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Please share me your thoughts on how capcom could continue the old dmc series

darkslayer13 said:
because despite his backstory Dante is not really a dark character.
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... which is wasted potential, don't you think? They had the chance to create some kind of half-demon Jackie Estacado and went for Batman's Joker instead.
darkslayer13 said:
he is not the kind of person that would worry about if what he is doing is cool.
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What is Dante's behaviour, if not a constant cry for attention? Surfing on a rocket? Seriously? DMC1 Dante was quiet and cool. DMC 3 and 4-Dante was just batshit retarded, no point denying that.
darkslayer13 said:
and Capcom didn't start focusing completely on appealing to western audiences until DmC. Dante's strawberry sundae habit was mentioned in the Devil May Cry anime.
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Well, DMC1 mentions that Dante is an American mercenary, living in America, slaying demons that are in name and appearance derived from european myth and folklore and the dominant architectural style is gothic (Europe 1140- 1550). His lines in every DMC are also obviously taken from Western pop-culture ("Let's rock, baby! (DMC1)", "Party is getting crazy"(DMC3)).
Well, that, and Kamiya said so himself in an interview I can't find anymore.
 
ReRave said:
... which is wasted potential, don't you think? They had the chance to create some kind of half-demon Jackie Estacado and went for Batman's Joker instead.

What is Dante's behaviour, if not a constant cry for attention? Surfing on a rocket? Seriously? DMC1 Dante was quiet and cool. DMC 3 and 4-Dante was just batshit retarded, no point denying that.

Well, DMC1 mentions that Dante is an American mercenary, living in America, slaying demons that are in name and appearance derived from european myth and folklore and the dominant architectural style is gothic (Europe 1140- 1550). His lines in every DMC are also obviously taken from Western pop-culture ("Let's rock, baby! (DMC1)", "Party is getting crazy"(DMC3)).
Well, that, and Kamiya said so himself in an interview I can't find anymore.
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1. no it is not there are enough completely dark characters out there. most of them are not very interesting.

2. Dante does that kind of thing when no one is looking so it can't be about getting attention.

3. there are a lot of western influences but the Devil May Cry 1-4 and the anime are not 100% about western audiences like DmC. so there is no reason not to add in a few minor details some people in western audiences wouldn't like. the world has moved past the days where dubbed anime had to hide it's country of origin.
 
ReRave said:
Funny, because DMC4 shows a pile of empty bottles in Dante's office.
And then there's the "I got wasted and married a mop, lolsokewlandrandom"-story.
Sounds like an alcoholic to me.
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A CRITICAL wound cause by a sword stabbing Dante's body is not enough to kill him. Do you really believe alcohol will? And how can you be alcoholic when it the alchohol is not affecting you which would be the case with Dante.
 
CoolDemon said:
A CRITICAL wound cause by a sword stabbing Dante's body is not enough to kill him. Do you really believe alcohol will? And how can you be alcoholic when it the alchohol is not affecting you which would be the case with Dante.
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First of all: Dante became so drunk once, he got married to a mop. Get your fluff straight.
Second of all: We might assume that new Dante is not anywhere near old Dante's supernatural potential and the smoking got cut out; Let's assume it didn't, would it hurt him?
 
Hey guys lets not turn this into another "y t3h 0ld dant3 pwnz t3h n3w 0n3" thread
that can be found on any capcom site
Anyway to be honest
Considering all the hate this game is getting it will probably be marked as a spin off rather than a reboot and still get bad sales , which we lead Capcom to realizing that the if the fans =happy than that = lots of $ and then continue the original series. (whatever happens to ninja theory is beyond my concern)

and too be honest yet again this game is undeserving of the hate it is getting , it was ninja theories arrogance that got the game where it is
 
darkslayer13 said:
1. no it is not there are enough completely dark characters out there. most of them are not very interesting.
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Yeah right, people can't stand Batman, Ken from Fist of the North Star, Jackie Estacado, Spiderman Noir, Wolverine and my list is so long, I can't even post all of them, because it would simply blow the proportions of this thread. People LOVE dark heros. That's why people have a raging boner for whatever Vergil does or says (even though he ist just randomly evil and not a hero at all).

