Stylish Nero's Future Version of DmC2 (Characters)

[Stylish Nero]

Yeah I see that. I think that's nice for Nero and Dante. Nero wants to be like Dante and be strong, but all along, Dante wanted to be like Nero in having a small shed of humanity in him.

I can't take Jester as serious for a demon villain as I just see him as comic relief.

I don't think you should make so many characters playable as its going to get a bit confusing with gameplay aspects if they all play differently and need different strategical tech.

As for Beatrice, will she be taking the exact roll as Trish as in will she look like Dante's mother? If so, that's where Dante could finally get his red coat if using the "red reminds me of my mother" theory I thought of.

Its only Lucia and Dante that are playable since Nero is still a twerp it would be hard to make him playable and Beatrice.....nah...maybe DLC.

I liked your red coat idea could work.

 

[Stylish Nero]

Hmm, interesting. Sounds good so far.

Okay I have to go now....bedtime...got school tomorrow. I promise to cover gameplay next but I might discuss bosses in this thread or a few boss ideas I have (my favorite part in action games are boss fights and the combat system so one thing that ruined DmC for me where the lackluster boss fights).

I do have in mind an inner Dante boss fight where he fights his "Hollow" side like Vergil but they're aren't considered Hollow whatzafuvk not but his true demonic nature or demonic side (like when in DmC when Dante goes DT the hub with his face changes and become more demonic) I think his demonic side should look like that with red tint and veins and not how Hollow Dante did since Hollow Dante was technically an hallucination caused by Hollow Vergil.

Defeating him allowed Dante to unlock the next level in his Demon powers.

 

[EvilX-81]

I would probably explain Kat's absence.

Yes, please. DMC2 confused the crap out of me when we ended with Dante and Trish becoming a demonfighting duo, then the next game she's never even referred to. Fortunately the later DMC's seemed to not make that mistake again.

Haven't formally read through all the ideas here and mostly skimmed through the posts, but I will say that I see DmC as a chance to turn things on their head, moreso than I see with the classic DMC's, which while DMC is not as stringent on adherence to a plot or concepts, things like Sparda and Angels can actually be addressed in this version. Kick moar tables over and build your own house of card. This is the main thing the DmC universe has going for it.

What I did like from what I glanced; Jester. I like the idea of a "psycho Dante" and it also makes me think about Violator from Spawn. Also I'm NOT thinking about DC's Joker, which these types of characters almost always turn out to be, so extra points.

Argosax: Because that f*cker was awesome in DMC2, yet couldn't be fought with anything other than guns, and a second chance to take on that thing properly would be a pleasure.

Did not like; Phineas. He had this interesting mysterious wanderer vibe to him to me; shacking up with Dante kinda kills that mystique. Also I think he possibly has a darker, ruthless side to him considering that he was the one who suggested to Dante to kill Mundus child. This could be fun to play with; what is his ultimate alignment; bad or good?

Arius: Feels like it'd be too easy to fall back into the Mundus trap. On the otherhand I do like an evil human being in this since it kinda rings back to Vergil's words about mankind wrecking itself, and a human on the badside could be a great "confirmation" for Dante to have to deal with morally.

Nero: Because f*ck cocky superpowered brats.....

Lucia: ...And "you go girl" females. Though if she has a character arc that ends with her gaining balance to this trait (perhaps learning to accept help from men and others when someone as powerful and brash as Dante reaches out to her for help with complete humility), she could be cool.

 

[Chancey289]

You just wasted time here. This isn't a sequel and you obviously don't even like DmC. Why exactly would you think your are fit to do a follow up for it? Weaving in awkward and random exposition that has pretty much nothing to do with the ongoing story arc of both Dante and the world DmC isn't a sequel. It just reeks of bad fanfiction that disregards every point going as long as its own characters look cool.

You got some decent ideas but overall this gets a nope.

 

[Gel]

Yes, please. DMC2 confused the crap out of me when we ended with Dante and Trish becoming a demonfighting duo, then the next game she's never even referred to. Fortunately the later DMC's seemed to not make that mistake again.

Well, first hi again!
Apparently Capcom was already making a game when DMC1 was released, so facing the success it had, capcom told a team to rework that game and turn it in a DMC2, that's the main reason why the game seems so different from the first one.
Why Trish isn't in DMC2: the rumour was when the two became a team in the end, there were more than infortunate implications implied( hero gets the girl who is by the way created and molded to be exactly like is mother, which per se implies a very creepy trope; Kamiya came to destroy this earlier belief but too late).So they turn Dante in a man who has absolutely no luck with women, which allows Dante in every game interacts with different female sidekicks without the obligation of lovey dovey between him and them.

