The Role of the Yamato and Dante's Tattoo

[Loopy]

But, isn't Dante wielding Rebellion and Aquila when he acquires it after defeating Bob Barbas while being in the real world inside the Raptor News Network tower?

Just checked the video, and he does have Rebellion on his back, but when he absorbs Barbas' soul or whatever it is, the Rebellion disappears and the Aquila weapons appear in Dante's hands.

 

[Sparda's rejected son]

It would seem Rebellion would emerge from Dante's Tattoo. However the game doesn't give us anything about it or its nature. Why does it become a whip? How does it change its form? How can Dante live with a freaki'n blade in his spine?! Nothing! We are told nothing I tells ya!

 

[Railazel]

But, isn't Dante wielding Rebellion and Aquila when he acquires it after defeating Bob Barbas while being in the real world inside the Raptor News Network tower?

No, that's in Limbo.

Alittleacorn, please, show me the ways of the art of badassery...

Well, see...you do this thing...with your wrist, and you gotta make sure to have your legs spread apart evenly. You'll do like this...this...woosh thing.

No, like this.

Oh, you must be talking about the super-duper-mega slice of death! I've totally mastered that. Hey, have you guys done the thing with your hand where you, like, flick it, and something weird happens then you end up where you pointed at?

This all sounds oddly crude for some reason, oh god...

I believe you are thinking of the Helicopter.

Anyways, on the note of the tattoos, I believe Vergil has one as well but its more demonic in appearance. However it only shows up in concept art. I would assume that that has something to do with Yamato appearing in the real world.

 

[Hatrux]

No, that's in Limbo.





Oh, you must be talking about the super-duper-mega slice of death! I've totally mastered that. Hey, have you guys done the thing with your hand where you, like, flick it, and something weird happens then you end up where you pointed at?



I believe you are thinking of the Helicopter.

Anyways, on the note of the tattoos, I believe Vergil has one as well but its more demonic in appearance. However it only shows up in concept art. I would assume that that has something to do with Yamato appearing in the real world.

But, how do you know he's still in Limbo? However, I can't prove he isn't. It's my theory because when you watch the video, the way Dante appears and how the room looks like makes me think so.
Also, not all the concept art is in the story, just as that image. The tattoo in the story has the sword with it's edge down oriented.

 

[Railazel]

But, how do you know he's still in Limbo? However, I can't prove he isn't. It's my theory because when you watch the video, the way Dante appears and how the room looks like makes me think so.
Also, not all the concept art is in the story, just as that image. The tattoo in the story has the sword with it's edge down oriented.

I'm not expecting for that specific design to be canon.

 

[Loopy]

But, how do you know he's still in Limbo? However, I can't prove he isn't. It's my theory because when you watch the video, the way Dante appears and how the room looks like makes me think so.

Just watched the cut scene for that. There's a switch from the boss arena to the Raptor news recording room in the human world after Dante shoots at Barbas' human form through the screen and kills him in both Limbo and real world simultaneously. Barbas' power to keep Dante in Limbo has now been negated by his death, so there would be nothing holding Dante there anymore, as shown when Dante appears through a portal back into the human world recording room to collect Aquila.

 

[Railazel]

Just watched the cut scene for that. There's a switch from the boss arena to the Raptor news recording room in the human world after Dante shoots at Barbas' human form through the screen and kills him in both Limbo and real world simultaneously. Barbas' power to keep Dante in Limbo has now been negated by his death, so there would be nothing holding Dante there anymore, as shown when Dante appears through a portal back into the human world recording room to collect Aquila.

So minor plothole?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

How is it a plothole? Kat told us at the beginning of the game that if you attack a projection in Limbo it will kill the projector. Barbas was projecting himself into Limbo as a TV screen, and Dante shot through that, killing Barbas at his news desk. Then, as Barbas died, Dante was yanked out of Limbo, and got Aquila.

Rebellion is held via an arcane armory within the tattoo on his back, and he tends to not have it out unless he needs it. He walks around in public, and can't exactly retain a low-profile with a giant slab of silver on his back.

 

[Railazel]

Then, as Barbas died, Dante was yanked out of Limbo, and got Aquila.

Rebellion is held via an arcane armory within the tattoo on his back, and he tends to not have it out unless he needs it.

