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LordOfDarkness
LordOfDarkness
Eh, well we'll see what happens when Last Jedi comes out. Seems pointless to carry on beating on TFA now.
DragonMaster2010
DragonMaster2010
Past Transformers or Last knight Transformers?
WolfOD64
WolfOD64
@LordOfDarkness Considering TFA remains the narrative basis for the rest of the films in this trilogy, with almost none of the film's problems being vocalized to the same crew that'll work on this new film in the mountains of unconditional praise from release, I doubt anything will change for the better. Even the name of the new film is derived from prior material.
WolfOD64
WolfOD64
@DragonMaster2010 I would assume Past Transformers. I'd liken Last Knight to Rogue One: visceral, bombastic nonsense that you enjoy for entirely guilty reasons. And yet it took more risks and was a thousand times more fulfilling than TFA ever was. When the spin-off film has more originality and a more compelling narrative than your main film, even AFTER being crippled by reshoots, there's a problem.
Teal
Teal
I was never a fan of the original Star Wars, but while watching The Force Awakens, I couldn't shake the feeling that Abrams and Disney made that movie just so they could profit on the nostalgia alone. I'm sure Disney will try to be more innovative on the subsequent entries.
LordOfDarkness
LordOfDarkness
I wish people would stop using that whole nostalgia complaint. It's so overused as an argument these days.
WolfOD64
WolfOD64
Honestly, I think @Teal is right. The film was just an exercise in nostalgia-pandering, and did practically nothing to further the franchise's lore and mythos. Not only did it undo everything ROTJ sought to remedy, i.e., the Rebel-Empire conflict and the presence of Jedi, but it also kept the same look of Stormtroopers, TIEs & X-Wings, and samey-looking planets after what had been 30 in-universe years.
WolfOD64
WolfOD64
...the difference, is that the writers and production team received nothing but praise for doing precisely that, for lazily recreating the OG Trilogy's look and feel, so I have no hope in them improving...at least, not before this trilogy's over.
LordOfDarkness
LordOfDarkness
I'm still sick of seeing it being brought up, regardless.
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