This is taking Angel's question in regard in the thread about Parallel Universes:
I have been a fan of Devil May Cry since I first bought the first game and played it. The action, the story, the gameplay, and of course the characters. I am one of the minority who thinks DMC2 is the better game, leaner graphics and gameplay, Dante's appearance is the best in that game and I simply adore Lucia, being a big fan of ninja/assassin inspired characters. DMC3 offered with alot of new stuff to the gameplay, much of it seeming unnecessary and sometimes even confusing, but it's the game with the best story so far, in my opinion.
My fangasm was put to a halt with DMC4. I do like the story, the graphics are nice, but the gameplay was boring and I really dislike how Nero just looks like a younger Dante. Though the story is quite nice, it really leaves alot of questions to be answered, such as Nero's origins etc.. The story just seemed out of place.
I am a supporter of the new DmC. I like the new Dante's looks and the ideas of the living demonic world which interact within the gameplay. Also, I am a fan of Ninja Theory's way of telling some great stories through videogames, finding Heavenly Sword and Enslaved to be quite good, even if the gameplay isn't life-changing or anything, however, they have some stable gameplay. To me, the story of a game is a big part of what grabs my interest of a videogame. It is my first priority. Second is gameplay, third is graphics... As long the story catches my attention, the ladder two don't have to be amazing. Of course bad gameplay can ruin it for me, so it at least have to be stable and playable gameplay.
As I have mentioned in another thread, I understand Capcom's decision by giving Devil May Cry an overhaul with this new DmC. And because I like what I have seen so far, I support it.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I DO NOT LIKE THE ORIGINAL SERIES!
I am getting the HD collection just so I can play through them again!
With all that in mind, now to the questions that Angel asked.
To me, a fan is someone who sticks to what they like. It doesn't matter if it is videogames, music, books... To be a fan is to like something with a certain passion, not to be confused with a fanatic who almost has a sick relationship to something. For example, a Michael Jackson fan is someone who loved his music and what he did in life and of course is saddened by his death - a fanatic is someone who thinks his/her life ended the day MJ died, and then commits suicide because the fan has lost his/her reason to live.
I am not fanatic about Devil May Cry. I can look past the appearance changes that Dante's been through. I can look past the fact that he is now a half-demon/-angel. I can look past that DmC has no direct connection to the original series. If the game has a great story and some nice gameplay, then I will probably become a fan of that game as I am a fan of the original series.
But also as a fan, I can see the negative things of the videogame. As said, I am not a fanatic - I don't have to totally love EVERYTHING about the games to be a fan. For example, that Dante more or less was invincible in the original series annoyed me. He is half a demon, but he is also half a human, however, the human traits were severely lacking which could at times make him unrelatable and a rather one-dimensional character. It was the rare moments when he actually showed his humanity that made me like him.
In DmC, Dante doesn't seem to have any humanity in him, being a mix of divine and demonic heritage, yet from what we saw from the first trailer, he was weak, he was vulnerable, he could feel pain, he has a weakness and what appears to be an addiction to smoking... He is ALOT more relatable now, alot more human than he's ever been before. And I see that as a positive sign.
Storyline wise, we haven't been exposed much of it, other than Dante seems to have been summoned to Limbo City by someone, possibly the hooded girl we've seen in some trailers, and that the city appears to be a living, demonic entity in itself... That's it. I am expecting much from NT in the story department though, so I really hope they won't disappoint me.
The graphics look nice and the gameplay looks interesting... If it goes on 30fps instead of 60fps doesn't really mean much to me. I have to try the game before I can judge if the gameplay is good or not. I can only say that from what we have seen in trailers that the gameplay looks cool. I just wish the scythe would be demonic instead of angelic though, as I tend to lean more to the dark side, but still, the fact that Dante can wield a scythe in this game thrills me - the scythe is one of my favourite weapons of choice in videogames.
I wouldn't say I am a fan of DmC though. Yes, I am being positive and supportive of the game, but I haven't tried it yet. I know only as much as the rest of you, and it is far from enough to make me form a final opinion about it. I just like what I have seen so far which is why I am staying positive.