If I recall, Rebellion and all its form aren't supposed to appear outside of Limbo. Thus, when he acquired Aquila outside of Limbo, it created a plothole. Now, if I'm wrong and Rebellion just comes out as needed regardless of the dimension he's in, then sure, there's no plothole.

He walks around in public, and can't exactly retain a low-profile with a giant slab of silver on his back.

Well, technically, he has never really tried to retain a low- profile considering that he's a wanted criminal and he walks around with his face out in the open. Then again, I guess that's expected since no one actually gave a poopy.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

If I recall, Rebellion and all its form aren't supposed to appear outside of Limbo. Thus, when he acquired Aquila outside of Limbo, it created a plothole. Now, if I'm wrong and Rebellion just comes out as needed regardless of the dimension he's in, then sure, there's no plothole.

What actual evidence do we have to support the idea that it can't exist outside of Limbo, though. That for the most part we haven't seen him do it? Correlation does not imply causation, as it were, and since we see Rebellion exist outside of Limbo in many other ways, it's reasonable to assume that it's not plotholes.

With everything we know, Dante just doesn't bother bringing it out in the real world unless he really needs it.

Well, technically, he has never really tried to retain a low- profile considering that he's a wanted criminal and he walks around with his face out in the open. Then again, I guess that's expected since no one actually gave a poopy.

He wasn't branded a wanted criminal until the events of DmC.

 

[Railazel]

What actual evidence do we have to support the idea that it can't exist outside of Limbo, though. That for the most part we haven't seen him do it? Correlation does not imply causation, as it were, and since we see Rebellion exist outside of Limbo in many other ways, it's reasonable to assume that it's not plotholes.

With everything we know, Dante just doesn't bother bringing it out in the real world unless he really needs it.

Alright, I see.

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He wasn't branded a wanted criminal until the events of DmC.

He's an escaped convict and was branded a terrorist in the Chronicles of Vergil.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

He's an escaped convict and was branded a terrorist in the Chronicles of Vergil.

In Hellfire, yeah...but that's not a prison in the real world. Plus, the canonicity (or at least the timeline) of CoV is shaky at best :S

Either way, being wanted doesn't necessarily mean that everyone who sees your face is going to know who you are.

 

[Railazel]

In Hellfire, yeah...but that's not a prison in the real world.

According to Barbas, he escaped from juvie multiple times and his escape from Hellfire was considered as an escape from prison in the Human world.

Plus, the canonicity (or at least the timeline) of CoV is shaky at best :S

Maybe? Wasn't it given NT"s blessing?

Either way, being wanted doesn't necessarily mean that everyone who sees your face is going to know who you are.

Of course, but he still has to be wary of the cameras and the people who are looking for him.

Basically, I don't think he actually cares about keeping a low- profile. He has been caught before and has escaped many times before. Him keeping his face out is more than likely just a sign showing how much he really doesn't care. That isn't to say that you're wrong about that being the reason why he hides his sword since, if anything, keeping it out would cause a good amount of attention.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Maybe? Wasn't it given NT"s blessing?

Sure, but Capcom has done similar with other work that's been contradictory >.< And CoV is also just...really...crummy >.< I prefer to take that comic's story with some salt.[/quote]

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Maybe? Wasn't it given NT"s blessing?

Sure, but Capcom has done similar with other work that's been contradictory >.< And CoV is also just...really...crummy >.< I prefer to take that comic's story with some salt.

 

[Railazel]

Sure, but Capcom has done similar with other work that's been contradictory >.< And CoV is also just...really...crummy >.< I prefer to take that comic's story with some salt.

It's good to know that I'm not the only person who thought the story was bad. It made some things very confusing.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

The concepts themselves were really interesting, and help to flesh out the world, but the pacing and art is just horrible. I accept that Vergil and Kat fell in love before DmC, but nowhere near that quickly.

 

[Railazel]

The concepts themselves were really interesting, and help to flesh out the world.

I feel like the execution of the concepts was... off. Like if they just added some small details, I would've understood their overall place in the story's (DmC's) logic a little bit better. For example, in the game, Dante always had Rebellion but, in the comic, he had just gotten it in the prison and DT'd at the same time despite not having his amulet on his neck.

the pacing and art is just horrible. I accept that Vergil and Kat fell in love before DmC, but nowhere near that quickly.

I'm more worried about what value the events had if there's no mention of them in the game.