darkslayer13 said:
2. Dante does that kind of thing when no one is looking so it can't be about getting attention.
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You are saying, that neither Lady, Vergil, Arkham, Trish, Berial, Baal, Echidna, nor basically any other character who was ever in the same room as Dante are qualifiying for the criterium "looking at Dante, while he does something ridiculous"?

darkslayer13 said:
3. there are a lot of western influences but the Devil May Cry 1-4 and the anime are not 100% about western audiences like DmC. so there is no reason not to add in a few minor details some people in western audiences wouldn't like.
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You do realize that practically everything in DMC is Western, don't you...? I for my part greatly enjoyed it, but the world moved past the point, where cheesy Hollywood-lines are considered "cool". It's called "staying up to date".

darkslayer13 said:
the world has moved past the days where dubbed anime had to hide it's country of origin.
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a) It's impossible for an anime to hide it's country of origin, because of various stylistic reasons.
b) I for my part absolutely detest anime and Eastern pop-culture. There's 3 Manga, at most, that I enjoy reading and I browse mangafox daily. I get your point though, since the world sadly doesn't revolve around me and my opinion.
 
ReRave said:
First of all: Dante became so drunk once, he got married to a mop. Get your fluff straight.
Second of all: We might assume that new Dante is not anywhere near old Dante's supernatural potential and the smoking got cut out; Let's assume it didn't, would it hurt him?
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Dante became so drunk once he married a mop? Where the hell did you get that from?
 
ReRave said:
The Manga. The one that was released after DMC1.
Edit: Or was it the anime...?

"[...] He has a habit of getting roaring drunk; in the first volume of the manga, he mentions getting so drunk that he proposed to a mop."
-http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Dante
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Are you saying that everything that happens in a manga applies to DMC game serie? For example if Dante became a terrorist in a DMC novel would you say "Dante is a terrorist - check out the novel dude".

That's not how it goes. And by logic if a sword stabbed into Dante's chest doesn't hurt him because he has very high regeneration, then how the hell would poisonous alcohol do?
 
CoolDemon said:
Are you saying that everything that happens in a manga applies to DMC game serie? For example if Dante became a terrorist in a DMC novel would you say "Dante is a terrorist - check out the novel dude".
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I must say, that my argument is patchy at best, seeing that I don't know whether that comic is considered canonical or not. If so, then yes, Dante is an alcoholic.
At least, that's what I read out of it. Judging his past, I wouldn't even condescend him.
CoolDemon said:
That's not how it goes. And by logic if a sword stabbed into Dante's chest doesn't hurt him because he has very high regeneration, then how the hell would poisonous alcohol do?
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How would nicotin?
I know that Dante is invincible (he doesn't even need to breath... -.-), yet he shows weakness to certain kinds of threats (Mundus red lightning spears of doom, for example).
 
ReRave said:
I must say, that my argument is patchy at best, seeing that I don't know whether that comic is considered canonical or not. If so, then yes, Dante is an alcoholic.
At least, that's what I read out of it. Judging his past, I wouldn't even condescend him.

How would nicotin?
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In manga you see Dante being alcoholic. In game which is the TRUE media of DMC we see Dante having high regeneration. How many times must i say it? He has high regeneration.

So a slow and toxic alcohol would barely scratch him. Same thing with nicotin.

Or are you saying that taking ONE cigarette or drinking 5 bottles of beer is more severe than a sword stabbed into your chest. Because just like nicotin and alcohol they damage you alot over time - Dante heals overtime. And his regeneration is not slow.

It's.....SUPER FAST :D
 
CoolDemon said:
In manga you see Dante being alcoholic. In game which is the TRUE media of DMC we see Dante having high regeneration. How many times must i say it? He has high regeneration.

