clairavance;193205 said:If Vergil (the one we KNOW is haughty of his heritage, who looks down on humans as weak, who doesn't want to share his family's history with anybody) really did sleep with a human, which completely defies his character, I'd buy his book just to burn it.QUOTE]
I totally agree.
And regards to burning the book...
:lol::lol::lol:
Nero and Yamato
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Well there is a certain Inuyasha character that hated humans too. Then he had a slight change of heart when he met a certain little girl. He still hated humans in general but cared for the child. Honestly, I think Vergil hated the fact that he was a human and he felt that it was holding him back. Everything isn't black and white. Anyway, the only parts I don't like about the book is a suspected Vergil appearing in Nero's dream and Sanctus thinking he knows everything.
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Aye, Yamato is first and foremost a sword of Sparda that he passed on to Vergil, the same with Rebellion to Dante. Infact, look carefully at it whenever in the cutscenes. Yamato is always surrounded in a purple Aura when Nero holds it, not blue.
You actually can see a LOT of InuYasha parallels in the Twins; the older coldhearted brother who hates humans, and the younger hotheaded brother who finds himself defending them., as well as the blades they inherit from their great legendary father.
As such, Yamato certainly reacted to the blood of Sparda's lineage in Nero, though the fact his own presence and awakening ALONE repaired and healed it says there's a much stronger connection than merely being descended. The idea that Nero is Vergil's son is in fact contradictory to the statements of the developers that Nero was not directly related to the twins. Plus, you have to retcon entire timespans and ages extensively to make Nero Vergil's bastard son. For one, Vergil was 19 in DMC, which is ten years before DMC4. That means even if Nero were 17, Vergil would have to be 11 or 12 when he got some woman pregnant. You also have to understand, a 19 year old, from the PoV of someone Kobiyashi's age, IS a child.
That and as pointed out, the idea of Vergil randomly sleeping with a human woman, let alone a prostitute, is so demeaning to his character that it's basically Bingo's fanwank and whining on his ideas not being used. No doubt, Bingo wanted to make Nero Vergil's son, and was overruled. With how much Deadly Fortune rewrites and contradicts important parts of the game, it really is just his method of trying to force his ideas as "fact". I have little doubt the heads of the project said "fine, write a book, but it doesn't really count." Why novelize the game, when people play it anyway and notice the problems in comparing the two?
On the Tony matter. Episode 8 of the anime explicitly has Dante recall having gone by the name of Tony when he was younger, a clear reference to the events of the first novel...as if the strawberry sundaes weren't enough of a reference. And the Tony in question did in fact look just like a young Dante, and the history sounded suspiciously like Dante's own past; on the run with a mother, hunted by demons. Sounds like it it really was Dante, and he had blocked out the memories, since everyone seemed to recognize him in that episode on sight as Tony, then the mother in question would have actually been Nell Goldstein raising him, confirming the theory that she was his "adopted" mother after Eva died.
You actually can see a LOT of InuYasha parallels in the Twins; the older coldhearted brother who hates humans, and the younger hotheaded brother who finds himself defending them., as well as the blades they inherit from their great legendary father.
As such, Yamato certainly reacted to the blood of Sparda's lineage in Nero, though the fact his own presence and awakening ALONE repaired and healed it says there's a much stronger connection than merely being descended. The idea that Nero is Vergil's son is in fact contradictory to the statements of the developers that Nero was not directly related to the twins. Plus, you have to retcon entire timespans and ages extensively to make Nero Vergil's bastard son. For one, Vergil was 19 in DMC, which is ten years before DMC4. That means even if Nero were 17, Vergil would have to be 11 or 12 when he got some woman pregnant. You also have to understand, a 19 year old, from the PoV of someone Kobiyashi's age, IS a child.
That and as pointed out, the idea of Vergil randomly sleeping with a human woman, let alone a prostitute, is so demeaning to his character that it's basically Bingo's fanwank and whining on his ideas not being used. No doubt, Bingo wanted to make Nero Vergil's son, and was overruled. With how much Deadly Fortune rewrites and contradicts important parts of the game, it really is just his method of trying to force his ideas as "fact". I have little doubt the heads of the project said "fine, write a book, but it doesn't really count." Why novelize the game, when people play it anyway and notice the problems in comparing the two?
On the Tony matter. Episode 8 of the anime explicitly has Dante recall having gone by the name of Tony when he was younger, a clear reference to the events of the first novel...as if the strawberry sundaes weren't enough of a reference. And the Tony in question did in fact look just like a young Dante, and the history sounded suspiciously like Dante's own past; on the run with a mother, hunted by demons. Sounds like it it really was Dante, and he had blocked out the memories, since everyone seemed to recognize him in that episode on sight as Tony, then the mother in question would have actually been Nell Goldstein raising him, confirming the theory that she was his "adopted" mother after Eva died.
