make out) DmC is an origin story, set around a year or so prior to the events of Devil May Cry Three. Explaining how Dante may of got into Demon hunting etc. And explaining what went on with him and Vergil.

We can't just expect Dante to of just done the job. Or expect him to of known how to kill and everything. Dante worked with Vergil before, that much is clear. As made clear at the end of Devil May Cry Three, when Vergil uses Ebony.

I couldn't explain to you right now what went on with those characters before Devil May Cry Three. So don't think of it as a Reboot. A Reboot is the wrong word. They just went with confusing us. They even said they knew they'd get negative feedback. But people are right, it's reverse psychology. They're making us think it's something different, when it isn't. Our minds are going to reject it at first. And with time and more understanding, we'll grow to love it more and more. Ultimately, they will achieve what they wanted to in the end.

 

[Darkstar Darin]

my guess is:
1. A Sparda prequel
2. A Vergil prequel
3. the real DMC 5
4. A Trish and/or Lady spin-off
5. to Hell (n not in a good way...)

 

[Meg]

Thank you, Meg. But Devil May Cry Three didn't explain anything. It didn't clear up Dante's past. It didn't bring him to his earlier teenage years. Dante is meant to be 19 in Devil May Cry Three (So I've heard) I could be wrong. And in the game, he mentioned it had been a year since he had seen his brother Vergil. Now think about it. Look at the new Dante. He looks like what, 17-18 years old or something like that. That's a year prior to Devil May Cry Three. So hang on a second. This could lead us to believe, that if age is to go by; and DmC and DMC are the same as I previously said, then Vergil will be making an appearance in DmC.

Let's see what they are saying here. (From what I can make out) DmC is an origin story, set around a year or so prior to the events of Devil May Cry Three. Explaining how Dante may of got into Demon hunting etc. And explaining what went on with him and Vergil.

We can't just expect Dante to of just done the job. Or expect him to of known how to kill and everything. Dante worked with Vergil before, that much is clear. As made clear at the end of Devil May Cry Three, when Vergil uses Ebony.

I couldn't explain to you right now what went on with those characters before Devil May Cry Three. So don't think of it as a Reboot. A Reboot is the wrong word. They just went with confusing us. They even said they knew they'd get negative feedback. But people are right, it's reverse psychology. They're making us think it's something different, when it isn't. Our minds are going to reject it at first. And with time and more understanding, we'll grow to love it more and more. Ultimately, they will achieve what they wanted to in the end.

True. Vergil will probably make an appearance. While I'm not against a prequel I think it came at the wrong time. They had so much going on already to back track, to me, seems cheap. I also think that if done right they could have explained Dante's origins without having to make a game about it.

 

[veg-G]

i like dmc 3's origin better

 

[LordOfDarkness]

True. Vergil will probably make an appearance. While I'm not against a prequel I think it came at the wrong time. They had so much going on already to back track, to me, seems cheap. I also think that if done right they could have explained Dante's origins without having to make a game about it.

Yeah I think you're totally right in what you're saying there Meg. But I'm going to go with what I said earlier. Maybe it wasn't completely relevant to have this Reboot, but it has given them more time. So it was quite a good move, if you think about it.

 

[Meg]

Yeah I think you're totally right in what you're saying there Meg. But I'm going to go with what I said earlier. Maybe it wasn't completely relevant to have this Reboot, but it has given them more time. So it was quite a good move, if you think about it.

I get where you're coming from. I guess its just a difference of opinion. I'm still pretty unsure about the reboot since we have next to nothing to go off of though. Maybe as we get more details I'm feel different about it.

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Wanna start a petty argument so we have more to say? XD

 

[DreadnoughtDT]

I think they'll do this, then go back to DMC. After all, it's the one that got them a ton of money in the first place.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

I get where you're coming from. I guess its just a difference of opinion. I'm still pretty unsure about the reboot since we have next to nothing to go off of though. Maybe as we get more details I'm feel different about it.

