dmc reboot?

[TWOxACROSS]

The only mention of anime inspirations was Dante being based on Space Adventure Cobra. He looked a heck of a lot like him until they gave Dante a trenchcoat halfway through DMC1's development. You can actually still see remnants of his earlier design in a lot of the tutorial renders in the game, where his coat only goes to his hips

But yeah, I don't remember any other anime/manga being a base, just an inspiration. What else was there?

You are confusing a lot of terms man.
DmC was first stated to be a reboot all things considered, but the huge backlash made it go and rethink it's status as that. So now it's a re-imagining of the DMC universe, meaning that it takes place in it's own world: an alternate universe where DMC and DmC can still exist as separate series a la Megaman (Legends/X/Zero/etc) franchise.

Oddly enough, all of the Mega Man franchises are part of one big timeline :s That's why I never used it to explain alternate universes, because they're all in the same one.

EDIT: Whoops, I was right to question myself - all of the Mega Man series is in one timeline, except for the Battle Network and Starforce series, which exist in their own. So...yeah...alternate universe still stands for Mega Man as well

 

[V's patron]

there are alot of unofficial sources of inspiration like DMC3 being compared to Inuyasha, the anime being a less successful version of Cowboy bebop and 4 being compared to Bleach. But those can be just fans drawing comparisons.

I would say a change was needed in regards to how DMC was written but i wouldn't say the reboot is the only option. Its just the easiest option as rebooting allows for a clean slate.

revamping is the other option and it is trickier because it requires you to actively use continuity which is something capcom doesn't seem interested in doing given how vague the series can be.

most unanswered questions/plot holes/timeline concerns etc would have been squashed by now had they just taken the time to address it in the games themselves.

 

[YamatoWielder]

there are alot of unofficial sources of inspiration like DMC3 being compared to Inuyasha, the anime being a less successful version of Cowboy bebop and 4 being compared to Bleach. But those can be just fans drawing comparisons.

Especially the fact that Vergil shared comparisons with Sesshoumaru. Seems legit. On the Bleach side, no wonder why we got JYB and Stephanie Sheh as Nero and Kyrie. For those who watched the Bleach dub, you get my drift. XD

 

[nightrunner_ks]

Dude...a reboot can and usually is an "AU," because it's an entirely different (alternate) universe using the same themes the brand is known for. As a reboot, it's starting over, and as an alternate universe, it's establishing its own canon and doing things differently than what the series is known for. The best known uses of this was things like Batman, and all the different iterations of his movies. Just because you don't want to accept that its a narrative concept that can be done outside of comics doesn't mean it isn't true :/

L2comprehend.

The problem with calling DmC an alternate universe is that it implies that there is some connection between new and old Dante, and because of that, people believe in things like that ****ty Vergil T-Rex "leak"

 

[TWOxACROSS]

How does being an alternation universe imply a connection between the old and new, other then them both being Dante, but having lived different lives with different personalities?

I mean, c'mon, every single iteration of any franchise counts as an "alternate universe" because they all follow a set of themes and characters. I have a document of Peter Pan that I liked to poke around with every once in a while that's very different from the original - logically, this would be a different or alternate universe, because it shares themes and characters, but doesn't play out the same way, and has several differences. Comic books are the only ones who love to cash in off the idea by having universe mash-ups like Shattered Dimensions. And with Mr. Leaked Ending, all we had there was someone trying to get people upset over the points when "different universe" was mentioned.

 

[neccowells]

wahh DMC was based off a manga?! Are you sure? It took some stuff from the Divine Comedy but what manga?

Not entirely. the first Devil May Cry game was originally meant to be a sequel to the Resident Evil Series, but the game began to drift from the original story and ended up becoming a entirely different game. Capcom created two light novels created by Shinya Goikeda, illustrated by Shiro Miwa and published by Kadokawa Shoten. Basically story boarding the game. Originally Dante wasn't Half Human/Demon, he was a mercenary being harassed by an underworld gang ninety nine times, and he finally killed them all, and lets the boss escape. The boss was killed by scythe-wielding devils while chanting Dante's name. Dante is then being attacked by numerous Demons alongside his partner Grue. And he has a Rival by the name of Gilver, who is a katana fighter. I assume Vergil is based off Gilver in DMC3. if you want more info, wiki DMC manga.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Not entirely. the first Devil May Cry game was originally meant to be a sequel to the Resident Evil Series, but the game began to drift from the original story and ended up becoming a entirely different game. Capcom created two light novels created by Shinya Goikeda, illustrated by Shiro Miwa and published by Kadokawa Shoten. Basically story boarding the game. Originally Dante wasn't Half Human/Demon, he was a mercenary being harassed by an underworld gang ninety nine times, and he finally killed them all, and lets the boss escape. The boss was killed by scythe-wielding devils while chanting Dante's name. Dante is then being attacked by numerous Demons alongside his partner Grue. And he has a Rival by the name of Gilver, who is a katana fighter. I assume Vergil is based off Gilver in DMC3. if you want more info, wiki DMC manga.

Vergil was Gilver, and his name was an anagram Ver Gil swapped to Gil Ver. However, that novel was published in Kadokawa Shoten in 2002, after the game, so I'm pretty sure the novel was published as a supplement to DMC1, and not as part of the story board.

 

[meg5493]

Not entirely. the first Devil May Cry game was originally meant to be a sequel to the Resident Evil Series, but the game began to drift from the original story and ended up becoming a entirely different game. Capcom created two light novels created by Shinya Goikeda, illustrated by Shiro Miwa and published by Kadokawa Shoten. Basically story boarding the game. Originally Dante wasn't Half Human/Demon, he was a mercenary being harassed by an underworld gang ninety nine times, and he finally killed them all, and lets the boss escape. The boss was killed by scythe-wielding devils while chanting Dante's name. Dante is then being attacked by numerous Demons alongside his partner Grue. And he has a Rival by the name of Gilver, who is a katana fighter. I assume Vergil is based off Gilver in DMC3. if you want more info, wiki DMC manga.

well i pretty much knew that also isnt the novel noncanon now since it contradicts certain things in the series?

 

[TWOxACROSS]

According to Capcoms timeline, yeah, it's now non-canon. Although, in DMC3 Dante mentions it being "a whole year since we last met," so maybe Dante is talking about the events of the novel. Both the novel and DMC3 had oversight from Kamiya, so he probably tried to fit it together as much as possible but...DMC's timleline has always been pretty messy anyway, and the only real thing to agree on as being canon are the games themselves, which...tend to be somewhat incongruous too, sometimes

 

[meg5493]

According to Capcoms timeline, yeah, it's now non-canon. Although, in DMC3 Dante mentions it being "a whole year since we last met," so maybe Dante is talking about the events of the novel. Both the novel and DMC3 had oversight from Kamiya, so he probably tried to fit it together as much as possible but...DMC's timleline has always been pretty messy anyway, and the only real thing to agree on as being canon are the games themselves, which...tend to be somewhat incongruous too, sometimes

i always assumed they meant the DMC3 Manga but even then its iffy seeing how theres this chick named Alice that never gets mentioned again :/

 

[neccowells]

Vergil was Gilver, and his name was an anagram Ver Gil swapped to Gil Ver. However, that novel was published in Kadokawa Shoten in 2002, after the game, so I'm pretty sure the novel was published as a supplement to DMC1, and not as part of the story board.

Well, if anything, the game is originally a modernized, reshape of Dante's inferno. Gilver/Vergil are both based off Virgil from Dante's Inferno. Virgil, role was to guide Dante through hell from the request of Beatrice, Dante's lover. DmC's "limbo" is based off one of the nine circles of Hell. It's huge coincidence Inuyasha story is nearly similar to DMC.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

DMC1 took a few things from it, but wasn't really anything like the Inferno at all. Lots of names (Dante, Vergil, Trish), and a few references and themes (like the world turning upside-down to enter the Underworld), but otherwise DMC was still very much it's own thing.

InuYasha is really just your standard brother against brother shonen trope, as old as the sea :/