Thanks for the link Zato 
Going on the translation posted there... can you imagine Vergil having to make sense of all the contradictory junk Capcom is throwing out at us? (I thinks I just got inspired to draw a manga of this,haha) And Dante being 'meh, I don't care really, I'll just accept whatever I hear about Sparda'... I got a feeling that's what capcom thinks fans of DMC would do. Just accept it all without question or judgement. But then capcom probably doesn't give a rats' *** about the fans...
And, again, instead of clearing up the 'wtf' moments in the game, they steer away from it in the novel and substitute it with something else, which contradicts what we know happened in the game. I can't believe that any hardcore DMC fan would take these novels seriously.
And, I beg to differ about Dante 'imitating' Vergil's style when using Yamato. I don't know if this is just the dude's POV or whether Capcom said so, but Dante couldn't NOT have ever used Yamato. He used it in DMC3, and he looked pretty comfortable using it, and going on the whole jackpot scene (and the manga), I always presumed that neither of them had an actual weapon that was 'theirs' until they split up.
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...Nero Claudius Augustus... :lol::lol::lol:
Sorry, I've gone off topic again...>_<
Going on the translation posted there... can you imagine Vergil having to make sense of all the contradictory junk Capcom is throwing out at us? (I thinks I just got inspired to draw a manga of this,haha) And Dante being 'meh, I don't care really, I'll just accept whatever I hear about Sparda'... I got a feeling that's what capcom thinks fans of DMC would do. Just accept it all without question or judgement. But then capcom probably doesn't give a rats' *** about the fans...
And, again, instead of clearing up the 'wtf' moments in the game, they steer away from it in the novel and substitute it with something else, which contradicts what we know happened in the game. I can't believe that any hardcore DMC fan would take these novels seriously.
And, I beg to differ about Dante 'imitating' Vergil's style when using Yamato. I don't know if this is just the dude's POV or whether Capcom said so, but Dante couldn't NOT have ever used Yamato. He used it in DMC3, and he looked pretty comfortable using it, and going on the whole jackpot scene (and the manga), I always presumed that neither of them had an actual weapon that was 'theirs' until they split up.
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Yeah, right. That's contradictory on so many levels...*bangs head into desk*
...Nero Claudius Augustus... :lol::lol::lol:
Sorry, I've gone off topic again...>_<
Dante Redgrave;193208 said:
Bingo is not saying that was a fact, it was an assumption by Sanctus that Vergil slept with a prostitute. He also assumed that Vergil was the father of Nero. And Sanctus was wrong about a lot of things in DMC4. HE THOUGHT HE COULD OWN DANTE!!!:lol:Now come on, you really think he would make Nero out to be a son of a prostitute? There has to be some reason Capcom is co-signing the novel.
^:lol: Anyway back to the toic, since nero is related to dante and vergil in a way, how do ypu think this is and by who?
I think Nero is something to do with Sparda. And not with the twins.
Would Vergil really want to 'mate' with a human if he hates them so much?
Would Vergil really want to 'mate' with a human if he hates them so much?
Vergil'sB*tch;194109 said:
If he truly hated humans then he would also hate his mother. He hates the fragile bodies of humans and how weak they are. Further more, the reason why he dislikes being half human is because he probably feels incomplete or that his human side is holding him back. Now I don't think he really cares for humans except his mom or possibly some lucky mystery woman(Nero's Mom). He probably could care less what happens to them. He hates demons but at the same time admire their power. Hes pretty much neutral against humans.
I read the DMC Novel (the first one with Tony & Gilver). If the books are canon to the series how the hell does Nero have Yamato when tony defeated gilver and the Yamato 'crumbled into dust because it had lost it's master'.
Capcom really wanna think before they make other media canon to the series!
(The novel took me five hours. five hours over two nights! I thought it was quite good.)
Capcom really wanna think before they make other media canon to the series!
(The novel took me five hours. five hours over two nights! I thought it was quite good.)
posession
have you ever dreamed of nero using the yamato it would be better than devil trigger form or vergil's spirit will posess nero's body take control of him and fought dante saying:this is not over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^_^
have you ever dreamed of nero using the yamato it would be better than devil trigger form or vergil's spirit will posess nero's body take control of him and fought dante saying:this is not over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^_^
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If I can recall, Agnus mentioned taking demon souls and experimenting with them and he said something about experimenting on Yamato, and considering the time gap between DMC 1 and 4, I wouldn't put it past the Kobyashi (I think that's his name, can't remember) to make it seem as something like that would cause Nero's powers. But its a mere guess really...