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What if DmC wasn't DMC.

DragonMaster2010 said:
Well what if you had powers, were being haunted by demons, and some cops decide to wanna beat you upside the head with batons. What would you do?
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The exact same thing. Like I said, I actually support him doing that because... well you know, current events.

I told you guys that there'd be civil unrest. I just didn't know that it would happen now.

Anyway: I only counted the cops because I thought they were human.

But it doesn't matter: human, demon, in the end, if you're evil, you're going to meet the business end of my sword. It's that simple.
 
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I don't think it would have had got any kind of flak at all. As far as I can see, it wouldn't have been called a rip-off either as I don't hear Bayonetta picked apart by fans for being a "rip-off". Of course, if the final product had things like jump-cancelling and stuff, fans would make it sure to tell everyone where it comes from, but still it would have created a minor fiasco than what followed after first trailer of DmC.

The thing is NT wasn't even on anybody's radar till Capcom went to them for DmC. A new IP with a smoking, beat-up punk brat would have definitely had people talking about it in a POSITIVE way. The only problem -- it was a Devil May Cry title.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
Wait...WHAT? What game are YOU playing?

First off; at the beginning, Dante didn't cut himself, those were from the women he had sex with the night before. Sometimes when you're having sex, women will scratch your back from how hard you're doing it. Second, he opened his chest to test whether or not he would be dead since he should've died after getting stabbed in the heart in a street fight. Opening a wound hurts like hell. Trust me. Third, He didn't fight the government, he fought demons who haunted him and never gave him a break. He didn't start fighting an actual tyrannical government until Vergil asked him to.

Dante was never raped by demons. He was held in different prisons and an orphanage that abused and tortured him on a daily basis. If you want to use rape, Kat was abused by her demon step-father and even then she didn't say rape, but "attacked" and that could mean many things.
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I don't think cuts are that deep and fish gill like looking when you're having sex. And then he goes back on what he says and tells Mundus it was for revenge but had to add in the parts about enjoying killing Mundus's b*tch son?
 
Well I wouldn't say dragonmaster is 100% right but it is the nature of fans to focus on what could have been or what they want rather than what they have so some would pitch a fit but I dont think most of the gaming community outside of DMC fans would care.

I know how that is cause I rather have another Jak and Daxter game than Uncharted 4

@DanteTheJester
You do realize Dante was goading Mundus into a fight so he purposefully enraged him about the kid. Plus it is possible to have more than one reason to do something.
 
Z218 said:
Well I wouldn't say dragonmaster is 100% right but it is the nature of fans to focus on what could have been or what they want rather than what they have so some would pitch a fit but I dont think most of the gaming community outside of DMC fans would care.

I know how that is cause I rather have another Jak and Daxter game than Uncharted 4

@DanteTheJester
You do realize Dante was goading Mundus into a fight so he purposefully enraged him about the kid. Plus it is possible to have more than one reason to do something.
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Yeah, but still. The fact that he denied the actually decent reason (Saving the world and such) and said that it WAS for revenge makes me feel he was really just some punk emo kid who wants to be as bad as possible. Maybe would have helped if he didn't give that nasty creeper smile along with it. Considering that I felt it was a little too convincing.
 
DanteTheJester said:
Yeah, but still. The fact that he denied the actually decent reason (Saving the world and such) and said that it WAS for revenge makes me feel he was really just some punk emo kid who wants to be as bad as possible. Maybe would have helped if he didn't give that nasty creeper smile along with it.
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He said it to **** Mundus off, to get him away from the Hell Gate, so that Vergil could destroy it and make Mundus vulnerable! That's all there is to it!
 
ItWasAnEggTimer said:
He said it to **** Mundus off, to get him away from the Hell Gate, so that Vergil could destroy it and make Mundus vulnerable! That's all there is to it!
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Yeah. But that creeper smile is still far too convincing for me. You don't smile like that easily when talking about killing someone's son. Least not in such a nasty way.
 