However, I am outraged when someone tells me I cannot like both games. It's like saying that if I like Bayonetta, a game similar to Devil May Cry, then I must dislike DMC. It's like saying that if I like Heavenly Sword, then I must dislike God of War, as those two games also have quite similar gameplay. It's like saying that if I like Mortal Kombat, then I must dislike Street Fighter...
I'm a videogame fan. I like videogames, preferable Action/Adventure, RPG's and fighting games. And I can be a fan of several titles. As I said above, a fan doesn't have to love EVERYTHING about a game to be a fan of that game. To me, that is on the border of being fanatic. And in my eyes, many of the raging fans seem rather fanatic to me.
There are some sceptics of DmC who have earned my respect on this board who have shown me their point of view, have explained their opinions and why they have such opinions without ultimately judging the game. They are sceptics and with good reason. Alot of changes are coming along with DmC, changes they deem unnecessary, but they have still shown respect and understanding towards supporters like me. And they are just as much fans of Devil May Cry as I am, we are just on each side of the spectrum.
One point I have yet to mention: the hardcore fan. I see a hardcore fan to be one who follows every aspect of the game. I'm a more casual fan, as I only follow the games where a hardcore fan also likes the animé, the books, the comics, the toys, the collectibles. Being a hardcore fan means to have a deep passion for something WITHOUT being fanatic about it.
Taking Michael Jackson as an example once more - where a casual fan buys his music, a hardcore fan also buys the merchandise, goes to his concerts, buys his biography etc., and the hardcore fans were those who cried their eyes out when he died, but knew life would go on and are now honouring his memory. It is dedication without being extreme.
As a last note... I don't believe in anything called a "true fan". Calling yourself a true fan is putting yourself on a piedestal, looking down on others and seeing yourself as better than other "lesser" fans. That is just plain arrogance and ego-tripping, in my opinion.
I hope that gave a clear vision on how I percieve things about Devil May Cry in general and what being a fan means to me. ^^
First: How are people within this thread defining the word "fan" when they respond? Just to get some idea of why there may be such volatile responses - if we're not all meaning the same thing then that could be the cause of some of the friction perhaps?
Second: Why can someone not like two games equally which are similar (within the context of what CoolDemon means by similar)?
I have been a fan of Devil May Cry since I first bought the first game and played it. The action, the story, the gameplay, and of course the characters. I am one of the minority who thinks DMC2 is the better game, leaner graphics and gameplay, Dante's appearance is the best in that game and I simply adore Lucia, being a big fan of ninja/assassin inspired characters. DMC3 offered with alot of new stuff to the gameplay, much of it seeming unnecessary and sometimes even confusing, but it's the game with the best story so far, in my opinion.
My fangasm was put to a halt with DMC4. I do like the story, the graphics are nice, but the gameplay was boring and I really dislike how Nero just looks like a younger Dante. Though the story is quite nice, it really leaves alot of questions to be answered, such as Nero's origins etc.. The story just seemed out of place.
I am a supporter of the new DmC. I like the new Dante's looks and the ideas of the living demonic world which interact within the gameplay. Also, I am a fan of Ninja Theory's way of telling some great stories through videogames, finding Heavenly Sword and Enslaved to be quite good, even if the gameplay isn't life-changing or anything, however, they have some stable gameplay. To me, the story of a game is a big part of what grabs my interest of a videogame. It is my first priority. Second is gameplay, third is graphics... As long the story catches my attention, the ladder two don't have to be amazing. Of course bad gameplay can ruin it for me, so it at least have to be stable and playable gameplay.
As I have mentioned in another thread, I understand Capcom's decision by giving Devil May Cry an overhaul with this new DmC. And because I like what I have seen so far, I support it.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I DO NOT LIKE THE ORIGINAL SERIES!
I am getting the HD collection just so I can play through them again!
With all that in mind, now to the questions that Angel asked.
To me, a fan is someone who sticks to what they like. It doesn't matter if it is videogames, music, books... To be a fan is to like something with a certain passion, not to be confused with a fanatic who almost has a sick relationship to something. For example, a Michael Jackson fan is someone who loved his music and what he did in life and of course is saddened by his death - a fanatic is someone who thinks his/her life ended the day MJ died, and then commits suicide because the fan has lost his/her reason to live.