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Wanna start a petty argument so we have more to say? XD

Would absolutely love to. Do you want pleasant debate/light arguing? Or full on in your face arguing?

Probably feel more happy with it, once we understand it a little more.

Don't you agree Meg? *This is your cue*

 

[moseslmpg]

DINO isn't DMC5. I would be more worried about the massive restructuring of Capcom in general than the presence of one measly revisioning of the series. DINO is not going to be more than a trilogy, and it is unlikely that it will be more than one game, so it has nothing to do with what will happen in the future.

Still, with Inafune gone, I feel like there is no anchor to the old Capcom, and that we can expect from future DMC games what we have become familiar with: Disjointed cross-game continuity, fragmentary or spurious plot, poor handling of characters, lack of innovation, misunderstanding of the point of the series, and general hype followed by disappointment and rationalization. Nothing is giving me hope for the future, not even the possibility that DINO is awesome.

 

[Dominus]

If they make Vergil right then some of this badness will be forgiven (and make him playable). The reason for the reboot seems to be for attaching the franchise name to a game meant for a different demographic (in hopes of sellin more games). If anything, Capcom should have let Platinum Games reboot the series, because Ninja Theory is not capable of handling a good in-depth action game. Maybe a good story based game but not an action game. Because if you are putting story anywhere but 3rd in DMC games, then you dont get them: (1) gameplay 2)style 3) story

 

[Darkstar Darin]

Still, with Inafune gone, I feel like there is no anchor to the old Capcom, and that we can expect from future DMC games what we have become familiar with: Disjointed cross-game continuity, fragmentary or spurious plot, poor handling of characters, lack of innovation, misunderstanding of the point of the series, and general hype followed by disappointment and rationalization. Nothing is giving me hope for the future, not even the possibility that DINO is awesome.

u think that's bad continuity...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooWwAZSDncw&p=48388AB6ED427E9C&playnext=1&index=42
:lol:

 

[LordOfDarkness]

DINO isn't DMC5. DINO is not going to be more than a trilogy, and it is unlikely that it will be more than one game, so it has nothing to do with what will happen in the future.

Although your opinion is marginally overlooked due to the fact that DINO is Dante from Devil May Cry. The game isn't a Reboot, as I've mentioned before. It's just a way to gain them more time to build up character backgrounds, change styles a little in the game-play also. And then when everything is comfortable, then they can come back to Devil May Cry.

Or what would you rather they do. Bring out DMC 5 (As you think it should be) with Nero and the Dante we know, possibly throwing Vergil in there? That would be a catastrophic train wreck of a storyline. Devil May Cry 4's storyline was a complete muddle as it was. Dante bursting in on the whole scene. No understanding where the Order even came from, or how Dante came to know about them.

If they would of given us Devil May Cry 5, and not DmC, it would of been a disaster. And I feel Capcom know this, so they wanted to wait a little.

Think. They give it to new hands to play with, and to take a look. Yeah, there's going to be a great chance it gets a huge disgusted look. And comments screaming about how they hate the way things have gone. But it's all the same thing, so you're either a fan or not. DINO is Dante from the Devil May Cry we know now. Not just some guy calling himself Dante. That much is clear by fact, no matter how much you wish to believe otherwise.

And DmC is DMC, and DmC is an origin story. A story set before Devil May Cry Three to explain more about the character/s we know and love today.

So yes, it is about the future. What we can expect. A good outcome to the Series through this, or a bucket of disappointment.

 

[Vergil&Dante]

Let's see what they are saying here. (From what I can make out) DmC is an origin story, set around a year or so prior to the events of Devil May Cry Three. Explaining how Dante may of got into Demon hunting etc. And explaining what went on with him and Vergil.

We can't just expect Dante to of just done the job. Or expect him to of known how to kill and everything. Dante worked with Vergil before, that much is clear. As made clear at the end of Devil May Cry Three, when Vergil uses Ebony.

