How would you fix DMC2?

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Matier needed a bigger part too, be cool if she was a relative of sparda or eva in some way.

 

[V's patron]

Matier needed a bigger part too, be cool if she was a relative of sparda or eva in some way.

She could be related to Eva as Eva is a blank slate outside of being Dante's mom.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Anything would be better than the way they shoehorned her in originally

 

[V's patron]

Anything would be better than the way they shoehorned her in originally

Lucia has a ninja vibe so you could Matier a scout-type character.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

I see her more as a mage type tbh, uses the elements and spells for combat when she was younger.

 

[V's patron]

I see her more as a mage type tbh, uses the elements and spells for combat when she was younger.

That's fine. I just meant she would help guide Dante around Dumary island.

Like Freya in God of War Ragnarok. Before she joins Kratos in combat, she travels with him in Vanaheim.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Ya her being a guide would be cool, she could have shed more light on sparda too.It is a shame she was not fleshed out more.

 

[V's patron]

@berto
Do you have any insight on what the original version of DMC2 was? I knew it was cobbled together from existing ideas and had a different protagonist.

 

[berto]

@berto
Do you have any insight on what the original version of DMC2 was? I knew it was cobbled together from existing ideas and had a different protagonist.

I remember a few details on the matter. I know that one concept was to replace Dante with a man on a green jacket. There was also talk from Kamiya that whatever team Little Devils were going to use for their DMC2 ended up going into Bayonetta 1. The director of that first draft equated cool with stoick, not lively. He was also an old employee of Diesel, which is how we got the collaboration. From the look of things, personal opinion here, the guy was more interested in the look of the game than the actual development so nothing became concrete till Itsuno was tasked with the project.

There are a few videos on youtube that go into whatever details are available. One of them is from what happened and I think that was the most detailed one I've seen.

Here's some more.

Not sure how much they'll say on the original concept, I haven't finished the Tony one and the other I only saw once ages ago.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Make the guns less powerful and the enemies more powerful

Make ddt more like sin dt in how it is used, so it is not super op

 

[blackblur187]

by firing the person who thought dante was cheesy.

 

[V's patron]

by firing the person who thought dante was cheesy.

Quiet Dante never felt like an improvement to me.

In the anime and 2 he's a total bore.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Quiet dante is not really dante at all, more like a bad lookalike.

His personality is what most of us love about the character.

 

[V's patron]

A transition to a quieter character could work but the series never pulls it off.

It wouldve been better to use a different character altogether. The game has larger problems but it wouldve been easier to keep the lead characters but leave the game in the past. Rather than dance around it like they did pushing 2 after 4 but then changing their minds with 5 and pushing it back before 4.

In hindsight, Quiet Dante would be a better foil for Nero and Crazy Dante would be better for Lucia.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

If they had brought reuben in for 2, it may have injected some life into dante.

 

[V's patron]

If they had brought reuben in for 2, it may have injected some life into dante.

Im not sure because he felt lifeless in the anime. But both stories are in need of a rewrite so maybe he can add some flavor to it?

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

He may have had more personality in 2 for the parts dante actually had some one liners or wasn't a mute or stoic

Reuben is just naturally a more upbeat guy.