Isn't the story kinda sappy ?

[MedicoreR]

Vergil thinks power must be on good hands.
Dante thinks power must be destroyed.

The story is very well written. Best story of Devil May Cry game.

 

[darkmanifest]

While Dante see's humans as equals. He believes that they can make the right decisions when true freedom is given to them.

I don't think it's so much that Dante thinks very highly of humans in general - Kat in particular, sure, but he's pretty much indifferent to the rest of us. But the one thing Dante's fought for all his life is the freedom to live as he chooses. So it's not that he believes humans are inherently good and won't turn the planet into a hellhole as much as the demons ever did, only that we have the right to make own own choices, even if they're disastrous ones.

It makes his position the extreme opposite of Vergil's, true anarchy, and just as dangerous for it. I mean, what's Dante going to do, go find a new trailer to chillax in while people start burning everything down?

 

[Dante Redgrave]

"This world is under my protection now."

Honestly, I think Dante, push come to shove, will protect humanity even from itself, but not as a tyrant or a dictator, but as a dark guardian angel who will let it make mistake and make sure humanity learns from them. He's seen both the good and bad in mankind, and wants to let humanity have the freedom to choose which each person will nurture...the idiots like Arkham who will invariably crop up...will be meeting the business end of Rebellion.

 

[Soupie]

"This world is under my protection now."

Honestly, I think Dante, push come to shove, will protect humanity even from itself, but not as a tyrant or a dictator, but as a dark guardian angel who will let it make mistake and make sure humanity learns from them. He's seen both the good and bad in mankind, and wants to let humanity have the freedom to choose which each person will nurture...the idiots like Arkham who will invariably crop up...will be meeting the business end of Rebellion.

Nah, he's more likely to set up a shop called "Devil May Cry" and make a business out of the fact that humans need a protector.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Well, yeah, he's gonn'a make money off of it, he's a dark angel, not a saint. ~_^

 

[DarkSlayer54]

I don't think it's so much that Dante thinks very highly of humans in general - Kat in particular, sure, but he's pretty much indifferent to the rest of us. But the one thing Dante's fought for all his life is the freedom to live as he chooses. So it's not that he believes humans are inherently good and won't turn the planet into a hellhole as much as the demons ever did, only that we have the right to make own own choices, even if they're disastrous ones.

It makes his position the extreme opposite of Vergil's, true anarchy, and just as dangerous for it. I mean, what's Dante going to do, go find a new trailer to chillax in while people start burning everything down?

Yeah, that makes more sense. Especially if this Dante eventually decided to open up a shop.

 

[ROCKMAN X]

didn't know shooting unborn demon babies makes you a light hearted character, also, leaving your closest friend to die

If i recall that baby wasn't so cute -_- i would kill a demon baby too.. no sweat

yeah he's cruel but he isn't as extreme and cold as older vergil his new character reminds me of someone who just wants to be evil rather then being forced to... and 99% he's double crossing everyone

and this is why the storytelling is better

Yes of course it is and the gameplay... plz tell me is it good enough ? is it better then Dmc4 ??

 

[DragonMaster2010]

If i recall that baby wasn't so cute -_- i would kill a demon baby too.. no sweat

yeah he's cruel but he isn't as extreme and cold as older vergil his new character reminds me of someone who just wants to be evil rather then being forced to... and 99% he's double crossing everyone

Dude. Vergil completely sliced to pieces a bunch of thugs, just because they touched his katana and tried to mug him. That's pretty cold in my book.


Yes of course it is and the gameplay... plz tell me is it good enough ? is it better then Dmc4 ??

To me, I'll have more fun with DmC then DMC4.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

I had more fun with DevilMayCry4.
Skip this, get HeavenlySword keep DevilMayCry4 & you pretty much got a better version.

Alot of the stages seemed reused with different looks.

And i saw the Sessler's review, i don't like him but i agree with alot of what he said.

Most understandable story but that highlights how uninteresting it is.
Adolescent
Puerile
And nowhere near as clever & sassy as the game thinks it is.
Like it's from a 12yr old that found his older brother's collection of heavy metal magazines. lol.

Things the so-haters have been saying since they've seen the early trailers.

Nope. Still will never touch DMC4.

But I didn't have a problem with it so that's all that matters.^_^

 

[wwinterj]

It's like Vergil is in a moral 'grey area'. He honestly thinks he is doing the right thing. But in the real world, killing a child is a big taboo, and Vergil crossed that line easily. It makes me wonder what else he could do if he can kill a mother and child so easily.

A child? He killed a demon and it's spawn, that by the way wasn't even born yet. Hardly the same as killing a pregnant woman now is it? When you fight the Mundus Spawn as Dante and had you killed it would you be saying the same thing about Dante? I doubt it.My mind really is blown by people who compare this to killing a child/pregnant woman.

 

[HaNGMaN]

I had more fun with DevilMayCry4.
Skip this, get HeavenlySword keep DevilMayCry4 & you pretty much got a better version.