I couldn't explain to you right now what went on with those characters before Devil May Cry Three. So don't think of it as a Reboot. A Reboot is the wrong word. They just went with confusing us. They even said they knew they'd get negative feedback. But people are right, it's reverse psychology. They're making us think it's something different, when it isn't. Our minds are going to reject it at first. And with time and more understanding, we'll grow to love it more and more. Ultimately, they will achieve what they wanted to in the end.

That's exactly what I thought..
Since this teaser trailer was designed to provoke fans, and maybe wants us to believe it's a reboot with new dante just to confuse us!? Than maybe this is just a prequel not a reboot!?

I hope it's a year before DMC3, and will tell us about how and why Dante and Vergil got separated from each other.
And how Dante becomes the Dante we know! Maybe it's after he hears about Sparda and why he become devil hunter in the human world??

 

[Meg]

In a sense another prequel can be a good thing because it can shed more light on Vergil, and possibly Nero although I have my own thoughts on that. (though its off topic, so I'm not gonna post it here.) I think the problem is how they are going about doing it. Just from one trailer we can see that on an aesthetic level its very very different. However, everything else could be in tact. Dante could still act like he does in 3 and the gameplay could be identifiable as DMC.

 

[moseslmpg]

Although your opinion is marginally overlooked due to the fact that DINO is Dante from Devil May Cry. The game isn't a Reboot, as I've mentioned before. It's just a way to gain them more time to build up character backgrounds, change styles a little in the game-play also. And then when everything is comfortable, then they can come back to Devil May Cry.

My opinion is overlooked? Weren't you asking for my opinion?

By DINO, I mean DmC, not Dino, the character. DINO/DmC is not DMC5. It is a separate universe, unrelated to DMC. It is not a prequel.

Or what would you rather they do. Bring out DMC 5 (As you think it should be) with Nero and the Dante we know, possibly throwing Vergil in there? That would be a catastrophic train wreck of a storyline. Devil May Cry 4's storyline was a complete muddle as it was. Dante bursting in on the whole scene. No understanding where the Order even came from, or how Dante came to know about them.

Don't get all snippy with me. You asked and I answered. Although your logic here is flawed, as if the next game in the original series would have to be bad (not borne out by the past since odd numbered DMCs are always better), and you're making the assumption that if they break the sequence, it will somehow make DMC5 good when they do make it. Making this DINO game is not going to stop DMC5 from coming out, so it could still be a huge train wreck regardless. I believe I indicated that in my last post.

If they would of given us Devil May Cry 5, and not DmC, it would of been a disaster. And I feel Capcom know this, so they wanted to wait a little.

That is illogical and an outright fabrication.

Think. They give it to new hands to play with, and to take a look. Yeah, there's going to be a great chance it gets a huge disgusted look. And comments screaming about how they hate the way things have gone. But it's all the same thing, so you're either a fan or not. DINO is Dante from the Devil May Cry we know now. Not just some guy calling himself Dante. That much is clear by fact, no matter how much you wish to believe otherwise.

I didn't say I hated DINO or anything of the sort. I just said DINO probably will only be one game, and the series will continue in an even worse shape than before due to so many people having left Capcom. You would do well to stop trying to polarize an already stressed community with this "either for us or against us" stuff. And lastly, no, Dino is not the same Dante, since this is not the same timeline or universe. Hence, Dante In Name Only, not that it is relevant to my opinion.

And DmC is DMC, and DmC is an origin story. A story set before Devil May Cry Three to explain more about the character/s we know and love today.

So yes, it is about the future. What we can expect. A good outcome to the Series through this, or a bucket of disappointment.

DmC is not DMC. DmC is an origin story, but it isn't a prequel. It is an origin story for a different version of Dante.

Like I said in my last post, DINO has nothing to do with the future of the series. Even if they wanted to, I doubt Capcom could hold on to NT long enough to do a trilogy, let alone a second game. The future of the series is looking grim with all the competition, how much it has stagnated, and no real visionary designers left at Capcom.