Dante wasn't depressed because Trish left: even when they were partners she was never there.It was so rare find her in the office he said himself what's the point of having the office named Devils never cry if she wasn't there.If she was so important why would he changing the name so quickly and why didn't take too long to them to fall apart? ( this is in CD Drama).
He was always like that: depressing, cranky and kind of assh*lish, that's why Trish said to him in anime " It's so rare of you to be nice!".

And yeah, makes no sense, at least to me, to reboot a series only to have similar stories with the same characters doing similar things.It's tiring and pointless...

 

[Stylish Nero]

I'm sorry I guess I shouldn't be following DmC's example.

Vergil's quest to gain power because of inner insecurities.
Dante's revenge against Mundus for killing his mother.
Dante cocky, devil may care attitude until he meets a human girl who helps him alter his priorites.
The chick who helped Dante find his way in life was a tortured girl with father issues.

I'm not done yet.

Oh yes, cause DmC was soooo different.

So I get criticize before for saying DmC is sooo similar to DMC and using a lot of plot elements and ideas from it so now I'm getting critized for making it kind of similar to Devil May Cry. DmC fans.

Same characters, doing the same thing?

Trish a artificial demon created by Mundus to look like Dante's mother to bring him into a trap. Beatrice a natural born demon (succubus) who was one Mundus's former mistress who wants to find love and am still debating if she should have red hair or be blonde (I'm going for blonde).

You do know what a reboot is right?

Oh I guess the Dark Knight series were a bad reboot since it practically reuses a lot of the old characters and barely has much new characters (that were relevant) and reuses rather pivatol plot elements from past Batman stories. Bruce pasts is the same, rich orphan who becomes a crime fighter, same Alfred, same Joker (but more well...less goofy kind of but the same), same Rachel, same Gordon, same Bane, same Catwoman (although a bit less seductive or playful), same well A LOT OF THINGS.

I guess Lords of Shadow is a pretty bad Castlevania reboot since its practically very similar and the same and uses many plot elements from the past Castlevanias.

I guess that means the Bionic Commando reboot was a good reboot cause outside the main battle against Hitler is the only thing I recognized from the old Bionic Commando. I don't recall Spencer's wife being his arm in the old ones...AMAZING REBOOT!

 

[Gel]

I'm sorry I guess I shouldn't be following DmC's example.

Vergil's quest to gain power because of inner insecurities.
Dante's revenge against Mundus for killing his mother.
Dante cocky, devil may care attitude until he meets a human girl who helps him alter his priorites.
The chick who helped Dante find his way in life was a tortured girl with father issues.

I'm not done yet.

Oh yes, cause DmC was soooo different.

So I get criticize before for saying DmC is sooo similar to DMC and using a lot of plot elements and ideas from it so now I'm getting critized for making it kind of similar to Devil May Cry. DmC fans.

Same characters, doing the same thing?

Trish a artificial demon created by Mundus to look like Dante's mother to bring him into a trap. Beatrice a natural born demon (succubus) who was one Mundus's former mistress who wants to find love and am still debating if she should have red hair or be blonde (I'm going for blonde).

If your Beatrice would be a honey trap, identical stranger, oedipal complex and a " freud was right trope", then yes you will get a character with the same features Trish has ( see this http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/DevilMayCry and this http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/DevilMayCryHeroes).


Reboot could mean a lot of things, including you have the main characters or at least characters who could be recognizable by the people who knows the franchise ( whatever it could be).It is not necessary to have a great number of old version character or even the same story.

And, no, I'm not exactly what you can call a DmC fan, but I'm able to recognize when things become too similar to the old games, destroying the purpose of the reboot.

Then again this is just my individual opinion.

 

[MephistoCarnival]

So basically a DMC5.

Since the characters become more closer personality wise to the old ones,you can say it's like a DMC5.
And I know if they make it look more like a DMC game with its new ideas there and there a lot of people would like it .

 

[Chancey289]

I'm sorry I guess I shouldn't be following DmC's example.

Vergil's quest to gain power because of inner insecurities.
Dante's revenge against Mundus for killing his mother.
Dante cocky, devil may care attitude until he meets a human girl who helps him alter his priorites.
The chick who helped Dante find his way in life was a tortured girl with father issues.

I'm not done yet.

Oh yes, cause DmC was soooo different.

So I get criticize before for saying DmC is sooo similar to DMC and using a lot of plot elements and ideas from it so now I'm getting critized for making it kind of similar to Devil May Cry. DmC fans.

Same characters, doing the same thing?

Trish a artificial demon created by Mundus to look like Dante's mother to bring him into a trap. Beatrice a natural born demon (succubus) who was one Mundus's former mistress who wants to find love and am still debating if she should have red hair or be blonde (I'm going for blonde).

You do know what a reboot is right?

