So new DMC animated series are coming to Netflix
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Ya that works for me, our watch party of 2 on discord lol
Hope the mods are able to handle the crowd control
Hope the mods are able to handle the crowd control
It looks slow and clunky, and that shot of him in the air upside down looked off.
I am not sure the people involved know what it takes to capture DMC properly, but maybe with time they can get better especially if there is enough constructive feedback by fans.
I am not sure the people involved know what it takes to capture DMC properly, but maybe with time they can get better especially if there is enough constructive feedback by fans.
Bosch voicing Dante immediately had me seeing those demons as Hollows.
His clothes still ticks me off, painfully bland. What? Dante will change outfit later? I have to endure looking at Dante's boring clothes if I watch this show?
it sounds like the series is gonna be nostalgia bait. I liked 3 but the series was never able to move past it and it doesn't sounds like this one is gonna do it either.
maybe season 2?
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Ya they can't pick a style, it's a mish mash of DMC3, DMC4 and DmC rolled into one, and his hair is more like DMC1 or DMC2 dante, or nero from 4
Yeah, that was-- I don't don't know the word. I don't like the word cringe but... disappointing is a bit too much but I definitely wasn't impressed. Johnny always does great work but his voice is too distinctive to be confused for Dante's. The whole thing was disjointing. One certainly hopes that it's a passive thing, that once you get used to it you can tune it out. The issues are almost everywhere else. The animation is passable; not great but this is a pretty small scene so other, more important, places might get more attention.
I think the reason this was so twitch inducing is because this is how everyone's done it and it's getting old. Everytime someone portrays some badass in their early days they always want to make them an dumbass, a completely and utterly unimpressive wanker. He might have the skills but he certainly doesn't have the the attitude. You might say he got Thor'd. Not fat, in this case, but certainly not the height of his badassery. I think that's where the expression came from, too, and not because he was the first but because he's the most blatant. The idea is to make him the boy that would eventually become that man but, holy crap, mate. Interpreting inexperience as socially incompetent or equating it to him socially and behaviorally incomplete, I guess is the word, seems to be the trend and it just doesn't vibe with me. I saw something like this in that Star Trek movie, Section 31, and it was not good there, either. The character just wasn't right, like, at all.
The tone is a bit erratic, too. The mom going from scared to that look that says 'oh, my god, that was stupid, please stop talking' disrupts the whole scene. Quick side note, that baby should be screaming during this whole thing. Babies are very sensitive to the air and sounds around them and if there are demons attacking their mom they should be scare shtlss, not to mention, the man just unloaded on those things. You ever try to keep a baby from waking up? A gunshot will have one crying for hours. Anyway. You have the woman, who is actually crying, clearly scare, which is a very normal reaction, not particularly stylised, and at the end she even crawls away. Again, not a very stylised thing to do. Dante comes in, she stops, scared of him, too, still a normal reaction but, then, he drops that dialogue which, I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it, it was pretty stupid. For her to go from this very grounded reaction to giving an expression that is very clearly made for comedic effect, it just doesn't go well. If it was all set up for a joke going all in on the stylised reaction would've been more appropriate. By stylised, I mean, for example, if when the demons are dead she'd react with an 'oh, my hero' or having her say some stupid stuff herself that add a personality, even if it's cliche of obvious, but she's a mute character who is just there for the set up, which is fine, if it all went on one concept. If she took her baby and ran away from Dante it would've been a more tonally appropriate reaction. For the one she gave it would've been better to have her behaved more like an 80's action movie character in a hostage situation.
The fastest way to make your title unaccessible is to put pop culture references because they always age and they are not universal. Having one is already kinda fourth wall breaking, but two? That was really bad. I think I'm going to watch this in Spanish and see how they compensate for all the American pop culture references. I'm kinda worried this is why the pick the song for the OP, too, that they pick the song because it's that song and not because of the music, meaning they pick that song because of its cultural significance and not because it was song that fit the tone they were going for. DMC has never been about pop culture references and putting them in there just doesn't sit well with me.
I really want to comment on Dante but I think I'll wait to see how it goes with the first episode.
