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Man...Capcom should've waited...

Lionheart1991 said:
Yeah, it would've been a good idea for them to just finish the DMC series first. That way, I doubt there would be much outrage, if any at all. But now Capcom (or at least the Devil May Cry games) has lost a lot of consumers because of their behavior, and even Ninja Theory is seen as a heartless developer by some. I don't think they can be blamed, though - I heard a long time ago that it wasn't their idea to change so much about DMC. Capcom told them it wasn't good, and they had to start over. So they probably had very little time to come up with their own version of Devil May Cry, and it got us a mediocre game as a result.
Besides, you don't reboot something when it's not dead yet, otherwise you get the response - by a large part of the fanbase - that DmC got. DMC4 is seen as a failure by hardcore fans, but it really isn't; have you seen the review scores it got? Aside from that, it sold VERY well, so there's no sense in thinking it ended the DMC series. I could see it as filler, but a failure? Not at all.
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not even a filler a new chapter in the series a chance for something new and refreshing should there have been less backtracking ..GODS YES.. should dante have had his own levels..GODS HELL YES.. should nero been a tad less weepy..maybe..and should nero of had his origins explained by the end of the game and have been given a full DT..OH HELL YES YES!!!..but otherwise great graphics..great scenes..great characters and enemies..great plot.. it was a great game the same game that got me to like devil may cry
 
VOLPE said:
not even a filler a new chapter in the series a chance for something new and refreshing should there have been less backtracking ..GODS YES.. should dante have had his own levels..GODS HELL YES.. should nero been a tad less weepy..maybe..and should nero of had his origins explained by the end of the game and have been given a full DT..OH HELL YES YES!!!..but otherwise great graphics..great scenes..great characters and enemies..great plot.. it was a great game the same game that got me to like devil may cry
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Yeah, DMC4 was the game that got me back into the series, after I sort of lost interest due to many other games being released around 2006 and later. It made me go and buy the HD Collection.
 
Vergil'sBitch said:
Why wait? No matter when it happened, this reboot would've most definitely had the same reaction (regardless of console gen).
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Why do you think that? Let's say the DMC series had ended. Let's say Capcom had announced that clearly, and made one last game (DMC5) to end it. Why would people be just as outraged as they were when they heard DMC5 was not being developed, but DmC was?
 
Lionheart1991 said:
Why do you think that? Let's say the DMC series had ended. Let's say Capcom had announced that clearly, and made one last game (DMC5) to end it. Why would people be just as outraged as they were when they heard DMC5 was not being developed, but DmC was?
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Because there would've probably been cries that the original series should've been carried on (I believe there is a thread about fans being hard to please, well, that's my logic... not that all fans are like that).
 
Vergil'sBitch said:
Because there would've probably been cries that the original series should've been carried on (I believe there is a thread about fans being hard to please, well, that's my logic... not that all fans are like that).
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Yeah, that probably would happen, but I really don't think the outcry would be as bad as when you're essentially replacing DMC with DmC, by not developing DMC5 and leaving it hanging.

I mean, there's plenty of game series that have simply ended and haven't come back - I actually don't see many people make a fuss about that; they just accept it. As long as it literally ended, came to a close, the curtain fell, then why whine about the fact that the curtain had fallen? Wasn't there this game on PC with three Vikings? The Lost Vikings, I think. Fun, but I haven't looked back since it disappeared. If MGS5 is going to be the last MGS, fine. No sense in telling the developer to continue the series if he doesn't have any ideas.
 
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I would agree since next gen systems tend to boost sales a little and I think most of the negativity towards DmC comes from fans wanting progression and closure so them finishing the franchise in ps3 era before re-starting in the ps4/next gen era.

But the question remains would Capcom be able to do a DMC5 that actually resolves things and has a sense of finality to or would they be able to avoid the PR nightmare DmC fell in.
 
Z218 said:
I would agree since next gen systems tend to boost sales a little and I think most of the negativity towards DmC comes from fans wanting progression and closure so them finishing the franchise in ps3 era before re-starting in the ps4/next gen era.

