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The Writing (and Artistic) Ranting Thread

Dante's Stalker

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@Aisen66 that's okay, I know where Dante lives, where he goes, what he does, when he does it, what he eats and where he sleeps, and stuff. It takes years to become a pro at stalking. What makes it easier is Twitter and Facebook and social media because EVERYBODY wants to be stalked then. It also helps when the stalkee is aware of your stalking and gives you the information you want. I've even got Dante's number. But I can't call it because it's an overseas number and my mum says those cost a lot. :wink:
 

Rebel Dynasty

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Spent most of my day agonizing over whether to accept the potential ghostwriting job a friend contacted me over. While I think it's noble of their friend to want to tell their story in the hopes of helping others with mental illness, I don't think I can do it.

1) I have no experience ghostwriting, so I can't speak for the quality.

2) Inspirational as I'm sure the story will be, I can't deny a lack of interest in writing it. I do fiction, not memoirs, and even if they were asking for a work of fiction to be done, I still couldn't promise interest; what interests me is what I'm working on, now. Writing someone else's idea has never (with the exception of one fanfic) been of interest to me.

3) Speaking of my work, my hands are full enough as is; I'm working on two novels at the same time, which is challenge enough. Taking on someone else's story would require me to put mine on hiatus (again), and that likely would make me resent it, payment be damned.

4) On top of writing, real life has me busy enough, and even if it didn't, in only a couple more months, the next six months of this year will be the toughest I've dealt with in a long time (since I will be taking on every conceivable real life obligation in the hub's absence).

I feel bad, knowing I'm going to have to tell them I can't do it; partly because I'm sure this person has a hell of a story to tell, partly because my rate would be significantly cheaper than professional ghostwriters go for, and partly because monetarily, it would do my family good. But I would rather say no now, than accept a task that will only result in my hair falling out by the end of it.
 

Aisen66

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if you call dante you wont know who is going to be speaking with you him or vergil vergil is dante,s everyday,s nightmare remenbah that twins have the same voice and vergil might say to you on the phone we dont take those kind of cases or not now because you are in jail or dante went retarded he only understands the sound of laughter now :cool: he,ll hang up on you everytime what are you going to do next then ask the police to put him on the cross again or put him back on arkham ,s asylum next to the cell where you say dante sleeps because he,ll be jealous of dante his only stalkers probably are big train,s beds models team ninja said dante gets the angels and then vergil gets to go out with the the lizards with ears aliens and demons :hungover: haha dante using twitter is the best idea you told me he surely is plugged to the internet inside the matrix of video games i was able to reach him once and take his girl from him but i was never able to dream about dmc again i can only visit scorpion in hell in mk now ,in hell there,s so many suns everything looks yellow thats why he uses a yellow ninja kimono :hungover: nah just playing but they do need a white dressed ninja in mk, since anime dante doesnt have any money to call you you,ll have to keep on seeing his life tru every mirror in the world everyday :wink: gill

rebel dynasty just write math cures mentally ill people the end this person shouldnt write his story is my opinion i been locked up on gordon,s cage and in arkham ,s asylum and i wouldnt sell my story to nobody i wont let nobody turn my life into a book or a movie in these places they treat people like toys and because movies are a piece of hell they can go to hell and find my life even thoug i like movies and watch em with a happy face while mundus is missing his face being a red dead clown from that last game and whoo my favorite part of your story you said you,ll be taking every conceivable obligation real life obligation by yourself you are funny :laugh: being a book writer must be a cool job i take pills so my imagination for writing is gone maybe i have one of your books im going to start reading the house of the scorpion now because i was going to read scar night wich seems fun because it has angels in it but the words in that book are difficult i am going to have to use the computer,s dictionnary site for that book when the time is a go this crazy person,s story is probably one by one one after the next all the words in the dictionnary haha:sneaky: g
 

Sparda's rejected son

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Akira Toriyama, the guy who made Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball once said he typically writes new characters in pairs because it is easier for readers to gauge their personalities. (I.E. Son Goku and Bulma, Sea Turtle and Master Roshi. Yamucha and Puar, Staff Officer Black and Commander Red and so on and so.) I have adopted this idea and it works very, very VERY well. One of the few writing "tips" that has worked for me personally.
 