I am not fanatic about Devil May Cry. I can look past the appearance changes that Dante's been through. I can look past the fact that he is now a half-demon/-angel. I can look past that DmC has no direct connection to the original series. If the game has a great story and some nice gameplay, then I will probably become a fan of that game as I am a fan of the original series.
But also as a fan, I can see the negative things of the videogame. As said, I am not a fanatic - I don't have to totally love EVERYTHING about the games to be a fan. For example, that Dante more or less was invincible in the original series annoyed me. He is half a demon, but he is also half a human, however, the human traits were severely lacking which could at times make him unrelatable and a rather one-dimensional character. It was the rare moments when he actually showed his humanity that made me like him.
In DmC, Dante doesn't seem to have any humanity in him, being a mix of divine and demonic heritage, yet from what we saw from the first trailer, he was weak, he was vulnerable, he could feel pain, he has a weakness and what appears to be an addiction to smoking... He is ALOT more relatable now, alot more human than he's ever been before. And I see that as a positive sign.
Storyline wise, we haven't been exposed much of it, other than Dante seems to have been summoned to Limbo City by someone, possibly the hooded girl we've seen in some trailers, and that the city appears to be a living, demonic entity in itself... That's it. I am expecting much from NT in the story department though, so I really hope they won't disappoint me.
The graphics look nice and the gameplay looks interesting... If it goes on 30fps instead of 60fps doesn't really mean much to me. I have to try the game before I can judge if the gameplay is good or not. I can only say that from what we have seen in trailers that the gameplay looks cool. I just wish the scythe would be demonic instead of angelic though, as I tend to lean more to the dark side, but still, the fact that Dante can wield a scythe in this game thrills me - the scythe is one of my favourite weapons of choice in videogames.
I wouldn't say I am a fan of DmC though. Yes, I am being positive and supportive of the game, but I haven't tried it yet. I know only as much as the rest of you, and it is far from enough to make me form a final opinion about it. I just like what I have seen so far which is why I am staying positive.
However, I am outraged when someone tells me I cannot like both games. It's like saying that if I like Bayonetta, a game similar to Devil May Cry, then I must dislike DMC. It's like saying that if I like Heavenly Sword, then I must dislike God of War, as those two games also have quite similar gameplay. It's like saying that if I like Mortal Kombat, then I must dislike Street Fighter...
I'm a videogame fan. I like videogames, preferable Action/Adventure, RPG's and fighting games. And I can be a fan of several titles. As I said above, a fan doesn't have to love EVERYTHING about a game to be a fan of that game. To me, that is on the border of being fanatic. And in my eyes, many of the raging fans seem rather fanatic to me.
There are some sceptics of DmC who have earned my respect on this board who have shown me their point of view, have explained their opinions and why they have such opinions without ultimately judging the game. They are sceptics and with good reason. Alot of changes are coming along with DmC, changes they deem unnecessary, but they have still shown respect and understanding towards supporters like me. And they are just as much fans of Devil May Cry as I am, we are just on each side of the spectrum.
One point I have yet to mention: the hardcore fan. I see a hardcore fan to be one who follows every aspect of the game. I'm a more casual fan, as I only follow the games where a hardcore fan also likes the animé, the books, the comics, the toys, the collectibles. Being a hardcore fan means to have a deep passion for something WITHOUT being fanatic about it.
Taking Michael Jackson as an example once more - where a casual fan buys his music, a hardcore fan also buys the merchandise, goes to his concerts, buys his biography etc., and the hardcore fans were those who cried their eyes out when he died, but knew life would go on and are now honouring his memory. It is dedication without being extreme.
As a last note... I don't believe in anything called a "true fan". Calling yourself a true fan is putting yourself on a piedestal, looking down on others and seeing yourself as better than other "lesser" fans. That is just plain arrogance and ego-tripping, in my opinion.
I hope that gave a clear vision on how I percieve things about Devil May Cry in general and what being a fan means to me. ^^