But the question remains would Capcom be able to do a DMC5 that actually resolves things and has a sense of finality to or would they be able to avoid the PR nightmare DmC fell in.
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Sure, they could do a game about what happens after DMC2, right? Maybe make one where Nero tries to save Dante or something. Or, if Sparda is technically still alive, have him (or otherwise his soul) meet Dante. DmC was a PR nightmare because they smack talked about the fanbase and were generally a bit apathetic to everything. They probably thought it was cool or something. Anyway, DMC5 simply needs to be a good game, like DMC1 or DMC3.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
It begins...
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It begins when people keep lying and bringing up nothing substantially factual >.<

I don't really want to get into it again, but I just cannot stand for the bullsh!t surrounding the PR. Was it bad? Yes, but more-so because of oversensitive fans that have made it their Mission (Let's rock, baby!) to take things out of context and make the game seem bad in the public eye.
 
TWOxACROSS said:
Why would you continue to say things like this when you know I'm going to call you out on it :/
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...So? The world does not revolve around you. I don't sit here waiting for you and only you to reply, oh great master O_o
You always have *something* to pick on, no matter how small, don't you? Just don't, because I don't care to hear it. DmC was in fact a PR nightmare, I simply responded to someone who said it was (z218):

''But the question remains would Capcom be able to do a DMC5 that actually resolves things and has a sense of finality to or would they be able to avoid the PR nightmare DmC fell in.''



It was a PR nightmare, and not just because 'those bloody fans had to ruin everything' or something. This is not Scooby Doo. I can't seriously ignore what Tameem said and think it was all due to the fans. And that's the end of it. You can answer, but I'm not going to reply.
 
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I think even they did do a DMC5 that wrapped things up and was final, i would not recommend rebooting it in the next gen since i feel at that point they should just make a new ip and have it forge its own identity.

i think the initial problem had with DmC tgs 10 was that it was so different you couldn't recognize it as Devil May Cry. It reminded me of the movies Constantine and Wanted which were adaptations of the source material that changed so much they could have gotten away with making them new ips.
 
Lionheart1991 said:
...So? The world does not revolve around you. I don't sit here waiting for you and only you to reply, oh great master O_o
You always have *something* to pick on, no matter how small, don't you? Just don't, because I don't care to hear it. DmC was in fact a PR nightmare, I can't seriously ignore what Tameem said and think it was all due to the fans. And that's the end of it. You can answer, but I'm not going to reply.
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I don't always have something to pick on. This is like the one thing out of everything that I will fight tooth and nail because it's utter bullsh!t. I'm not calling you a hater or anything, but it's spreading misinformation yo. The burden of proof is on you to divulge legitimate sources of "smacktalking" or even insulting the fans, ones that aren't taken wholly out of context. In the years of poring over every bit of info for DmC I could get my hands on, I saw nothing definitive. At all.

In the end, don't say things without having proof to back it up - it's not commonly accepted fact, it's commonly accepted fallacy. The PR was in fact a nightmare, but it was due in large part to the fans taking things out of context, making mountains out of mole hills, or just in general making sh!t up sometimes.

Z218 said:
i think the initial problem had with DmC tgs 10 was that it was so different you couldn't recognize it as Devil May Cry.
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Still think they should have at least opened with the CG Trailer, it showed a much better proof of concept for Limbo, and showed off combat that was more stylish than brutal. I liked the TGS 2010 trailer for the concepts it proposed, but it did little for making me think "Devil May Cry." Then it took an entire year to get an in-engine combat trailer >.<
 
aoshi said:
At one side, you admit DMC 5 can be an epic fail and you also find 'reboot' unwanted.
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I only found the reboot unwanted at the time just because they didn't finish the original series yet, despite how f*cked up things were with DMC4. But now, I'm thinking it was needed, just not too soon(which was why I was mad back when they first showed the TGS10 trailer). I just wished Capcom should've started doing the DmC concept last year.
TWOxACROSS said:
In the end, don't say things without having proof to back it up - it's not commonly accepted fact, it's commonly accepted fallacy. The PR was in fact a nightmare, but it was due in large part to the fans taking things out of context, making mountains out of mole hills, or just in general making sh!t up sometimes.
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Ah yes, the 4-chan Vergilsaurus bullsh*t which happened literally a year and six days ago. :laugh:
 
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