Aisen66

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hey sparda,s rejected son nero that signature of your much loved japanese chic is hot :woot: i like ninja chics now, i used to love zhang ziyi until i saw the women on my wife is a gangster 3 and the ones on just another pandoras box now i like a lot of em i should get rich become the devil and get me one i,d be happy with just an asian alien i dont ask for too much :angel:
 

Sparda's rejected son

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hey sparda,s rejected son nero that signature of your much loved japanese chic is hot :woot: i like ninja chics now, i used to love zhang ziyi until i saw the women on my wife is a gangster 3 and the ones on just another pandoras box now i like a lot of em i should get rich become the devil and get me one i,d be happy with just an asian alien i dont ask for too much :angel:

This paragraph was hard to understand but I understood you like the character in my signature and that I can agree with. :thumbsup:
 

Aisen66

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i was giving you the latest news about the new gold rush in the wildwest well actually this time in asia my wife is a gangster 3 is a movie and is very funny with beautiful women but dont get too used to the movie if you see it that chic in the movie is mine first :cautious: actually both of them are mine you can keep the bad seed that comes to fight her at the end have you seen gong li :nailbiting:see her before you die in pain playing devilmaycry one of these days haha :angel: yeah the goddess on your signature is something to remenber for life and after death too let us look at her until our dead girlfriends walk into the room :wink:ummm
 
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Dante's Stalker

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Akira Toriyama, the guy who made Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball once said he typically writes new characters in pairs because it is easier for readers to gauge their personalities. (I.E. Son Goku and Bulma, Sea Turtle and Master Roshi. Yamucha and Puar, Staff Officer Black and Commander Red and so on and so.) I have adopted this idea and it works very, very VERY well. One of the few writing "tips" that has worked for me personally.

That's kind of in line with writing a secondary character to your protagonist. I'm vague on the details but I remember being taught that the secondary character needs to be a solid character with a strong personality/quality/bond that will remain the loyal pillar that your protagonist falls back on, leans on, jumps from, learns from, deviates away from, comes back to, after your MC has done some serious character development throughout the plot. It's basically using your secondary character as a platform to sell your MC, so I can see how it will benefit the writer in terms of showing off their MC's personality.
Not that this rule is rigid, it's pretty flexible depending on what genre you write and what your plot is, and you could probably completely do without it like Mr. Martin has and just champion all of your good guys (although I think Samwell was a secondary to Jon at first).
There's also a lot of social psychology that determines the kind of characters your MC pairs up with (but that's really not the point here, I just find it very interesting) and which characters readers will be more drawn to.

I'm rambling, pardon me.

I'm contemplating doing a story in my native language.
After I've written my learning stories and created the covers for my work, of course.
There's always something else to do first.
 

Aisen66

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dante,s stalker what is your native language native american? :greedy:
when i used to be the country,s stallion and had many ideas that wouldnt let me sleep for months and still i would never be tired
i had the idea of writing this story is not angels die it was another one
it was about the future people were asigned to wear only one color of clothes so each different color clothes group of people had their freedom days when they could be outside only when it was their turn because if it wasnt their turn to be out in the world they had to stay inside the house and another group of people dressed in a different color ,s clothes would be the ones outside so there wasnt any money in this world only people would trade stuff for other stuff im giving you an example if you liked this guy,s car you could trade it for your car or a shirt or a cd for another cd same deal so when anybody would leave their country they would clone them and leave a clone behind in their country the main character works for the government and he has to leave the country then his clone gets into trouble and he has to rescue his clone he gets hurt almost at the end falls into a coma the clone takes over the main character,s life and meets all these new people and when the main character when he wakes up he sees all this people in the hospital wich are all the people he saw in his long coma dreams wich are now his friends in real life they are the people the clone met in real life the end van damme would be the actor for this movie because the guy used to make really good movies in the 90,s and now he is making crappy movies like assasins games what kind of movie is that some inprecation of a movie for a great actor he is a cool guy van damme cool like tom cruise :cool::cool: .i,ll see you all on the news, gill
 

Shadow

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Putting this under a spoiler because it's nsfw at some points....
It really bugs me when I have to cut a scene from a story of mine. I usually don't. I usually write what I need for the basic plot and then fill in any gaps in the subplots with extra scenes to flesh out the story...so I never have need to cut scenes from my fics unless they're badly written, at which point I rewrite them. (If anything, I usually suffer from needing to add more to the story. For instance: a fic that started at 90k words getting 30k of additional material added in because I'm a fool that didn't flesh out certain things that needed to be fleshed out.) But lately I've been trying to add in scenes I don't really need, but just want. After almost a decade of being demanded to write porn or elaborate, detailed smut scenes into fics, I've finally given in to the point where I'm pretty comfortable with the idea. Y'all readers want smut and it fits? Sure, why not, lemme see what I can do.