DanteTheJester said:
Yeah. But that creeper smile is still far too convincing for me. You don't smile like that easily when talking about killing someone's son. Least not in such a nasty way.
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That's called acting. The character on my icon does it all the time, only he means it.

nDante isn't as bad as people want to make him out to be. He's just a youth whose been corrupted by constant demon attacks and that obviously has affects on him. He's not gonna act like classic Dante because he was raised differently from classic Dante.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
That's called acting. The character on my icon does it all the time, only he means it.

nDante isn't as bad as people want to make him out to be. He's just a youth whose been corrupted by constant demon attacks and that obviously has affects on him. He's not gonna act like classic Dante because he was raised differently from classic Dante.
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Dat creeper smile still gives me da heebie jeebies.
 
Pale Rider said:
I don't think it would have had got any kind of flak at all. As far as I can see, it wouldn't have been called a rip-off either as I don't hear Bayonetta picked apart by fans for being a "rip-off".
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This would definitely not be the case, seeing as how everyone had called Heavenly Sword a, "God of War" ripoff. The DMC fans are (for the most part in my opinion) even more antagonistic than the GoW fandom -- believe me, they definitely would've said that this was a "ripoff, and not even a very good one at that".

No, this was a definite no-win scenario. If they called Chaos Legion a "DMC ripoff", then you can bet the house on them doing the same to whatever NT's new IP would've been.
 
Zer0 said:
No, this was a definite no-win scenario. If they called Chaos Legion a "DMC ripoff", then you can bet the house on them doing the same to whatever NT's new IP would've been.
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now i looked up Chaos Legion
that game looks sweet i want to play it now
but i wouldn't call it a DMC ripoff

if that is considered a DMC ripoff
then every hack and slash is a DMC ripoff
 
Director Bison said:
then every hack and slash is a DMC ripoff
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Actually, it was quite the catchphrase back in 2004 (they called "Legacy of Kain: Defiance" a DMC ripoff too); or, at least it was until GoW came along. Then everything was just a "GoW ripoff".

Just like before DMC, everything was a "Zelda ripoff" (Hercules N64). People feel the need to call other games "ripoffs" just to have a frame of reference because the unwashed masses are just not very bright in general in my honest opinion.

So yes, it is rather presumptuous to think that no one would call NT's "hypothetical non-DMC IP" a ripoff.
 
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DantetheJester said:
Yeah, but still. The fact that he denied the actually decent reason (Saving the world and such) and said that it WAS for revenge makes me feel he was really just some punk emo kid who wants to be as bad as possible. Maybe would have helped if he didn't give that nasty creeper smile along with it. Considering that I felt it was a little too convincing.
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Well without rewatching the scene, I would just say Dante has a personal vendetta against Mundus for past grievances and just chose to acknowledge his hatred rather than lie about it or dress it up like how Mundus and Vergil would.

Think of it this way as Dante in DMC1 didnt set out to stop mundus out of the goodness of his heart. For him, the main goal was revenge as well.

That doesn't mean he didnt wanna help people either. He just had a personal incentive.
 
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Z218 said:
Well without rewatching the scene, I would just say Dante has a personal vendetta against Mundus for past grievances and just chose to acknowledge his hatred rather than lie about it or dress it up like how Mundus and Vergil would.

Think of it this way as Dante in DMC1 didnt set out to stop mundus out of the goodness of his heart. For him, the main goal was revenge as well.

That doesn't mean he didnt wanna help people either. He just had a personal incentive.
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Least he didn't give me dat creeper smile. Mah heebie jeebies are stressed enough when I actively watch the "Axing" scene from American Psycho multiple times in a row.
 
DanteTheJester said:
Least he didn't give me dat creeper smile. Mah heebie jeebies are stressed enough when I actively watch the "Axing" scene from American Psycho multiple times in a row.
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His smile actually affected you huh? Then bravo to the actor and director for making it happen! Now, you can tell that Mundus is ****ed this creepy b**tard killed his son.


WRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

That moment when you're so mad you don't use vowels anymore.
 
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