Kamiya Wants to Remake 1 (Again)

Nothing new. This is something that pops up every few years.

Things are different now. Before, the idea was a non starter. P+ had left Capcom and freelancing a job like that was a complicated affair. But now, he's making his long awaited sequel. 20 years. A DMC1 remake could, ideally, take a fraction of the time Okami's sequel would take to make. Working with Capcom is no longer some impossible thing, he's doing it right now. Not to mention, they seem to be going trigger happy with remakes.

I don't know that I like this, thought. He's got years of action games under his belt but DMC1 was a special game. There are almost none like it. None of its sequels are. 1 isn't like Bayonetta, either. The tone and style of gameplay are not compatible. Can he really make a faithful adaptation.

Modernize it? Sure. Keep or replicate it's spirit? I don't know. I do know that he can make an action game. His team and him created the genre. Modernizing it isn't the issue for me. That I know he can do. It's the finer details.

Take a look at this video.

The game is full of things like this. While I'm sure someone can make an argument for the rest of the series. it's always a small thing compared to things like this. A system like this wouldn't work on a modern DMC or a Bayonetta. Yeah, that fight with Cavalier, but that fight was based on this. There is no other fight like it in DMC. There are no other games like DMC1, even in Kamiya's repertoire. I think he needs the team that made that first game if he wants to remake it.

Goldsickle said:

DMC1 was more open to different kinds of gameplay, like first-person swimming, aerial boss battle and a vehicle escape sequence at the end.

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It's kind of an odd situation. This is because DMC1 was an RE game while the others are DMC games. Kind of a paradox.

One of the most informative videos I've seen for the game is this one

He mentions this a lot, too (Also talks a lot about the design philosophy that makes DMC1 what it is). In fact, I don't think he mentions the other games even once. He treats the game as an isolated project and it kind of goes to my point (well, our point, I suppose). 1 is the only one in the series where you can ignore every other game in the series and treat it as a singular title rather than a game in a series. This is because 2 & 3 are hinged to 1 and 4, m, and 5 are to 3, even more than to 1. 1 can be its own experience. 2 & 3 can technically be, too, but they are based on 1 while 1 is, like Onimusha, a repurposed RE game that can be, and is, its own entity. In this I could even argue that DMC1 itself has never had a sequel that tried to replicate its spirit. That's not entirely fair to 3 but it's not an exaggeration, either.

XELNAGATYLER said:

Absolutely, and I think this is why a lot of DMC fans aren't fond about DMC1 these days. They think they can play and experience it like the other DMC's but that's just not the way it's meant to be.

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One of the debates I have with people online when the topic of a remake pops up is how a lot of combo... enthusiasts, let's call them, want a 1 remake to play and look like 5. Get Reuben to voice Dante, add styles, make air combos, get rid of everything that isn't combat, add a bloody palace, put weapons from the other games in and so on. Those tend to deteriorate into fights because I argue that doing that would completely erase what makes 1 special, that even the parts that qualify as bad add to the experience and give it its unique appeal. They don't care. They just want more of the same. I call them morons for not understanding why things work or why only caring about the superficial is why one one asks them on tips on game design, they call me other names (once someone even told me to just kill myself over it. mods did nothing, by the way. Useless fks). It's never pretty.

My point being that those people don't know why DMC1 works as a game, nor care. They don't see its appeal and would rather rewrite history to get their fanatic way than just allow the game to be. Their focus is singular and narrow. like a Halo/CoD kid who doesn't understand why anyone would play any other FPS.

Over the years, though, since 5, I think, people have been rediscovering the game. I've seen people in 4chan who were dissatisfied with 5 so they go to the other games and find that 1 has something they can't place that the other games lack. For a lot of people it's almost and intangible quality.