So a slow and toxic alcohol would barely scratch him. Same thing with nicotin.

Or are you saying that taking ONE cigarette or drinking 5 bottles of beer is more severe than a sword stabbed into your chest. Because just like nicotin and alcohol they damage you alot over time - Dante heals overtime. And his regeneration is not slow.

It's.....SUPER FAST :D
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It's not like I want this to be true, that's the whole point. It's just stated in the Manga, but I need backup on that, because I can't say which one it was. Until someone with moreexperience on that topic comes here, I'll just quit this.
Can't contribute anymore.
 
ReRave said:
It's not like I want this to be true, that's the whole point. It's just stated in the Manga, but I need backup on that, because I can't say which one it was. Until someone with moreexperience on that topic comes here, I'll just quit this.
Can't contribute anymore.
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1) Does Dante have high speed regeneration?
2) Is a sword stabbed into someone's chest more deadly or taking two cigarette or five bottles of beer? Which is the deadliest, the sword, the booze or the smoking?

Answer these and i will continue.
 
CoolDemon said:
Answer my these two questions:

1) Does Dante have high speed regeneration?
2) Is a sword stabbed into someone's chest more deadly or taking two cigarette or five bottles of beer? Which is the deadliest, the sword, the booze or the smoking?

Answer these and i will continue.
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It doesn't matter, what I think of this, dude. It's either established canon, or it's not, that's not my decision. As I said (you would have noticed, if you read thoroughly, I believe): I know, Dante is invincible. I know he doesn't give a **** about anything, but again: If Kamiya (spiritual father of DMC), who co-worked on one of the comics, says that Dante can get drunk, whom would you believe? Some random fan, who thinks he's right or the creator of Dante himself?
 
ReRave said:
It doesn't matter, what I think of this, dude. It's either established canon, or it's not, that's not my decision. As I said (you would have noticed, if you read thoroughly, I believe): I know, Dante is invincible. I know he doesn't give a **** about anything, but again: If Kamiya (spiritual father of DMC), who co-worked on one of the comics, says that Dante can get drunk, whom would you believe? Some random fan, who thinks he's right or the creator of Dante himself?
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Has Hideki said so? If that's the case then his word is the law.
I would believe creator of course.

Not saying i agree because Dante having high regeneration suggests that he can't be affected by nicotin or alcohol.
But has Hidek said that Dante can get drunk or has he worked with someone? Elaborate on that please :)
 
CoolDemon said:
Has Hideki said so? If that's the case then his word is the law.
I would believe creator of course.

Not saying i agree because Dante having high regeneration suggests that he can't be affected by nicotin or alcohol.
But has Hidek said that Dante can get drunk or has he worked with someone? Elaborate on that please :)
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THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING FOR ALMOST FOUR POSTS NOW:
I do not know, whether this is the comic, that Kamiya worked on and if it is, I don't know, if it's considered general canon.


(a few minutes later...)
Clarification: Yes, Kamiya worked on the Manga, Volume One and supervised the author.
Kamiya made Dante a drunk/ the author made him a drunk and Kamiya didn't want it to be cut out.

("Dante seems to favor Jack Daniel's, a brand of whiskey. He is seen drinking this in the anime and several bottles of it are scattered around his office in Devil May Cry 4's epilogue.")
 
Off topic. The game has no continuity from dmc1 through dmc4. From story line to Dantes personality. The canon is what you make of it really. The anime, I thought, was canon, but if only the games are concidered canon, then dante has no ice cream addiction. And whats wrong with smoking if it does nothing to you? Maybe Dante didnt want to feel different and decided to take up a human addiction to fit in? But to dante smoking has the same effect as chewing gum probably.
On topic. It really al depends on DmC's sales, but the last thing I want to see is a game about backtracking and flashbacks.

Edit:Dante may not get **** faced like I do after a whole bottle of jack, but he is still half human and maybe it only gets him tipsy. The fact that he lost his whole family is a sad but good reason to drink your sorrows away. Especially if it wont kill ya
 
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