The aftermath about Dante's + Vergil's plan

[darkmanifest]

Hmmm, perhaps they just really didn't know the full scale of the damage that could be caused or Dante didn't until Phineas mentions it. It's like being in a zombie outbreak, if there's only one way out and you a lose numbers of survivors with you save them the group, but would that outweigh the cost of you all perishing? Sounds cold, if since the whole plan to take out Mundus was put together by Vergil, that would make sense.

Good point about the zombie outbreak, usually in those stories, people doing whatever they must to survive is a massive plot point, it doesn't go generally ignored. True, Vergil's an ass, he wouldn't care, but Dante and Kat would notice the problem with his method of achieving victory. Then again, in the comic [SPOILERS, I guess?] Kat is party to the mass-murder of humans so as to prevent an even greater catastrophe from hitting the human world. She expresses remorse after the fact, but she knew what she was doing at the time. So it's possible we're not supposed to see ANY of them as morally perfect people, just desperate freedom fighters doing whatever they have to - even if that means monstrous acts themselves. But I got the impression that Kat was supposed to be this moral paragon who grounds Dante. They didn't show her ruthless side at all in the game, and I always take non-game canon with a grain of salt (since it was such a mess in the previous DMC universe).

With Dante you're right, it would've been nice if they'd focused a bit on that, like we saw the aftermath of what happened in the nightclub, when he killed the demons there and any humans that could've gotten hurt in the attack. Same with the carnival and the city being partly destroyed. I'd of liked to have seen a scene Dante acknowledging the aftermath of him fighting the demons, even though he had got no real choice. Something like that would make him feel guilty, that at the cost of freeing mankind, so many had to perish

Yeah, I would really have appreciated a moment or scene like that. Even just him glancing around at the mess when he leaves Limbo, ambulances showing up and people screaming and wounded, and going "Damn it, it's not my fault" to himself, while making an expression like he's afraid it might be. And if Mundus had brought it up when Dante was talking about helping people, not seeking revenge. It would have been a really easy way to twist the knife.

[By the way, which train thingy was this you mention? o.o it's cause i can't remember what scene this comes up. Unless you mean the upturn level where the bridge breaks apart and the train carriages are thrown everywhere, if so that was Bob's doing, not Dante's.]

It's towards the end of the The Trade mission, where Dante is helping Vergil and Kat escape from Mundus. There's a train bridge in the way of the car, with a train traveling across it at the moment Dante freezes time, and Dante destroys the bridge so as to save the car from crashing. Start 6:55 on this video:

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Makes me think of the Enslaved ending where Trip shuts down Pyramid to wake everyone from the dream they've been inside the machine, she asks a really important question, but an uncertain one 'did I do the right thing?'.

Actions always have consequences to them, big or small. O.O

Now that right there is what I would have loved to see in DmC. Just one small moment where the heroes clearly doubt whether or not they're in the right. Or, considering how much carnage happens in the game, a handful of small moments. The story raised some really good questions about good and evil, order and anarchy, and then didn't give the characters much chance to address them. Kind of like DMC4 raised questions about the nature of faith, but didn't go anywhere with it.

 

[Sieghart]

Did dante really freeze time in mission 15? I don't see him doing anything of casting it.

 

[Morgan]

He doesn't freeze time. The chaos of Limbo itself is making time flip out. Dante himself actually stops running and looks around like he doesn't know what happened. Whenever Dante does freeze time (as in, whenever he DTs) the aura radiates out of him and the scenery loses its color. That's a pretty obvious marker.

Oh, and the train disappeared.