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Misconceptions about Sparda.

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(These are just a list of common complaints against/about Sparda which I can only attribute to people not being very knowledgeable of the DmC mythos or just plain not paying attention.)

1)"Sparda is a B****"
Sparda: Someone who is willing to go against rigid ancient boundaries, brave enough to suffer eternal torture for his family, and having enough hindsight to plan for the demise of his tormentor after his death.
Definition of a B****: "a person who is completely subservient to another"

2)"Sparda is a B**** because he didn't stand and fight"
The only thing that can kill a demon king is a nephilim. This is clearly stated in DmC's main campaign, he literally stood no chance.
What you've said is the equivalent of calling someone a b**** for not fighting a nuke.

3)"He should have stood and fought anyways, for honor."
To quote The Last of Us: "That is a stupid ****ing idea."
It would have resulted in nothing more than getting him and his family killed if he just tried to fight Mundus head on.

4)"He's not a Demon King anymore."
Forgivable mistake, but still wrong.
It is not stated in the main campaign but is said in The Chronicles of Vergil, that Sparda is indeed a demon king.

5)"His horns are small." In the picture where he is depicted having small horns he still looks mostly human, which means he has not completely transformed yet. So you can't say either way.
 
I liked the origins of DmC's Sparda much more than DMCs only because Sparda didn't wander off and seal himself away. He actually got taken away and since the demons couldn't kill a demon king, they locked him up for all eternity and now that I think about it, if Mundus is gone and there's not any other demon kings to reinforce Sparda's captivity, then what's stopping him from getting away or even contacting one of his sons?

As we all know the comic displayed the telepathy between Sparda and Dante.

Anyone else love how Sparda never asks to be freed? That's badass to me.
 
I liked the origins of DmC's Sparda much more than DMCs only because Sparda didn't wander off and seal himself away. He actually got taken away and since the demons couldn't kill a demon king, they locked him up for all eternity and now that I think about it, if Mundus is gone and there's not any other demon kings to reinforce Sparda's captivity, then what's stopping him from getting away or even contacting one of his sons?

As we all know the comic displayed the telepathy between Sparda and Dante.

Anyone else love how Sparda never asks to be freed? That's badass to me.
Now we're thinking of the same page!
I like that DmC2 could set up a sequel for Sparda to join Dante to stop Vergil from going crazy with power.

For me, I prefer Sparda's back story, after-planning, sacrifice, and possible resurrection from DmC, but prefer the power and mystery of Sparda from DMC.
Now that is combining the best of both DMC worlds!!
 
having enough hindsight to plan for the demise of his tormentor after his death.

Where did you get this from?

2)"Sparda is a B**** because he didn't stand and fight"
The only thing that can kill a demon king is a nephilim. This is clearly stated in DmC's main campaign, he literally stood no chance.
What you've said is the equivalent of calling someone a b**** for not fighting a nuke.

3)"He should have stood and fought anyways, for honor."
To quote The Last of Us: "That is a stupid ******* idea."
It would have resulted in nothing more than getting him and his family killed if he just tried to fight Mundus head on.

4)"He's not a Demon King anymore."
Forgivable mistake, but still wrong.
It is not stated in the main campaign but is said in The Chronicles of Vergil, that Sparda is indeed a demon king.

If Sparda's a demon king, why exactly wouldn't he be able to fight Mundus? That's basically a nuke fighting a nuke, no?
 
Where did you get this from?



If Sparda's a demon king, why exactly wouldn't he be able to fight Mundus? That's basically a nuke fighting a nuke, no?
He hide Dante and Vergil and gave them Rebellion and Yamato.(Also hid several other weapons in the house for them.)

You would be right on your second point if not for the fact that Mundus has an army of demons on his side and a hell gate which gives him power almost beyond limit.
While Sparda only has two toddlers and a single Angel.
 
In DMC Sparda beat back Mundus. He just couldn't stop him from returning. He should've kept returning just as Mundus, which would demonstrate that Mundus has many more connections and abilities than Sparda.

In short, Sparda and Mundus are practically Dante and Vergil only difference is Dante is the immortal one and Vergil isn't.

The difference in DmC is that they're Nephilim and opens a door to the celestial involvement.
 
Another misconception I occasionally hear is Mundus and Sparda being blood brothers in a biological way, instead of comrades that sworn loyalty to each other.

If Sparda's a demon king, why exactly wouldn't he be able to fight Mundus? That's basically a nuke fighting a nuke, no?
To add what the others said, not all Kings are created equal.
 
He hide Dante and Vergil and gave them Rebellion and Yamato.(Also hid several other weapons in the house for them.)

Wouldn't that be expected in the case your kids were hunted down and would probably make their way back home someday?

You would be right on your second point if not for the fact that Mundus has an army of demons on his side
While Sparda only has two toddlers and a single Angel.

But it wasn't an army, it was just the SWAT.

Another misconception I occasionally hear is Mundus and Sparda being blood brothers in a biological way, instead of comrades that sworn loyalty to each other.

That's not a misconception but rather a theory since the term could actually mean that they were biological brothers. I like to believe so because it adds a certain kind of depth to the story.

To add what the others said, not all Kings are created equal.
Mundus has a hell gate which gives him power almost beyond limit.
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That depends on what kind of polyarchy the demons had.
 