I think the reason this was so twitch inducing is because this is how everyone's done it and it's getting old. Everytime someone portrays some badass in their early days they always want to make them an dumbass, a completely and utterly unimpressive wanker. He might have the skills but he certainly doesn't have the the attitude. You might say he got Thor'd. Not fat, in this case, but certainly not the height of his badassery. I think that's where the expression came from, too, and not because he was the first but because he's the most blatant. The idea is to make him the boy that would eventually become that man but, holy crap, mate. Interpreting inexperience as socially incompetent or equating it to him socially and behaviorally incomplete, I guess is the word, seems to be the trend and it just doesn't vibe with me. I saw something like this in that Star Trek movie, Section 31, and it was not good there, either. The character just wasn't right, like, at all.
The tone is a bit erratic, too. The mom going from scared to that look that says 'oh, my god, that was stupid, please stop talking' disrupts the whole scene. Quick side note, that baby should be screaming during this whole thing. Babies are very sensitive to the air and sounds around them and if there are demons attacking their mom they should be scare shtlss, not to mention, the man just unloaded on those things. You ever try to keep a baby from waking up? A gunshot will have one crying for hours. Anyway. You have the woman, who is actually crying, clearly scare, which is a very normal reaction, not particularly stylised, and at the end she even crawls away. Again, not a very stylised thing to do. Dante comes in, she stops, scared of him, too, still a normal reaction but, then, he drops that dialogue which, I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it, it was pretty stupid. For her to go from this very grounded reaction to giving an expression that is very clearly made for comedic effect, it just doesn't go well. If it was all set up for a joke going all in on the stylised reaction would've been more appropriate. By stylised, I mean, for example, if when the demons are dead she'd react with an 'oh, my hero' or having her say some stupid stuff herself that add a personality, even if it's cliche of obvious, but she's a mute character who is just there for the set up, which is fine, if it all went on one concept. If she took her baby and ran away from Dante it would've been a more tonally appropriate reaction. For the one she gave it would've been better to have her behaved more like an 80's action movie character in a hostage situation.
The fastest way to make your title unaccessible is to put pop culture references because they always age and they are not universal. Having one is already kinda fourth wall breaking, but two? That was really bad. I think I'm going to watch this in Spanish and see how they compensate for all the American pop culture references. I'm kinda worried this is why the pick the song for the OP, too, that they pick the song because it's that song and not because of the music, meaning they pick that song because of its cultural significance and not because it was song that fit the tone they were going for. DMC has never been about pop culture references and putting them in there just doesn't sit well with me.
I really want to comment on Dante but I think I'll wait to see how it goes with the first episode.
I thought it was disappointing from the start, and the new trailer, or however to call this, doesn't make it better.
Obviously, doesn't sound like Dante, but even the yapping at the end, that is usually not what Dante is doing. Not even in the dmc3 manga's, which Adi Shankar tried to show with these animation.
And, as said before as well, he still doesn't look like Dante and Adi just says to everything "The Style is on purpose" "That Dante sounds like Nero, has a reason". It just doesn't fit. Maybe it shouldn't, to show it is not canon, but it just is sooooo off. We are going back to the time where DmC Reboot came out and everyone was like "Dante without white hair? Bad idea", and it was.
Obviously, doesn't sound like Dante, but even the yapping at the end, that is usually not what Dante is doing. Not even in the dmc3 manga's, which Adi Shankar tried to show with these animation.
And, as said before as well, he still doesn't look like Dante and Adi just says to everything "The Style is on purpose" "That Dante sounds like Nero, has a reason". It just doesn't fit. Maybe it shouldn't, to show it is not canon, but it just is sooooo off. We are going back to the time where DmC Reboot came out and everyone was like "Dante without white hair? Bad idea", and it was.
I keep thinking they should have chosen another voice and not Nero's; it sounds weird.
The final joke is horrible—very cringe and cliché. I know Dante is very confident and playful when he fights, but I don't remember him ever making such a… bad joke. His style is more sarcastic; he doesn't make pop culture reference jokes but rather delivers quick and witty comebacks based on what's happening at the moment. I think Johnny's voice is partly to blame because it doesn't have that essence that Reuben gave the character.
