Getting mad over Dante cursing huh?

[Breaking8ad]

get a room guys or block each other. i dont know how or why this **** started but it needs to stop. this isnt gf and i didnt come here for more bickering. @ toocool and @nightrunner.

everyone is entitled to their opinion. the staff is going to likely sit you both in your respective corners if you dont learn to avoid conflict with each other.so report all you like, neither is completely wrong or right and to solve a war you have to take out both sides. so thats my negotiation for today.you both have a happy new years

 

[chocolateghost79]

get a room guys or block each other. i dont know how or why this **** started but it needs to stop. this isnt gf and i didnt come here for more bickering. @ toocool and @nightrunner.

everyone is entitled to their opinion. the staff is going to likely sit you both in your respective corners if you dont learn to avoid conflict with each other.so report all you like, neither is completely wrong or right and to solve a war you have to take out both sides. so thats my negotiation for today.you both have a happy new years

ToCool has had this argument ended since page 1, everybody else are the ones bringing it back up.

 

[Breaking8ad]

probably because i have no interest in reading further do i post without care of whether it is ended or not. it will continue somewhere else and...you know what? i dislike using the block features but until i know this crap has finished tainting my experience in my favorite forums i will force myself to use it.

 

[chocolateghost79]

probably because i have no interest in reading further do i post without care of whether it is ended or not. it will continue somewhere else and...you know what? i dislike using the block features but until i know this crap has finished tainting my experience in my favorite forums i will force myself to use it.

Well it has ended so no need to bring up anymore. Let's just move on with the topic at hand.

 

[BLACKSWIPE]

What annoys me the most is how people seem to explicitly hate on this game, just because of how he curses. I mean come on? A young-man, who was thrown from place to place, and exposed to intense violence isn't going to have one of the most friendly tongues on earth would he now? I personally like it, it adds a sense of rawness and something that 'can't be tamed' into this character. Its a new insight to a new Dante and adds on a sense of rebellion into this new character.

People need to stop it with this, to me the gameplay counts a bit more than what comes out of his mouth.

 

[Breaking8ad]

topic at hand: this game is rated m for mature. this argument reminds me of the whole violence in video games argument. but i dare not tread those sensitive and mirky waters

 

[BLACKSWIPE]

topic at hand: this game is rated m for mature. this argument reminds me of the whole violence in video games argument. but i dare not tread those sensitive and mirky waters

Exactly my point. Its absolutely annoying, what are people expecting? For Dante to politely kill a demon?

 

[ChaserTech]

Exactly my point. Its absolutely annoying, what are people expecting? For Dante to politely kill a demon?

Some of us just don't prefer unnecessary cursing.
Like I said earlier, I felt that it was forced within the dialogue. That's my general idea of it.

If it's executed well, then yeah I wouldn't mind it. But as of now I kinda dislike it from what I've seen.

 

[WorkenOnMaLeft]

hes just an angry dude dont bother.

 

[Suzaku18XD]

Suzaku to the rescue!!!!! Okay everyone let's please not start this again. It always ends up with a thread getting locked up and the key thrown into Mount Doom. It starts with someone saying one thing, then a guy/girl posts something really smart, person who starts the thread gets ****ed. ALWAYS HAPPENS!!!! You people are how old again? I'm 18 and I don't have time to deal with a bunch of kids.

Seriously everyone, let's all just chill out and try for once to have a forum where everyone can respect everyone

 

[DarkSlayer54]

Seriously everyone, let's all just chill out and try for once to have a forum where everyone can respect everyone

:/
We're past this.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but any mention of the derailment just annoys me. The best thing is just ignore the derailment entirely, especially since it hasn't been mentioned in several posts. I'm not making a good example of this since I just mentioned it, but eh... feel free to flick me.

As for swearing... if it's not overboard, I don't mind. I disliked it in the demo, but as long as the swearing doesn't get in the way to his one-liners then I'm fine with it.

 

[Chancey289]

People complaining about Dante cursing was just them looking for things to bitch about. I think they were all grasping for straws with DmC. How the hell do these people complain about swearing but do it in comments that are full of fanboy rage swearing over and over again? No one said Dante couldn't swear and I'm 20 years old why would that bother me. I actually liked the back and forth between Dante and that disgusting puking demon. It was definitely more entertaining than hearing him yell something lame like "flock of featherface" which just made me facepalm. Why do they think Dante's cool again? The conversations sound more down to earth and natural and isn't playing on these cartoon stereotypes to make up the dialogue. Sure it's not the best I've ever heard but what can I say, it just sounds more natural. I don't expect nothing more but I also don't expect nothing less. It's fine and the voice actors are doing a pretty good job from the looks of it.

