Ninja Theory is Rumored To Reboot Onimusha

[DragonMaster2010]

I don't mind. I've only played like one onimusha game.

Also just because NT is hired to westernize DmC, doesn't mean that they'll treat onimusha the same.

I wouldn't mind a reboot onimusha game since onimusha was only looking good too me until I played the last one in the series.

I say go for it NT, but try to keep the elements of Onimusha relatively the same, while also adding your own spin on what you can do to reinvent the series.

 

[V's patron]

To be fair DMC was already westernized since it had a all white cast and took place in america or europe(so we were told) so it was easier to westernize it.

onimusha would be odd but i would say instead of westernizing it, try modernizing or looking at it like Assassins creed style historical fiction.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

To be fair DMC was already westernized since it had a all white cast and took place in america or europe(so we were told) so it was easier to westernize it.

onimusha would be odd but i would say instead of westernizing it, try modernizing or looking at it like Assassins creed style historical fiction.

They don't even have to modernize it. Look at Heavenly Sword and Enslaved. I think NT can make a reboot of a game and stay true to it's origin of Japanese culture back in the 1800s.

 

[Frazz]

I just want NT to continue DmC but that's just my opinion

 

[ChaserTech]

If NT works on DmC2 at all I say that Capcom needs to dish out a DMC5 at least. A good one that's not a reboot and actually has an interesting story.

I just hope the old Dante doesn't get the Megaman disease.

 

[Frazz]

If NT works on DmC2 at all I say that Capcom needs to dish out a DMC5 at least. A good one that's not a reboot and actually has an interesting story.

I just hope the old Dante doesn't get the Megaman disease.

The problem is... I think (just my opinion) that even though I'd still buy it a DMC5 would be either boring or storyless. Let me explain - Nero being explored would be uninteresting as apart from his origins there is really nothing to explore and his gameplay would still be lackluster (even if they gave him more than one melee weapon). A story with Dante would also be boring because again there isn't much to say about Dante anymore as a character and with no major character developments he himself would be uninteresting. Story wise we'd probably get "the demons are coming" again - in DmC it is "the demos have been enslaving mankind subliminally" which I find more interesting but perhaps it is because I love satire Each to their own I guess...

 

[ChaserTech]

Nero being explored would be uninteresting as apart from his origins there is really nothing to explore and his gameplay would still be lackluster (even if they gave him more than one melee weapon).

Why would his gameplay/story would be boring? Please explain.

I found his gameplay to be quite fun when I first played DMC4. More weapons would create more variety for him. Granted they could even give him the same setup that Dante has in DmC, with altered options for the controls.
Capcom could also explain why he has that arm. Or possibly skip several years into the future and create another storyline for Nero, as well as putting Dante back into the main story (to ease the fans). As a character, we don't know much about him at all. Nothing was explained about him in DMC4.

It was literally this:

Introduce Nero.
Nero is in some society called "The Order".
Nero goes on fetchquest to catch Dante.
Nero then turns around and spends the rest of the game trying to save Kyrie.

The most that people understood is that Nero loved Kyrie and that he had a Devil Arm. We didn't understand his background at all since it was never really explained thoroughly.

 

[TyIquan_DmC]

I doubt this is true, but let's not act like doing this series is above their abilities. They've already shown what they can do with this game, so doing Onimusha would be a cinch, tbh.

 

[Frazz]

Why would his gameplay/story would be boring? Please explain.

I found his gameplay to be quite fun when I first played DMC4. More weapons would create more variety for him. Granted they could even give him the same setup that Dante has in DmC, with altered options for the controls.
Capcom could also explain why he has that arm. Or possibly skip several years into the future and create another storyline for Nero, as well as putting Dante back into the main story (to ease the fans). As a character, we don't know much about him at all. Nothing was explained about him in DMC4.

It was literally this:

Introduce Nero.
Nero is in some society called "The Order".
Nero goes on fetchquest to catch Dante.
Nero then turns around and spends the rest of the game trying to save Kyrie.

The most that people understood is that Nero loved Kyrie and that he had a Devil Arm. We didn't understand his background at all since it was never really explained thoroughly.

Nero's origins (and arm) could be explained in like 5 mins or in a novel. His gameplay would be boring as you just weaken a boss/enemy until you can use the Devil Bringer to finish it so it just gets repetitive (in my opinion) I think new weapons would do him good but to me he just seems like a boring character as he seems to have no flaws as a character - he is just a dead on guy but a flawed character is more interesting to me personally!

To be clear I'd still buy a DMC5 but I'm just very unsure as to whether or not it could be as awesome as DMC1 or 3. I highly doubt a fifth could beat DMC1 though...

 

[darkslayer13]

Heavenly Sword and Enslaved both focus on eastern themes so there is no reason to think that NT couldn't make a reboot of a Japanese game with eastern themes. I don't know anything about Onimusha but considering how well NT and Capcom have worked together on DmC there is no reason to think that a NT version of Onimusha wouldn't be as good or better. The only problem with that idea would be negative reactions to NT.

 

[ChaserTech]

Nero's origins (and arm) could be explained in like 5 mins or in a novel.

If that's the case, Dante's origin story (DMC3) could have been made in a novel. Since it's easily explainable.

His gameplay would be boring as you just weaken a boss/enemy until you can use the Devil Bringer to finish it so it just gets repetitive (in my opinion)

Isn't that the same as the Boss battle in DmC? With Poison, all you do is just Attack, attack, parry, attack some more, Demon pull before Poison recovers to maximize damage output, rinse and repeat until you pull off one of her cords. Repeat entire process until you beat the boss. This boss was A LOT easier than Berial when I fought him in the DMC4 demo mode.

