Phineas

[Loopy]

This. So much this. I reall thought his role would have been bigger in DmC :ermm: It really is a pitty that they cut his already small amount of dialogue.

I thought he would have a bigger part too, especially when they made that motion capture actors video and Phineas' actor got his own one. But I'm happy with what I did see of Phineas, just wish it was more.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Phineas knew about Mundus' child, and many other things, because he's clairvoyant. It comes from his etymology, where the Greek King Phineus could see the future, and was blinded by the gods for one of several reasons, the most prominent being for guiding humanity by telling them their future. Sound familiar~?

 

[seraphmaycry]

yes no mabye

in seriousness though it still dont beleive some random demon who is locked in prison for thousands of years who would be able to spy on a demon king completely unoticed

what if dmc was real and the greek story was actually true?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Well, what threat could what amounts to an omniscient old codger have to the guy who had the insurmountable power to imprison the guy for eternity anyway?

Even prisoners have TV and newspapers It's not like knowing what's going on in the world can help Phineas escape his imprisonment.

 

[Domenic93]

yes no mabye

in seriousness though it still dont beleive some random demon who is locked in prison for thousands of years who would be able to spy on a demon king completely unoticed

what if dmc was real and the greek story was actually true?

this is DmC a lot of things happen that aren't logical even within it's own universe, and that's saying something :/

 

[seraphmaycry]

actuallly most storys have things like this its really not fair to judge we can't expect thousands if not millions of people to find a book or story or movie where one or just a few little writers wrap everyhting up no questions asked (or one big thing at the very to promt a sequel)



nero is my only real gripe

 

[Loopy]

Well, what threat could what amounts to an omniscient old codger have to the guy who had the insurmountable power to imprison the guy for eternity anyway?Point taken. It's not like Mundus knew Dante would go to where Phineas is being kept. I'm guessing Phineas knew though as he does have some kind of seeing power.

Even prisoners have TV and newspapers It's not like knowing what's going on in the world can help Phineas escape his imprisonment.

And also like prison, guards don't like inmate information getting out of prison.

 

[Domenic93]

Well, what threat could what amounts to an omniscient old codger have to the guy who had the insurmountable power to imprison the guy for eternity anyway?

Even prisoners have TV and newspapers It's not like knowing what's going on in the world can help Phineas escape his imprisonment.

which brings up another question since mundus is supposed to be the most ruthless of the demons, you would question why he even has prisions at all and just doesn't kill them while in limbo, it won't leave a body if they are in limbo. Mundus knows that Phineas is connected to sparda(that's probably why he's in the prison). why would you leave someone like him not in an area that is as impossible to escape as magneto's prison cell. hell why not just kill him to start with, it's the logical move for mundus, phineas betrayed him by helping sparda, even if they are old friends, a ruthless demon king would make an example out of phineas if not sparda, to show all of demonkind that it doesn't matter if you and mundus were close, if you cross him you're dead. also killing one of the only people who knows anything about nephilim that would be willing to help donte

 

[TWOxACROSS]

The prison is for humans, to help with the soul harvesting and all that, and Phineas was probably dumped there because Mundus is an impetuous ruler who does things on angry whims. That's one of the plot points, that Mundus is so impetuous that The Order goes around ruining his sh!t so he'll get angry enough to come out.

Phineas escaping also isn't an option - he's trapped in Limbo, in that prison, he can't leave. He essentially was imprisoned in "Magneto's Cell." He was there for hundreds of years, if he could have gotten out, don't you think he would have...? We wouldn't be having this conversation if he was able to escape, unless he stays there because he looooves getting hassled by harpies all day. Phineas also wasn't imprisoned for "betraying Mundus to help Sparda." He's been there for hundreds of years, remember, a lot longer than Sparda and Eva have been together. Furthermore, Phineas referred to himself as "a political prisoner of Mundus," which means Phineas was imprisoned for having differing views, probably about the genocide of the nephilim.

There's also nothing that says Phineas is the only person who knows about nephilim, and that wouldn't even make sense as to why Vergil and anyone else would know of them if Phineas was the only one. You're overestimating the threat of an eternally imprisoned old guy with knowledge of a "dead race." Yes, knowledge is power, but who would he have been able to help with that knowledge stuck in a prison no one could get to. And at the time of Phineas' imprisonment, there were no more nephilim that could have crossed into the prison anyway, so there was literally no one he could have helped. At the time of Phineas' imprisonment, there was no inclination to believe there was any nephilim for the old guy to help, since he was imprisoned for hundreds of years before Dante's birth. So "also killing one of the only people who knows anything about nephilim that would be willing to help dAnte" means literally nothing, as a hundred years back, there was no one that Phineas could have helped, and certainly no Dante to have ever worried about.

Are you just complaining from a cursory glance at DmC, or what...?