So...is he stronger?
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788Masri
I'm just some guy who really like Devil May Cry
id actually like to see him try. like id pay to see him actually try and kill alucard even by making him mortal which again is like making an ocean dry while its still full of water. plus alucard killed all his souls again ie his own black soul is more powerful than all the other ones he had combined.
TerrorA
Don't mess with a Mage, bitch.
D killed two different Cosmic Horrors. He forced the Sacred Ancestor to flee. He defied the laws of physics to force an being of Infinite Mass into a finite form to kill it. He's killed both Death Knights and Agents of Paradise, the former being Death incarnate and the latter being beings with TRUE IMMORTALITY (meaning they literally can not die).
Alucard will fall like all the others, in a pool of his own blood.
Alucard will fall like all the others, in a pool of his own blood.
Dante Redgrave
Son of Sparda
Yep, he went from possibly tragic figure to typically stoic unbeatable invincible japanese superhero.
Dusk Stalker
" Everybody gets a bullet!" -Axton
Dante47
Well-known Member
He's the ultimate escapist icon. He's everything that encompasses extreme fiction.
Besides, who wouldn't want Superman's life? He's the ultimate hero.
Beating the bad guy, saving the day, all with a girl on his shoulder. It's pure unadulterated bliss.
TerrorA
Don't mess with a Mage, bitch.
And then the reboot happened, and he turned into a condescending, preachy, hypocritical ass-hat
Dante Redgrave
Son of Sparda
I'm sorry, reboot? you mean teh Post Crisis- Man of Steel mini series by John Byrne? He was much more viable in power levels and more relatable as a characterization with that though! Or do you mean Birthright? Admittedly not needed, but not so ba-
Waitm do you mean this odd "new 52" I hear of from some people? yeah, never happened....NEVER F**KING HAPPENED.
donteXdemon_killahX420
Active Member
You don't like the reboot? what are you some kind of entitled fanboy? can't handle a little change?
pffh
pffh
TerrorA
Don't mess with a Mage, bitch.
I do like some parts of the New 52, but other parts suck
Parts I like: New Aquaman, New Titans, New Blue Beetle, Cyborg as a Justice League member, New Green Lantern
Parts I hate: Superman now acts like Frank Miller is writing him, Super-Wonder romance (for shipping and non-shipping reasons) New Starfire. The erasure of some of the cooler characters and the continued existence of others (You replaced Stephanie and Cassandra with Damien? Why?)
Parts I like: New Aquaman, New Titans, New Blue Beetle, Cyborg as a Justice League member, New Green Lantern
Parts I hate: Superman now acts like Frank Miller is writing him, Super-Wonder romance (for shipping and non-shipping reasons) New Starfire. The erasure of some of the cooler characters and the continued existence of others (You replaced Stephanie and Cassandra with Damien? Why?)
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
D is far more destructive i know but in the end he can't fully kill Omnipresence Alucard but Omni alucard can't also damage him in a meaningful way just like how he can't hurt dante in a meaningful way. The thing is Alucard can just kill D when he was a baby just like how macabre gave an example.
Alucard van hellsing? You mean Vlad tepes Dracula?
Dante Redgrave
Son of Sparda
There's a difference between DmC and new 52; the former was a higher up directive to an outsourced dev team, and the fanboys are throwing the flaming blame at mostly the wrong side. The latter is just a badly inspired and really lacking in real reason reboot done mostly for marketing, and is so shoddy in it's inclusiveness that over half the titles DC publishes were not even affected by a supposed "universe reboot"...so it made continuity even MORE of a nightmare
At least DmC is a seperate universe from Classic. please get your head around that.
donteXdemon_killahX420
Active Member
"a badly inspired and really lacking in real reason reboot done mostly for marketing"
They don't sound so different to me
They don't sound so different to me
Loopy
Devil hunter in training
If you don't like- don't feed. ^_^
Dante Redgrave
Son of Sparda
~puts up sign and an electric fence~ "Do not feed the trolls, they bite off more than they can chew."
Rising Sun
Well-known Member
Alucard van hellsing? You mean Vlad tepes Dracula?
Just for the sake of nitpicking:
Dracula never had a first name in the books. And in the same book he said he was a distant relative of Vladislaus Tepes Draculea. So, either he's a different Dracula, or he was lying and is actually the same person.