Oh I guess the Dark Knight series were a bad reboot since it practically reuses a lot of the old characters and barely has much new characters (that were relevant) and reuses rather pivatol plot elements from past Batman stories. Bruce pasts is the same, rich orphan who becomes a crime fighter, same Alfred, same Joker (but more well...less goofy kind of but the same), same Rachel, same Gordon, same Bane, same Catwoman (although a bit less seductive or playful), same well A LOT OF THINGS.

I guess Lords of Shadow is a pretty bad Castlevania reboot since its practically very similar and the same and uses many plot elements from the past Castlevanias.

I guess that means the Bionic Commando reboot was a good reboot cause outside the main battle against Hitler is the only thing I recognized from the old Bionic Commando. I don't recall Spencer's wife being his arm in the old ones...AMAZING REBOOT!

You're missing the point.

WORDS MEAN THINGS.

You said sequel and your ideas a sequel does not make.

 

[Stylish Nero]

You're missing the point.

WORDS MEAN THINGS.

You said sequel and your ideas a sequel does not make.

But what is a sequel?

A sequel (also called a follow-on or follow-up) is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre or music that continues the story of, or expands upon, some earlier work. In the common context of a narrative work of fiction, a sequel portrays events set in the same fictional universe as an earlier work, usually chronologically following the events of that work.[1]
In many cases, the sequel continues elements of the original story, often with the same characters and settings. A sequel can lead to a series, in which key elements appear in a number of stories. Although the difference between more than one sequel and a series is somewhat arbitrary, it is clear that some media franchises have enough sequels to become a series, whether originally planned as such or not.

I mean I basically followed up with every plot point introduced in DmC (the demon and angel war, Dante is still an angel/demon, Mundus's downfall and the after effect, Phineas is still there and freed, the fact that Mundus has mistresses, the demon king before Mundus, I even explained more on the angels involvement, the Order, Kat is still there...in spirit, and as well as Sparda and Eva connection to these angelic or angelic aligned characters).

Is it a sequel because some of the characters in DMC are still there despite being formatted and altered to fit into the DmC universe being nothing like their original counterparts (Argosax no longer being a demon king but a nephilim of a demon king and a female Seraphim (changed it) he captured and raped so she can bore him the ultimate child, Lucia is now just part angel rather than an artificial demon and the only thing similar is their personality granted old Lucia didn't had much and this one has a lot of differences that are based on the old Lucia I even took out the cloning thing).

Just because it uses similar elements to the old DMC (granted DmC did a sh*t ton of that already so what is your point) doesn't make it any less of a sequel since its a follow up with plenty of elements introduced into the story (DmC).

Plus who said I was done, I only talked about the key characters. I didn't even go into detail about the story at all and there were plenty of more story elements from DmC I wanted to build upon and didn't discuss the boss characters that were left out who play a role in the story/universe in some way but the bosses are new bosses in every inch or conceivable way (no similar concept to DMC).

I mean if not a sequel to DmC what is it a sequel to?

 

[Chancey289]

No, you just changed up things to your liking and added things you wanted to see because you want that DMC 5 so bad.

 

[Stylish Nero]

No, you just changed up things to your liking and added things you wanted to see because you want that DMC 5 so bad.

Like what did I change? No really what did I change from the old DmCs and how did I make it like the old DMCs?

 

[Bazilican]

Like what did I change? No really what did I change from the old DmCs and how did I make it like the old DMCs?

I guess its because you added too much of the characters from the original series and not enough new faces to compensate. Plus you put Dante in a red coat too fast and that seems like wanting DmC to be DMC.

 

[Stylish Nero]

I guess its because you added too much of the characters from the original series and not enough new faces to compensate. Plus you put Dante in a red coat too fast and that seems like wanting DmC to be DMC.

....Is that it?

I thought DmC was a parallel universe or something as said in the PR. So there are bound to be parallel characters no?

Plus Beatrice is as much a rebooted version of Trish as Kat is to Lady since they fulfill the same role as a character but as a different backstory. Beatrice and Trish is more different from each other than Kat is to Lady. Plus I was looking at Divine Comedy more for Beatrice's character than I was into DMC same goes to Lucia since in Divine Comedy there is a character named St. Lucia who is a saint or an angel that helps out Dante.

I even considered renaming (DmC) Nero, Rodin......in fact Rodin doesn't sound so bad but I did plan to say Rodin was the name of Nero's father and he was a well........

Oh I guess Dante's hair turning white and Vergil being corrupted by power and him and his brother eventually becoming arch-rivals DmC wasn't turning into DMC.

Plus since when did DmC became its own series with its own unique characters based on what I heard its been stated as another iteration or take on the DMC franchise. That is what I did I made an iteration on the DMC characters. I was basically following what NT set before me. I mean DmC's story was basically DMC1 mixed with DMC3 so I figured hey why not use elements from DMC2 with a pinch of DMC4 (although the only thing about DMC4 is just Nero/Rodin).

I mean I've seen many comic book reboots and as far as I'm concerned mine is pretty different from the original series.

As for the amount of new characters yeah DmC only introduced 3 (one being an alt for Lady) and a majority of the cast being old characters.

Plus I didn't even go into detail about the new boss characters and I even introduced 3 other angel characters.

 

[Gel]

Well, first, DmC is the original DMC games told in only one game, so Kat fit the role of the three girls in only one person.

About Beatrice: in Divina Commedia, Beatrice is a beatific love ,or better a saint. Dante's love for Beatrice was pure and chaste, had no sexual/romantic connotations. How people interpreted in a romantic sense is beyond me, since the chastity of this love is quite well explained in the work.

Your Beatrice is more similar to Trish, with a slighty different background, but in the major tropes they are almost the same.

 

[Stylish Nero]

Well, first, DmC is the original DMC games told in only one game, so Kat fit the role of the three girls in only one person.

About Beatrice: in Divina Commedia, Beatrice is a beatific love ,or better a saint. Dante's love for Beatrice was pure and chaste, had no sexual/romantic connotations. How people interpreted in a romantic sense is beyond me, since the chastity of this love is quite well explained in the work.

Your Beatrice is more similar to Trish, with a slighty different background, but in the major tropes they are almost the same.

Outside being the damsel in distress and that one scene at the end (Kyrie), where is the Oedipus complex, being a demonic human who thought she had a purpose of protecting humans but is a demon clone made for the opposite purpose.

DmC had a plot about a religious group out for world domination or a rich businessman out for immortality and power.

I never went into full detail about Beatrice and Dante's relationship the fact you assumed it was sexual was your own interpretation not mines. I even used a similar plot element in DC to which Beatrice and Dante is in fact can't be together due to Beatrice being with another.

Oh really what tropes? I thought I made it clear I took out the Oedipus complex by not making her look like Eva (well DmC Eva) but in a way represent Sparda and how even demons can love to help Dante with his struggle.

 

[Gel]

Outside being the damsel in distress and that one scene at the end (Kyrie), where is the Oedipus complex, being a demonic human who thought she had a purpose of protecting humans but is a demon clone made for the opposite purpose.

Isn't your Beatrice an Eva's lookalike? Is she a honey trap?If yes, you have your answer to your question. Kyrie is not a oedipal complex. Her trope is "Not blood related incest", as said in TV tropes, since Nero was adopted by her parents.

I assumed by the fact of her being his potential love.It was a a supposition from my part, only that.

 

[Stylish Nero]

Isn't your Beatrice an Eva's lookalike? Is she a honey trap?If yes, you have your answer to your question. Kyrie is not a oedipal complex. Her trope is "Not blood related incest", as said in TV tropes, since Nero was adopted by her parents.

I assumed by the fact of her being his potential love.It was a a supposition from my part, only that.

Please put what you want to say outside the text box.

As for Kyrie I was referring to Trish as you said Kat represents all the girls and I listed the main traits about Lucia and Trish that Kat doesn't have (the Oedpidus complex Trish has on Dante).

As for Beatrice...no she does not look like DmC Eva (she is blonde and blonde because well in DmC all the chicks I've seen Dante banged in DmC were blondes so I thought Dante has a things for blonde) plus Lucia is still a red head and two red heads are good enough.

No she is not a honey trap she does play a similar role but its more a homage to Beatrice and Dante's relationship in DC.

 

[Gel]

Oedipus complex and being a demon is the only things Kat has not: she serves as Dante's guide in game's progression, same thing Trish does; she is willing to protect Dante, like Trish does.Kat calls Dante and brings him into action , making him follow her, Trish does the same.Lady didn't do that.Lucia on calls Dante into action, but doesn't do the rest.

Sorry about the text box, I'm still learning to not mess it up.

 

[Stylish Nero]

Oedipus complex and being a demon is the only things Kat has not: she serves as Dante's guide in game's progression, same thing Trish does; she is willing to protect Dante, like Trish does.Kat calls Dante and brings him into action , making him follow her, Trish does the same.Lady didn't do that.Lucia on calls Dante into action, but doesn't do the rest.

Sorry about the text box, I'm still learning to not mess it up.

Really since when did Trish was a guide. All she told was what was happening (DMC1) and let Dante do the rest. Kat guided Dante step by step as if she was Navi from Ocarina of Time minus being as annoying.

Since when did Lucia called on to Dante that was Matier that called him. Lucia didn't give a damn she was willing to do Dante's job without his help.

Yeah but Kat never tried to kill Dante twice before self sacrificing her self to save him. Since when was Kat willing to protect Dante....she may have helped out a lot but she was also trying to keep Vergil a secret too but even spilled the beans and gave away Vergil's name.....good job Kat.