I think new weapons would do him good but to me he just seems like a boring character as he seems to have no flaws as a character - he is just a dead on guy but a flawed character is more interesting to me personally!

How is Nero "flawless"? He's seems to be flawed, more so than the original Dante. "Nero is a serious, sardonic and somewhat anti-social person. He is a choleric character, prone to mood swings, and has been seen to both cry and become very angry multiple times during the events of Devil May Cry 4." - DMC4 wiki. And for the most part, this is quite true since he doesn't seem too keen on talking to people during the game.

Please explain why you think Nero is flawless. I'm kinda curious here.

 

[Frazz]

If that's the case, Dante's origin story (DMC3) could have been made in a novel. Since it's easily explainable.



Isn't that the same as the Boss battle in DmC? With Poison, all you do is just Attack, attack, parry, attack some more, Demon pull before Poison recovers to maximize damage output, rinse and repeat until you pull off one of her cords. Repeat entire process until you beat the boss. This boss was A LOT easier than Berial when I fought him in the DMC4 demo mode.



How is Nero "flawless"? He's seems to be flawed, more so than the original Dante. "Nero is a serious, sardonic and somewhat anti-social person. He is a choleric character, prone to mood swings, and has been seen to both cry and become very angry multiple times during the events of Devil May Cry 4." - DMC4 wiki. And for the most part, this is quite true since he doesn't seem too keen on talking to people during the game.

Please explain why you think Nero is flawless. I'm kinda curious here.

Firstly, yes Dante's DMC3 story could've been done in a novel that is a great point and you proved that Nero could have his own game but as I said before I'd get bored of it/him.

When talking of the repitition I mean on all enemies with Nero - even fodder, with new Dante you only use the chains to pull/ go to enemies. Also bosses such as Bob Barbas cannot be parried from what we've seen so you are wrong in thinking the poison strategy applies to all bosses.

Nero is flawless imo cause his anger and love aren't real flaws, if anything they drive him forward and help him beat all the bosses, therefore they aren't exactly flaws. Also you can't hold his "flaws" against him and they are also generic "flaws" as well, however this is entirely subjective so you can have your own opinions and I can respect that but Nero to me is uninteresting

 

[V's patron]

They don't even have to modernize it. Look at Heavenly Sword and Enslaved. I think NT can make a reboot of a game and stay true to it's origin of Japanese culture back in the 1800s.

More heavenly sword than enslaved because i dont think fans would like post apocalyptic Onimusha. I'll take your word for it since i know nothing of Onimusha.

 

[ChaserTech]

Also bosses such as Bob Barbas cannot be parried from what we've seen so you are wrong in thinking the poison strategy applies to all bosses.

Never did I say that this applied to all bosses. Also, Bob Barbas is pretty repetitive himself, despite fighting an enemy wave after using Angel Lift against him. From what I've seen, you avoid obstacles, use Eryx to weaken him, then Angel Lift. You don't get much variety while fighting the boss. And it also seems as if the bosses that we were shown included a lot of step by step, scripted scenes.

Nero is flawless imo cause his anger and love aren't real flaws, if anything they drive him forward and help him beat all the bosses, therefore they aren't exactly flaws. Also you can't hold his "flaws" against him and they are also generic "flaws" as well, however this is entirely subjective so you can have your own opinions and I can respect that but Nero to me is uninteresting

Fair enough. But it doesn't exclude on Nero being anti-social or having mood swings.

 

[Dante47]

Hey, no double standards people!

Hmm... I've never actually played this series. I'll try it out if they are to reboot it so I can give a fair reaction to the game when it's announced, and also judge it for myself when the game is released.

 

[Sieghart]

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[majeh116]

Capcom asked them to make all the things the fans hate though. They're not to blame.

As for Onimusha, even though it fits more NT than DmC, I don't want them to touch it .

But on another hand we will never have a new game for the series I assume, given Capcom s evolution. :/

on sorry but what on earth is onimusha?

 

[majeh116]

Wait what? Are they crazy or what? They will get even more hate. Onimusha fans will hate this reboot and DMC fans will hate it too, Even thought they don't care about Onimusha but they will just hate everything Ninja Theory do.
Ninja Theory SHOULD stop rebooting games. They really need to look for a new IP. I'm not hating on them, It just won't be a good thing for them.But if they did the reboot in a way Onimusha fans will accept it (Which i doubt tbh) They will get the support they need from Onimusha fans.


But as a DMC fan. I'm actually happy to read this because it means Ninja Thoery aren't going to make DmC2
And Tameem said that NT will not make DMC5. So Capcom can fix everything they did if they started making DMC5 themselves without hiring any studio. DMC and DmC fans will definitely support DMC5.

btw i'm getting DmC, It's a good game. But seriously... It should be the first and the last one, And no more DMC reboots, Nobody wants to see dMC or DMc official trailer by 2013. Everyone wants DMC5.

they already said that they want this to become a franchise and potentially and want both old dmc and new dmc to run side by side

 

[majeh116]

With all due respect I felt Nero what a stereotypical angsty 13 year old shonen character and I felt no connection to him whatever, at the same time I am not a fan of any of the DMC characters excluding Vergil and even then his character is completely shrouded in mystery which is his redeeming quality.

 

[darkslayer13]

With all due respect I felt Nero what a stereotypical angsty 13 year old shonen character and I felt no connection to him whatever, at the same time I am not a fan of any of the DMC characters excluding Vergil and even then his character is completely shrouded in mystery which is his redeeming quality.

1. How exactly does Nero qualify as "angsty". He was a bit emotional about the girl he loves being kidnapped but he didn't sit there and whine about it. He does something about it. Having human emotions doesn't make someone "angsty".
2. He is obviously not 13 years old.

Not liking a character doesn't mean you can't try to describe him accurately.