 

[Suzaku18XD]

:/
We're past this.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but any mention of the derailment just annoys me. The best thing is just ignore the derailment entirely, especially since it hasn't been mentioned in several posts. I'm not making a good example of this since I just mentioned it, but eh... feel free to flick me.

As for swearing... if it's not overboard, I don't mind. I disliked it in the demo, but as long as the swearing doesn't get in the way to his one-liners then I'm fine with it.

Yea this was kinda for future reference considering I already know its gonna happen again. Kinda late because just got off work a couple hours ago I just really want this forum to be more, I guess friendly, because it invites more people to the forums, especially when they see they won't get sideswiped by a comment a member makes.

 

[Suzaku18XD]

:/
We're past this.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but any mention of the derailment just annoys me. The best thing is just ignore the derailment entirely, especially since it hasn't been mentioned in several posts. I'm not making a good example of this since I just mentioned it, but eh... feel free to flick me.

As for swearing... if it's not overboard, I don't mind. I disliked it in the demo, but as long as the swearing doesn't get in the way to his one-liners then I'm fine with it.

Oh and sorry about that mentioning it and everything, just something I wanted to put that out there. My bad lol

 

[Angel]

As much as I'm not a big fan of swearing, I can see why Dante in this game would curse. It makes sense and it keeps it pretty realistic in my eyes because, like it or not, people in life swear. Some of them cannot utter a sentence without cussing and others keep it to "witty" retorts or particular events or circumstances. To make Dante never swear in this reboot would be, to me, a bit odd given the persona he appears to demonstrate. I remember watching an ad years ago for a company called ITC (now defunct) in the UK which was in charge of ensuring that TV before a certain time of day did not include excessive or "unnecessary" cursing - it kind of hit the nail on the head for me about swearing because it showed a mocked-up clip of a criminal being arrested by police in a fictional TV show and he was saying "just you wait, you horrible people. when I get these nasty handcuffs off, we're going to have a serious chat about this".

The point intended by the advert was that yes, they were a censoring company, but they did not expect to have to censor everything because it would be unrealistic and, to a degree, unenjoyable for many people because it wouldn't be engaging enough to get into if all violent criminals spoke like that, as an example. Yes, it is perfectly possible to write dialogue that is intelligent and to the point without resorting to swearing but provided it is written well and with a degree of propriety and not just slammed in everywhere for shock value, then I think it works.

Personal preference is that swearing is never used as a medium for conveying what could otherwise be said using a bit of intelligence and a wider vocabulary. But the realist in me says, "why not?" if done right. And don't forget, what some people see as a swearword is not viewed that way by others. No matter what happens, you can't avoid annoying someone at some point with the words being used.

Also, I'm not addressing the weirdness of the previous few pages because I think it's resolved itself and because no one here is dumb enough to start it again and think nothing will happen

 

[GF9000000Returns]

I just hope many of you understand that I'm not trying to start anything, all I am doing is asking why cussing in games is a big deal when this game was determined to be rated "M"?

And for the people who are trying to stay on-topic, I appreciate that. Once again, I wasn't trying to start anything at all.

 

[8BitHero]

To copy-paste my points form the other thread.

If you have a problem with swearing:
1) You aren't mature enough to hear a swear word and act sensibly (like a normal person about it)
2) You shouldn't be playing DMC games as they are rated 18 (UK rating for me)
3) You're dumb for buying an 18 rated game and then complaining when you get 18 rated content
4) You also fail to acknowledge that DMC4 had swearing....or EVERY OTHER GAME...
5) You should watch this video
I got report for that post as well, by a certain member on here. ;D

I've drawn comparisons between others game before like Gears, Resident Evil, GTA, House of the Dead: Overkill goes OVERBOARD(In a comedic way) with sweaing and SO many other games yet, DmC isn't allowed a pass on anything. GTA can pass on swearing because it makes sense. DmC isn't allowed a pass on swearing because it's immature. Two games rated 18 yet DmC is the one with the problem. If there's anything I've learned recently is that DmC will never be treated fairly nor will people admit to being stubborn kids not wanting to admit they're wrong. I also made the point that Dante shows no respect to the bosses(Poison/Mundus), as you would to a foul mouthed monster yet(!) doesn't swear to Vergil or Kat. I don't get why people act like swearing doesn't exist. We all swear, and when it happens in a game, why is that bad exactly? I've already shown DMC had swearing in it's past titles.