Alot of the stages seemed reused with different looks.

And i saw the Sessler's review, i don't like him but i agree with alot of what he said.

Most understandable story but that highlights how uninteresting it is.
Adolescent
Puerile
And nowhere near as clever & sassy as the game thinks it is.
Like it's from a 12yr old that found his older brother's collection of heavy metal magazines. lol.

Things the so-haters have been saying since they've seen the early trailers.

Okay I have seen this everywhere, typically in flaming wars on forums, but what is bad about DmC's storytelling, whereas DMC series is good? I enjoy both versions, and I do notice differences, but I'd appreciate some clarification. I'll leave any other points alone until I can get a response to remain fair and unbiased.

 

[HaNGMaN]

Ok well from the trailers i've seen, the reboot has the dialog of GTA with cut scenes trying to bring forth the emotion equal to final fantasy while taking itself way too serious.

The original DevilMayCry was written like final fantasy that wasn't taking itself seriously.
It was over the top & had fun with it.

Okay I can see where you would develop that opinion, and I can respect that. I've taken it as a different way, where it's more truthful to a teen's story of being faced with overwhelming odds but still having the mouth of an asshole teen.

 

[ROCKMAN X]

A child? He killed a demon and it's spawn, that by the way wasn't even born yet. Hardly the same as killing a pregnant woman now is it? When you fight the Mundus Spawn as Dante and had you killed it would you be saying the same thing about Dante? I doubt it.My mind really is blown by people who compare this to killing a child/pregnant woman.

Exactly that wasn't even close to being "Evil"

Old vergil has more class this vergil is more like a human being... double crossing everytone with tactics and politics and stuff

Old vergil was more of a fantasy character as @VampireWicked Said

I just can't take the fact that Vergil actually verbally acknowledges that he "Loves" dante that's just... so funny

Skip this, get HeavenlySword keep DevilMayCry4 & you pretty much got a better version.

Alot of the stages seemed reused with different looks.

I'll wait for Bayonetta 2 to go multi-platform

heavenly sword tries too much to be a cinematic action movie

 

[darkmanifest]

A child? He killed a demon and it's spawn, that by the way wasn't even born yet. Hardly the same as killing a pregnant woman now is it? When you fight the Mundus Spawn as Dante and had you killed it would you be saying the same thing about Dante? I doubt it.My mind really is blown by people who compare this to killing a child/pregnant woman.

It's true, had Dante killed Lilith and the spawn in the nightclub when they were trying to eat his face, nobody would feel the same way. That's exactly why the scene was framed the way it was, we're meant to draw parallels with killing a helpless pregnant human. The context of the situation (killing a murderous demon and her monster baby) is overwhelmed by the appearance (the belly of a more or less normal woman exploding as she screams in agony over her child and weeps incoherently until she's killed, too). We're supposed to feel shocked and disgusted by this scene, which is why Vergil is the one to do it as part of his moral downfall, and not Dante, because Dante is the hero and he can't get down like that. The problem is, some people feel it went too far to get the desired reaction.

 

[788Masri]

...He actually says "I loved your brother" WTF is wrong with him ?

this isnt mega evil vergil from DMC3. this is the predecessor to him. the guy who DOES love his brother. lets not foget that the only other nephilim in existence is Dante. so the only person like him is his twin brother. it makes it all the more heart breaking knowing that their bond as the last of their kind and brothers is being shattered.

 

[Kishido]

People just forget that this Vergil is a young version and we have something as the upcoming sequel named Vergil's DOWNFALL.

Just wait a bit or for 2 games to actually judge characters.

 

[Loopy]

People just forget that this Vergil is a young version

Yep, it says on Raptor news that Dante is in his 20s, so they're both young. People change a lot during the 20s, so there's time for character change.

 

[Kishido]

Yep... But maybe you are stucked in your 20s.

And still you forgot one important thing. Vergil's DOWNFALL. we know nothing of the old I'm "evil" Vergil how he was before he dissapeared from Dante years before

 

[Loopy]

Yep... But maybe you are stucked in your 20s.

And still you forgot one important thing. Vergil's DOWNFALL. we know nothing of the old I'm "evil" Vergil how he was before he dissapeared from Dante years before

I know that DLC is coming out. It'll be good to get more added to Vergil's character using that. Although I do think Vergil is quite 'evil' already. I wonder what else he is capable of?

When you mean 'old' Vergil, you're referring to DMC3, right? I don't think he'd be exactly the same as DMC3 Vergil.

It was a shame that classic Vergil was left a mystery. Sure, the manga covered some of his actions the year before he met up with Dante in DMC3, but nothing prior to that.
I'm hoping with new Vergil that there will be more to his past and more to learn about him in the DLC.

 

[788Masri]

did anyone else see the expression on Vergils face when he fights Dante. it was like a cruel joy. or something. freaked me the hell out.