Still, I have faith in the final product. I think it will be a good series, though I don't know whether I'll watch it in Japanese or Spanish.
What also surprised me is that the Reddit boys are 50/50 on what they saw—I thought they were going to be ecstatic. The comments on social media from the English audience generally didn’t like this version of Dante's personality. Meanwhile, the Spanish audience is 100% on board, saying that THIS is Dante, that this style of humor has always been part of his character (??), and that it matches the humor in the DMC3 manga (though I don’t remember him making jokes like that in the manga).
Adi seems to have taken inspiration from the Sonic movies or Reynolds’ Deadpool for this bad-joke style because, again, in the manga, I can only recall two jokes (the bunny hunting with the stripper/prostitute at Enzo's club and the "go graze" remark to Rabbi). As for the novel from DMC1, I don’t remember that attitude either. Then again, in LATAM, no one read the novel—only the summary from the YouTubers we have on this side of the world.
The final joke is horrible—very cringe and cliché. I know Dante is very confident and playful when he fights, but I don't remember him ever making such a… bad joke. His style is more sarcastic; he doesn't make pop culture reference jokes but rather delivers quick and witty comebacks based on what's happening at the moment. I think Johnny's voice is partly to blame because it doesn't have that essence that Reuben gave the character.
Still, I have faith in the final product. I think it will be a good series, though I don't know whether I'll watch it in Japanese or Spanish.
What also surprised me is that the Reddit boys are 50/50 on what they saw—I thought they were going to be ecstatic. The comments on social media from the English audience generally didn’t like this version of Dante's personality. Meanwhile, the Spanish audience is 100% on board, saying that THIS is Dante, that this style of humor has always been part of his character (??), and that it matches the humor in the DMC3 manga (though I don’t remember him making jokes like that in the manga).
Adi seems to have taken inspiration from the Sonic movies or Reynolds’ Deadpool for this bad-joke style because, again, in the manga, I can only recall two jokes (the bunny hunting with the stripper/prostitute at Enzo's club and the "go graze" remark to Rabbi). As for the novel from DMC1, I don’t remember that attitude either. Then again, in LATAM, no one read the novel—only the summary from the YouTubers we have on this side of the world.
I just remember, I used to play games called "galerians", they came out before dmc 4, where JYB voiced main character in sequel (I found the MC's fate in those games a bit funny. He already died once in first game, they revived him in sequel only to make him die 200℅). What I mean is Johnny could pull a non-Nero tone if he tried, why he still sounded like Nero when he supposedly wasn't acting like Nero this time?
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I have played Galerians too and was a big fan back then. So I checked the voice actors, but I don't see JYB did anything there. If we mean the same Galerians, the MC is Rion Steiner and was his voice actor was Dave Wittenberg
I mean the second galerians game, they had a guy with silver hair as antagonist in that game. Pretty sure Johnny voiced MC only in that game, they even named him in game credits
Ash
"Rion...don't you think humans have a suicide wish? They try to live longer, only to meet a more terrible death. They're such...sickening hypocrites." - Ash Ash (アッシュ) is the main antagonist of Galerians: Ash. He is known as the Last Galerian, the ultimate of Dorothy's creations. Actually, it is...
no JYB there, as far as I can see. I know both Galerians games. And I loved Galerians: Ash. Too bad they didn't make more games. Though googling "galerians johnny yong bosch" something comes up, but not much ^^"
Edit: okay here it shows https://galerians.fandom.com/wiki/Rion_Steiner
So it is Rion, but voice actor changed for the second game. I see. True, he does sound different there.
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Adi talking about the cringe joke and apparently it was with a intentional to be bad and out of character to show an evolution from his Dante to the Dante of DMC3 (I don't understand does he try to look it to be canon to games?)
No disrespect to adi but, bosch will not be able to bring any of those version of dante to life or give them justice. I think people need to realise it was reubens own personality that shined through.
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Bosch is probably a great guy, so I don't mean to sound like a hater, but I personally don't think he's good at voice acting.