Wouldn't that be expected in the case your kids were hunted down and would probably make their way back home someday?



But it wasn't an army, it was just the SWAT.
Expected or not, he equipped Dante and Vergil to defend themselves and to take down Mundus.

No, Mundus is THE king of demons and has demonstrated several times that he can summon hordes upon hordes of demons.
 
No, Mundus is THE king of demons and has demonstrated several times that he can summon hordes upon hordes of demons.
Besides, it's implied in the Vergil comic that SWAT and other law enforcers are sometimes demons. So maybe SWAT in the game are demons in disguise. That would explain how Vergil got the kablooey weapon and why it looks different in Limbo.
 
Expected or not, he equipped Dante and Vergil to defend themselves and to take down Mundus.

No, Mundus is THE king of demons and has demonstrated several times that he can summon hordes upon hordes of demons.

He didn't equip his sons to fight Mundus, he gave them weapons to survive and to grow in their potential. If he did, why erase their memories for protection or why wasn't Dante properly trained to fight?

And didn't you just say that Sparda was a demon king? Either way it goes, the game portrays the attack as being in the human world and small in scale, consisting of only a few SWAT members.

Besides, it's implied in the Vergil comic that SWAT and other law enforcers are sometimes demons. So maybe SWAT in the game are demons in disguise. That would explain how Vergil got the kablooey weapon and why it looks different in Limbo.

SWAT in the game were normal humans. Dante couldn't see them clearly neither could he do anything to them from Limbo.
 
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He didn't equip his sons to fight Mundus, he gave them weapons to survive and to grow in their potential. If he did, why erase their memories for protection or why wasn't Dante properly trained to fight?



And didn't you just say that Sparda was a demon king? Either way it goes, the game portrays the attack as being in the human world and small in scale, consisting of only a few SWAT members.

Why wipe their memories? They were toddlers, so they probably wouldn't have been able to keep secrets well.
Why no training for Dante?
He was toddler when his parents were killed. So any training before that would have been insignificant.

Yes Sparda is a demon king but he was only Mundus's right hand man. Mundus is the one who leads the demons.
And in which seen do they show or say the attack only consisted of a few swat members?
 
Why wipe their memories? They were toddlers, so they probably wouldn't have been able to keep secrets well.
Why no training for Dante?
He was toddler when his parents were killed. So any training before that would have been insignificant.

Yes Sparda is a demon king but he was only Mundus's right hand man. Mundus is the one who leads the demons.
And in which seen do they show or say the attack only consisted of a few swat members?

Dante and Vergil were 7 when their parents died, not toddlers. Training at a young age isn't impractical since kids take up martial arts at about and even younger than Dante's age. And if he was concerned about keeping secrets, why send them off to two different, potentially unsafe places instead of a place where their secret would be safe or why wasn't he worried about them remembering prematurely?

And again that goes back to what kind of polyarchy the demons had, assuming that they had one.

It is in Dante's flashback scenes when he gets to his old house. The scene shows human SWAT and not that many of them; no demons were involved in the attack.
 
I really want to know, how comes, that Vergil was brought into decent family, where he had access to all modern technology, and Dante was brought into some demonic orphanage, where he was abused. Could it be, that Sparda was actually quite a jerk and to protect Vergil, he decided to sacrifice Dante?
 
I really want to know, how comes, that Vergil was brought into decent family, where he had access to all modern technology, and Dante was brought into some demonic orphanage, where he was abused. Could it be, that Sparda was actually quite a jerk and to protect Vergil, he decided to sacrifice Dante?
Maybe Sparda wasn't aware demons owned the place? Or it was making the best choice out of a bad situation.

I thought Vergil was sent to an ophanage too, but was saved from it by adoption into a wealthy family and then worked on making his own money through security programming? But, that information about him wasn't explained much in game, just in press release articles.
Also, Vergil would have escapted a lot of the horrors Dante suffered because Mundus and the other demons had no idea that Vergil was the other son of Sparda.

As for Dante, maybe he escaped the orphanage before he could be adopted? In the Barbas fight, he does say that Dante was good at escaping.
 
Well. I still find it strange that Sparda didn't knew that main Nun was actually demon. As for Vergil it looks reasonable. As for Mundus didn't knew that Vergil Sparda's son, didn't he looks just like Dante?
 
Vergil and Dante were split up and sent to different orphanages, and Vergil was lucky enough to be taken in by affluent family.

I'd imagine that a demonic matron wasn't there when Dante was originally brought in, either. People change jobs all the time, and Dante might have been okay if he hadn't always lashed out like he does.

As for Mundus didn't knew that Vergil Sparda's son, didn't he looks just like Dante?

There's little reason to assume that Dante and Vergil are exact clones of Sparda. They are the genetic product of two parents, and we don't see Sparda's face to begin with :p
 
Yea, Vergil and Dante were as far apart as they could be and Vergil just got lucky.

And I don't think Dante stayed very long at the orphanage. I always assumed he ran away and has been on his own for quite some time and just running in to demons was a unfortunate things all growing boys with a rare lineage just have to deal with heh.

Dante has been just alone for a very long time. Growing up with little understanding of what's really going on living on the streets for the most part I assume. F#ck, I'm willing to bet maybe he jacked the trailer he was staying in I mean, who lives in a trailer on a pier?
 
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