Batman and Dante share a similar past and present. But Batman is cool, Dante is an Emo fa99ot trying to be cool.
GTA and DmC have swearing but no-one cries foul over GTA but DmC only
DMC4 Nero and DmC Dante taunt bosses. Nero tells Sanctus to "blow me". DmC Dante says "You don't look a day over twelve hundred". Nero is cool, DmC Dante is childish.
The script for DmC sucks yet they never admit that DMC holds one the worst lines EVER in video game history (I should've been the one to fill your dark soul with liiiiiiIIIIIiiiight)

Remember the huge BS the American News media stirred up with Mass Effect 1 being all about sex yet we all told 'em to stuff themselves because, basing an entire game on one scene is pathetic. You have no clue what you're talking about and are basing an entire game on that one scene. This applies to DmC, basing an entire game on 3 eff yous is pathetic because there's more to the game than that one scene.

 

[LeoXCV]

To copy-paste my points form the other thread.

If you have a problem with swearing:
1) You aren't mature enough to hear a swear word and act sensibly (like a normal person about it)
2) You shouldn't be playing DMC games as they are rated 18 (UK rating for me)
3) You're dumb for buying an 18 rated game and then complaining when you get 18 rated content
4) You also fail to acknowledge that DMC4 had swearing....or EVERY OTHER GAME...
5) You should watch this video
I got report for that post as well, by a certain member on here. ;D

Remember the huge BS the American News media stirred up with Mass Effect 1 being all about sex yet we all told 'em to stuff themselves because, basing an entire game on one scene is pathetic. You have no clue what you're talking about and are basing an entire game on that one scene. This applies to DmC, basing an entire game on 3 eff yous is pathetic because there's more to the game than that one scene.

1) Already said I like Borderlands 1/2 and DLC. Which has more Cursing than this game will ever have yet I liked it.
2) Just because you don't like swearing doesn't mean your not suited for 18+, if I was to follow that rule I wouldn't have many games. (Also I'm guna be pedantic, it's 16+ in the UK, but age ratings I find irrelevant anyway)
3) It's not really the fact that I don't like the content, just the way it's been executed.
4) See No.1 . Also that "Beginning to **** me off" isn't exactly overused in the scene and it fits the situation for me. If it flies over your head that he just swore it's probably well executed.
5) Didn't watch it fully, but the parts I did watch all I can see is them getting technical about it. It does not change my own opinion and feelings towards the matter, therefore irrelevant.

And I base all my opinions on what I have seen, I've watched hardly any spoilers. Of course I'm going to base it on how they've chosen to show me what's in the game. If the end game doesn't continue with this kind of stuff, that's great, I won't have much to be annoyed at. If they do end up doing this then It'll just be too annoying to me. It did in GTA4 actually since it became tedious. I didn't stop playing, but it doesn't change the fact that for me it was getting repetitive.

What I don't get is why no one seems to understand that it's not the content me and many others are annoyed about, it's the execution. I'm annoyed at the writer for thinking an F' you exchange was the most compatible match for that instance. For me it had no comedic effect, nor any impact on emotions, like those exchanges were just empty filler to drag out the scene.

 

[Azurel]

snippity snip

Reminds of when Scarface was censored for TV. Unintentional hilarity, right there. :lol: (If anyone has access to that, I'd be really grateful for the link, btw)

That 'horrible people' catchphrase is going right on my signature.

One a side note: I don't like how the OP is being hassled simply for asking an honest question. And snide answers from ''skeptics'' who have played the demo, seen the review scores, and have had every chance to decide for themselves, simply aren't satisfactory. If the game is that bad, they don't even have to post.

I myself have posted the problems I've had with the game without being insulting about it. I think others can do the same as well.

 

[Angel]

I've yet to come across someone who is genuinely affronted by the language itself; as Leo has already pointed out, it's more the context and the way it's been put across. But that's not a harsh criticism for people to make because if anything it demonstrates that fans believe the franchise to have more to it than random splurges of profanity - it's a game that does not have to rely on shocking people to bring in the stats. And that can only be seen as a positive thing, that fans have higher expectations of DmC. If no one cared at all then perhaps that would be more of a testament to how uninterested people are - the fact that it's ruffling feathers, to me, shows that there is a desire there for the game to do well despite being different and not what people have expected.

If the entire game ended up being a curse-fest from beginning to end, then that would indicate very little thought to the scriptwriting process. And I think there is too much riding on this title to be that lazy.