DmC feels like a proper prequel to DMC1

[Zey]

I don't think DmC Dante wanted to kill him either maybe his devil side got the best of him

His face after that was still the same, no sign of remorse.

Even so, he could've visibly shown he was maturing. I couldn't really see how he was any different from how he started. He was still talking about parties, and all, so I couldn't see a character change right away.

Personality wise, DMC1 Dante is just a bit more mature and less cocky than DMC3 Dante, isn't really that much change. Aside from that, like I said, he has a purpose and much more experience than his younger self.

No more like "If you say something bad about DMC in general, you are a DmC fanboy" which isn't the case because I don't like DmC neither.

Did I say "don't get mad because I called him Donte"? You assumed that I would be mad because you called names, don't get away like that.

 

[Cabbage Detective]

His face after that was still the same, no sign of remorse.

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I thought nephilim weren't suppose to show emotion (or was that in the older games?)

 

[EvilX-81]

Do we even have a definate story of how Mundus was defeated by Sparda. It could have been just luck that Sparda won...or maybe Sparda was physically stronger than Mundus...

As for DmC, I get the feeling Sparda surrendered himself to Mundus to stop him looking for his children.Put it this way; if thy couldn't find Dante 10+ years after the house raid, then I doubt they would find Sparda. So the only way Mundus could have punished Sparda was if Sparda turned himself in.

I imagine something like Sparda making a last ditch effort against Mundus, knowing he will never stop looking for him. Living with the sons for afew years and leaving behind the weapons for his sons he begins his last attempt to take down Mundus. Mindwiping his sons, he goes on a roaring rampage of revenge for his wife, but no matter what, Mundus has near infinite reserves of minions, and himself is f*ckin' invincible and practically all-powerful so long as he is connected to the Hell Gate.

After failing under torture to get the information out of him of where his child is, Mundus banishes his once bloodbrother to Hell and Sparda laughs, knowing what he and his wife have set up for his future; afterall, they gave Vergil the Yamato, which plays an integral part in making Mundus vulnerable.

 

[Bazilican]

Did I say "don't get mad because I called him Donte"? You assumed that I would be mad because you called names, don't get away like that.

I didn't assume you'd get mad. I just naturally have to put that in because it seems that people get really mad when DMC Dante is insulted.

 

[V's patron]

since the reboot was billed as a origin story that makes sense and since DmC follows the same beats as DMC3 which is good and bad you dont need to those events again.

Im wonder how the game would have turned out had it been TGS10 Dante tho as it might have been more interesting had they done more with his new past and his new connections to angels.

im not saying they have to reuse the old plots as they should try to do their own thing. Repeating characters is fine tho.

off topic- Well the interesting thing about the old DMC was most characters aren't fleshed out in terms of backstory so you could have revealed the events of DMC4 happened but with Dante/Vergil as they could have grown up in Fortuna. The only thing you really know about them is their mom died so what they did before DMC3 has a lot of freedom.

 

[Bazilican]

since the reboot was billed as a origin story that makes sense and since DmC follows the same beats as DMC3 which is good and bad you dont need to those events again.

Im wonder how the game would have turned out had it been TGS10 Dante tho as it might have been more interesting had they done more with his new past and his new connections to angels.

im not saying they have to reuse the old plots as they should try to do their own thing. Repeating characters is fine tho.

off topic- Well the interesting thing about the old DMC was most characters aren't fleshed out in terms of backstory so you could have revealed the events of DMC4 happened but with Dante/Vergil as they could have grown up in Fortuna. The only thing you really know about them is their mom died so what they did before DMC3 has a lot of freedom.

Thus DmC kind of steps in?

 

[V's patron]

Thus DmC kind of steps in?

nah because you would have to ignore the half-angel thing and mundus was already defeated but a posible dmC2 could have a mature Dante that was reminiscent of DMC1.

 

[Chancey289]

At the end of DmC the entire world gets exposed to demons and they now run freely among the populace. The world is now coexisting with demons so what do you think this might bring now? I'm putting my bet on people who will turn killing demons in to a special service for some profit. I think Devil May Cry should be accepting applications soon.

Sounds like a decent set up for the world that we were exposed to in the beginning but, it's still not canon to the DMC series being a whole other universe and all.

DMC doesn't have a prequel. I can't consider DMC 3 to be the prequel to Devil May Cry when it flat out contradicts the canon established in the first game. DMC is riddled with plot holes and continuity issues now. They really do not know how to get it together with the plot.Capcom really does suck with storytelling and structure.

 

[EvilX-81]

At the end of DmC the entire world gets exposed to demons and they now run freely among the populace. The world is now coexisting with demons so what do you think this might bring now? I'm putting my bet on people who will turn killing demons in to a special service for some profit. I think Devil May Cry should be accepting applications soon.