Sieghart
"Plough the lilies"
He was a different dracula from a different universe obviously. But their history are the same. He is Vlad the impaler before he became dracula.
Huh, feels like he became Spiderman to me from the few issues I've read thus far, what with his life gradually going to crap and all.
My problem is with Superman's writers. They have this fixation for him to be the "MOST POWERFUL EVAR", and there's always statements about how screwed the entire world/galaxy/universe would be if Superman decides wreck everything, and how thankful they are that Superman is such an awesome guy. Do you ever hear similar for Wonder Woman? Flash? {b]Green Lantern[/b]? Martian Manhunter? If so, not anywhere are constant as it is for Supes.
When the recent reboot happened, it seemed like they were scaling back his abilities and powers somewhat, or trying to be more consistent. But then Superman #13 or so came out and he's shown BENCHPRESSING THE EQUAL WEIGHT OF THE EARTH FOR 5 DAYS STRAIGHT OUT THE VIEW OF SUNLIGHT and barely breaks a sweat. What purpose did it serve to show that? If they wanted to have a story about Supes lifting/moving a planet, why didn't they write one where there was REASON to do that?
But, okay, I can sorta understand, I mean, he's supposed to be equal with the best GLs powerwise, and they do craaazzzzyyy planet+++ level things at times. But I bet you it won't be in the least bit consistent from this point. Hell in that same issue a monster that was strong enough to keep him bound was killed by an ignited explosion of oil at an oil well sight. I would think using heatvision directly on the monster would've been far more effective, but there you go.
I agree, though I like it when he had equal physical troubles too, and not ones where he's just holding back sooooooooooooooo much because he's afraid he'll kill his opponent.
Doomsday for instance used to be a feared character, but they've done all they could over the years to turn him into "just another Superman villain."Ugh. I like Superman, but I'm so sick of them fapping to making him greater than everybody else at the cost of story and other associated characters. It's like when they decide to reign him in, the writers revolt and have him benchpress planets.
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/rant
Shin Muramasa
Metallic Stranger
Off-topic:
Superman's first appearance was in 1938, so before World War II. I guess he was created along with Captain America and whatever heroes as something to bring hope and attention away from the war and what happened during the war. I remember reading something that said Superman is based off of Hercules and Batman was based off of Odysseus. Comics, like many forms of media, are there for entertainment and as an escape. So, sure, when they came up with him, a lot of things didn't make sense or made him overpowered. With Spider-Man, that was the same case, except he was created during the Cold War where nuclear war was running amuck in people's minds. People were scared and demoralized - they needed something to lift their spirits. And that's where Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America, and all these other heroes and heroines come in.
And as time went on, Superman became not-so super. He wasn't the invincible man of steel; he was just a Kryptonian - a superhuman being - who served as Earth's protector. But he is still a symbol of hope to people and in many cases he doesn't have to be so super. Scrub's theme song, "I'm No Superman" and "It's Not Easy To Be Me" are kind of like that. We're not supermen, but we try the best we can to be like him: a symbol of hope.
Also, cartoons like Looney Toons and Disney animations did pretty much the same thing as comics; they were there as an escape and entertainment. And if you look around, there are some offensive shorts made that might not have been considered offensive at the time, but is now.
On-topic:
Like everyone said, we have seen enough to gauge what DMC Dante could do, but we only have one game to gauge what DmC Dante could do. It's kind of like asking who's stronger? Amazing Spider-Man or Ultimate Spider-Man after seeing about three to seven issues of Ultimate Spider-Man and seeing hundreds of issues of Amazing Spider-Man. Although, we can compare between the two at certain time periods. With DMC3 Dante and DmC Dante, I want to say that DmC Dante is stronger because he was more willing to use his powers than DMC3 Dante who at the point rejected but later accepted his demonic heritage. If DMC3 Dante had let loose and never rejected his heritage, I'd safely say, considering he appears to be a much more refined fighter than DmC Dante, that DMC3 Dante would be stronger.
Comparing DMC2 or DMC4 Dante with DmC Dante is like comparing kid Dragon Ball, not Dragon Ball Z or GT, Goku with adult DBZ or GT Goku.