But now I'm having to cut a smut scene I actually want in my fic because the tags alone will scare off the readers. It's hardcore BDSM edgeplay and it was really written to explain an element of the main pairing's relationship that I don't show very often and, for the first time, in detail. And, after seeing some of these comments people have made about people who write BDSM or any smut that's slightly darker, it's just making me scared to post it. And I hate it. I hate having to feel ashamed for something I'm into and my characters are into because someone who's never tried it or researched it is like "everyone who writes about this is a terrible person". I hate having to think of all the work I've put into this scene and how I'm going to have to scrap it from the final draft because it's going to cause more trouble than it's worth...and the scene isn't even done. And I'm frustrated that I've put all this effort into broadening (ha) my outlook with writing and I'm suddenly "not allowed" to write about things I feel strongly about.

It's all well and good to say "write whatever you want to", but it only applies if what you're writing is vanilla-f***ing-pudding. And, yeah, we all should be able to write what we want, but why can't people leave each other alone if they disagree with something? Avoid the things you dislike. It's not that hard (gdi, brain). Just stop hunting down people who write stuff you dislike just to be a jerk. It's not right that we have to waste our time cuz some people are too rude to not mind their own fandom.

Avo's -censored-, now I've gotta figure out where to put all these words I can't post.
 

Aisen66

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hey shadow so when is it that you re going to keep on helping dante with more white magick next time vergil is on the news next time use black magick to get rid of him faster i hear vergil is scared of the blacks tehehe i had an addiction when i was a little kid of looking at the sky at night just waiting to see a witch flying or hiding in the dark trees so i would watch from the window as if it were a tv in the middle of the night then i would spend all night awake waiting for witches and aliens to make a party or take me away to another planet and by the time i ve fallen sleep it was already time to go to school and i didnt want to go because having just fallen sleep felt so good

hey dante,s stalker how are you i been busy doing alot of paper work because the fish on my fish tank have been bullying each other :unsure:
i had some of them put on different fish bowls now they are prisoners forever another one i put with one of my betas to teach him a lesson for being so mean but i only let him punch him like twice :cool:he chases all the fish and bites them he is going to be living alone in a bowl or in the toilet water about to join the cocodriles who live in the sewers ,is dmc4 dante your favorite dante im playing that game now im on mission 14 your avatar has nice ninja eyes i used to believe my eyes looked like that right after watching a ninja movie at the movie theather everytime :angel:
 

Rebel Dynasty

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@Aisen66 Just giving you a heads-up: this thread is for discussing writing or artistic-related rants or thoughts. You've kind of just been posting a bunch of stuff unrelated to either, and...well, double-posting on top of it (which is also frowned upon).

I encourage you to read the OP. If you find you have something to talk about regarding writing or art, go for it. Otherwise, there are other threads where you can talk about what you're thinking, doing, or whatever.
 

Sparda's rejected son

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@Dante's Stalker
Indeed Toriyama's "pair rule" as I call it is nothing new but since he is the closest I have to a "favorite author" I had to quote him. It was one of those story crafting ideas that really works for me personally, my own original tale relies heavily on this idea/trope. With that said....

I finally posted and refined the final chapter of my original work. I changed the ending which allows for a "Oh my God I didn't see that coming" moment and allows for a epilogue/second book if I so choose. Now that I am done, I am going to rest because FUNK I am exhausted!

Yes "funk."
 

EA9Sol

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I really want to write a fantasy steampunk type story, but with magic technology. >.> And set in a fictional world. I've been so lazy about trying to come up with something. @_@ So, frustrating when I have as story but no clue where to start. >.<
 

Shadow

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I really want to write a fantasy steampunk type story, but with magic technology. >.> And set in a fictional world. I've been so lazy about trying to come up with something. @_@ So, frustrating when I have as story but no clue where to start. >.<

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT -would read it in a heartbeat-
Have you tried random plot generators? That might help some.
 

Aisen66

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i didnt write anything it was my black cat that did it but fine if thats what you want my lady i will rather go back to my cell with kikyo now
 

EA9Sol

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DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT -would read it in a heartbeat-
Have you tried random plot generators? That might help some.

Oh, I will. heheheh <3

So, I'm going to put some time aside to write a bit when not too tired from work. Should be able to make some progress and get something done...and get some of my other story ideas written down as well.
 
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Dante's Stalker

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I really want to write a fantasy steampunk type story, but with magic technology. >.> And set in a fictional world. I've been so lazy about trying to come up with something. @_@ So, frustrating when I have as story but no clue where to start. >.<
I get loads of ideas from watching scientific experiments on youtube. I take the concept/factual information and churn it into something practical that can be used in daily life or specific situations, ie. magic tech. Also, listening to steampunk themed songs on YT helps too.

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