I was thinking demon factions quickly and perhaps desperately grabbing whatever power/land they can from the power vaccum Mundus's death left behind and the clash with the rebelling humans causing a proverbial World War D. But the humans hunting demons for profit thing would probably come some time later after things calmed down and the demons have been beaten back into hiding.

Sounds like a decent set up for the world that we were exposed to in the beginning but, it's still not canon to the DMC series being a whole other universe and all.

DMC doesn't have a prequel. I can't consider DMC 3 to be the prequel to Devil May Cry when it flat out contradicts the canon established in the first game. DMC is riddled with plot holes and continuity issues now. They really do not know how to get it together with the plot.Capcom really does suck with storytelling and structure.

What are some of the contradictions? I know I've heard about this before, but I can't think of much anything off the bat even now.

 

[Chancey289]

I was thinking demon factions quickly and perhaps desperately grabbing whatever power/land they can from the power vaccum Mundus's death left behind and the clash with the rebelling humans causing a proverbial World War D. But the humans hunting demons for profit thing would probably come some time later after things calmed down and the demons have been beaten back into hiding.



What are some of the contradictions? I know I've heard about this before, but I can't think of much anything off the bat even now.

One big one is how in the first game we were told Dante lost his mother AND brother 20 years ago. It is confirmed that Dante is 28 in DMC 1. DMC 3 Dante was 19. That's only a 9 year gap between DMC 1 and 3 and this totally throws out the window the 20 years I was told because evidently Dante didn't lose his brother 20 years ago and has been seeing him on and off throughout his life.Everyone was just playing dumb? Yea, they didn't think any of this through after Kamiya left.

 

[VineBigBoss]

>this thread

 

[Martius]

I thought nephilim weren't suppose to show emotion (or was that in the older games?)

There are no nephilims in original series.

 

[Cabbage Detective]

There are no nephilims in original series.

not the nephilim the "no emotion" part

 

[Chancey289]

I don't think DmC Dante wanted to kill him either maybe his devil side got the best of him

Dante didn't want to kill his brother in DmC. He tries to talk him out of it multiple times. Before the battle starts he's trying to convince Vergil he is speaking nonsense and says stuff like "don't make me do this." Dante always held the ideal to fight against oppression. It's why his sword is named Rebellion even.

Even the part when Dante gets the upper hand he goes "It's not too late brother." and Vergil just responds with a "Yes it is." and knocks him like 20 feet. That's showing that Vergil is looking to KILL DANTE. He knows to stop his brother he may have to do something he doesn't want to do. At the end when he stabs him he's got no choice but to kill Vergil but Kat kind of snaps him out of that rage. He picks up his brother and Dante seeing his brother go off gets him depressed.

He doesn't think there is hope for Vergil. He's watching his brother leave knowing damn well in the future Vergil will return and cause problems down the line. He feels as though it's inevitable that he will have to probably kill his brother and he doesn't like that idea.

The original Dante's motivation was seriously just revenge. He even just freaking flat out says it in DMC 1. Devil May Cry was him trying to find the demons that killed his family.

Dante in DmC however isn't looking for revenge because he's just got nothing. He's not living really he's just surviving. When Vergil and Kat find him they give Dante context on his life. He understands more about what's really been going on. Why his life has been terrible and also that the entire world has succumb under the rule of demons. Sure Dante wants to get back at Mundus for personally screwing up everything he had good previously in his life but also simply because Dante wants to save the world.

He gives a sh!t about mankind and isn't just doing it because he wanted something to do on his weekend. Hell. he's fighting to save a world that actually sees him as the bad guy. He's public enemy number one and people are terrified of him. The world doesn't give him a reason to be a hero for them. He does though because it's what's right. Dante killing Vergil would be a choice that would have to be done for the greater good. Even though it pains him to lose him *le gasp* similar to the relationship they shared in the previous game. So I guess it's not so different after all.

In fact Dante's arc in DmC mirror's Sparda's Legacy and I can see making DmC a more Dante centric story arc would also mean maybe Dante would be the Legendary Hero instead of always living in his dad's shadow like he does in the previous series. Those games can't go 5 minutes without reminding you he is the son of Sparda.

My favorite Dante is from the very first game but at least DmC Dante is a more dynamic character that has more of an actual character arc here than any other version of him. Dante was originally about as complex as a coloring book and people really rose-tinted these characters. My personal favorite Dante is from DMC 1 but I'd have to say the more well rounded character is DmC's Dante.

 

[LysseC]

I was thinking demon factions quickly and perhaps desperately grabbing whatever power/land they can from the power vaccum Mundus's death left behind and the clash with the rebelling humans causing a proverbial World War D. But the humans hunting demons for profit thing would probably come some time later after things calmed down and the demons have been beaten back into hiding.

That's something similar to what I have been thinking too. In Mission 20 we are shown a city that has been destroyed, partly because of the fight against Mundus, but I suspect that is was also partly because demons, not out in the open, started running freely, causing panic and deaths. And we should also consider that it's probable that many people who occupy pivotal roles in the power structure of the world are (and thus will be shown as) demons or demon collaborators (in the comic members of the police forces are demons); so it is probable that the world is gonna face a collapse of the power structure, and would go in the direction of a "demon apocalypse".
In this situations, it is most probable that the surviving humans would have to join together and create groups of fighters. I think this is going in the direction of a situation a la The Walking Dead, or like Fallout, with small communities creating independent "states".
It is probable that Dante, Kat and what remains of the Order will play a central role in this. I would doubt, however, that, if Dante creates something akin to the Devil May Cry agency (I think it could be a group of fighters), it would be called "Devil May Cry" in DmC, as strange as it may sound, since the name of the games comes from that. But the problem is, why should DmC Dante call his group of fighters "Devil May Cry"? The issue of demons showing emotions has not been really explicitly touched in DmC, so I don't see any reason for DmC Dante conjuring up such a name as of yet (unless, however, the future events bring such issue under the spotlight...).

 

[MephistoCarnival]

No more like "If you say something bad about DMC in general, you are a DmC fanboy" which isn't the case because I don't like DmC neither.

So,I still don't understand why people who don't like either DMC or DmC are still arguing on this forum just for the sake of annoying each other. -_-
I don't refer to you,don't get me wrong,but I've seen a lot of people who do this,that I don't see the purpose of it anymore...

When it comes to both games,I'm neutral.But this won't stop me proving facts or opinions of both of the games,being them positive or negative.I won't treat any of them differently.I will say my opinion even if it doesn't appeal to somebody(but with solid arguments,of course.)

 

[MephistoCarnival]

It is probable that Dante, Kat and what remains of the Order will play a central role in this. I would doubt, however, that, if Dante creates something akin to the Devil May Cry agency (I think it could be a group of fighters), it would be called "Devil May Cry" in DmC, as strange as it may sound, since the name of the games comes from that. But the problem is, why should DmC Dante call his group of fighters "Devil May Cry"? The issue of demons showing emotions has not been really explicitly touched in DmC, so I don't see any reason for DmC Dante conjuring up such a name as of yet (unless, however, the future events bring such issue under the spotlight...).

It would be interesting for Dante to form some kind of group or agency similar to the one in DMC. But the name of it,then again,it should have been better for this game to have another name other than Devil may Cry,since the old games are focused more on the balance between soul(emotions) and power and brotherly conflicts,and the reboot is more focused on political aspects rather than what the original games were based on.( one of the reasons I liked the idea of the old ones)

 

[Stylish Nero]

One big one is how in the first game we were told Dante lost his mother AND brother 20 years ago. It is confirmed that Dante is 28 in DMC 1. DMC 3 Dante was 19. That's only a 9 year gap between DMC 1 and 3 and this totally throws out the window the 20 years I was told because evidently Dante didn't lose his brother 20 years ago and has been seeing him on and off throughout his life.Everyone was just playing dumb? Yea, they didn't think any of this through after Kamiya left.

The DMC3 manga revealed that Dante thought Vergil was dead too prior to them meeting up in the manga and even the demons thought Dante was the last survivor of the attack.

Whether the manga is still canon is debatable considering Dante mentions a reunion he and Vergil had a year ago (the same reunion in DMC3 manga and since the guy who wrote the DMC3 manga was Noboru Sugimara, the same guy who mostly wrote DMC1's plot, and the DMC1 novel Kamiya wrote was before DMC1 and it shows Vergil still alive as Gilver)....sooooooo was Vergil being captured and brain washed at age 8 ever the original plan?

Answer this question:

If Vergil was captured at age 8 and "fell to evil" says Trish so why does Nelo Angelo looks so old and not per say an a8 year old.

 

[Cabbage Detective]

The DMC3 manga revealed that Dante thought Vergil was dead too prior to them meeting up in the manga and even the demons thought Dante was the last survivor of the attack.

Whether the manga is still canon is debatable considering Dante mentions a reunion he and Vergil had a year ago (the same reunion in DMC3 manga and since the guy who wrote the DMC3 manga was Noboru Sugimara, the same guy who mostly wrote DMC1's plot, and the DMC1 novel Kamiya wrote was before DMC1 and it shows Vergil still alive as Gilver)....sooooooo was Vergil being captured and brain washed at age 8 ever the original plan?

Answer this question:

If Vergil was captured at age 8 and "fell to evil" says Trish so why does Nelo Angelo looks so old and not per say an a8 year old.

Because that's Wesker in disguise :troll:

 

[Stylish Nero]

Because that's Wesker in disguise :troll: