Y'know what? I can't accept this.

[DragonMaster2010]

But if he revealed the death threats he received and i saw them for myself, then i would have loosened up to him.
I wouldn't mock Tameem for sharing with me the death threats if they indeed are death threats.

But Tameen never asked for pity like that. He wouldn't want people to suddenly feel bad for him just because of death threats. Maybe he didn't want DmC to be sold on pity.

Mad respect if that was the case.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

But Tameen never asked for pity like that. He wouldn't want people to suddenly feel bad for him just because of death threats. Maybe he didn't want DmC to be sold on pity.

Mad respect if that was the case.

How is proving that you actually got death threats pity? Because that's the thing, i don't believe he received death threats, i believe he received anti-DmC stuff and called it death threats.
And by showing death threats to me and others, you'd convince me and say "Hey your wrong i did get death threats", and that would make respect Tameem a little.

But if you and other DmC fans want to spin it around "Why would he show the death threats? For Pity? He's not like that", then go ahead.
Not like i care.

My main point as response to our post DM was that majority did not send death threats nor sign that white house dumb sh1t petition. So shaming fanbase base on basis of 1-100 people who did stupid things like that when there most likely are over 300K DMC fans...is as i said before: WRONG.

 

[Rebel Dynasty]

I do agree with IncarnatedDemon to a certain extent: I'm not sure about the number of death threats Tameem received. Whatever he received, the people who sent them need their heads examined.

However, I don't find it fair for the entire fanbase to suffer because of a handful of bad apples. Because when it really comes down to it, it's not just the anti-DmC fanbase that gets hurt; the pro side suffers, as well.

I have no intentions of being at war with other Devil May Cry fans, just because they may like the reboot when I prefer DMC 1-4. Fighting over something like that just seems insipid to me.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

I never meant to say that EVERY fan of DMC signed that petition. I meant the fact that it was even conceived in itself was embarrassing to me as a fan of the same series along with being shameful to the series.

I have no intentions of being at war with other Devil May Cry fans, just because they may like the reboot when I prefer DMC 1-4. Fighting over something like that just seems insipid to me.

You're one of the few.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

I never meant to say that EVERY fan of DMC signed that petition. I meant the fact that it was even conceived in itself was embarrassing to me as a fan of the same series along with being shameful to the series.

You took what some people did and used what they did and said that fanbase has fallen and that it can't fall anymore.
As far as i am concerned, we never fell because of death threats or white house petition. The only thing that falled when those things happened was the intellect and humanity of the people who took part in those things.

Our fanbase has really fallen.
But I don't care anymore. How far can we possibly fall after the white house petition?

 

[DragonMaster2010]

You took what some people did and used what they did and said that fanbase has fallen and that it can't fall anymore.
As far as i am concerned, we never fell because of death threats or white house petition. The only thing that falled when those things happened was the intellect and humanity of the people who took part in those things.

Where in that post did I say every fan sighed the white house petition though?
I said our fanbase has seen a lot of crap, along with those who actually decided to contact the president...about a game. That's in itself is pretty pathetic.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

I agree I love the older series way more and its always coma be that way I'm sure and its human nature to compare but I like the reboot a lot and have a lot of appreciation and respect for it and its fans one of which I am I prefer classic DMC and classic Dante but don't feel the need to hate on new Dante

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Where in that post did I say every fan sighed the white house petition though?
I said our fanbase has seen a lot of crap, along with those who actually decided to contact the president...about a game. That's in itself is pretty pathetic.

You said our fanbase has really fallen and that you dont care about it anymore as it cant fall anymore if we consider the white house petition.

That is exactly putting everyone in fanbase in same boat as those who did those things.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

You said our fanbase has really fallen and that you dont care about it anymore as it cant fall anymore if we consider the white house petition.

That is exactly putting everyone in fanbase in same boat as those who did those things.

No it's not. I didn't explicitly say "The fanbase has fallen what with EVERYONE signing the white house petition" I said that "The fanbase has fallen, and can't fall anymore since the white house petition." That doesn't mean I meant every single DMC fan.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

No it's not. I didn't explicitly say "The fanbase has fallen what with EVERYONE signing the white house petition" I said that "The fanbase has fallen, and can't fall anymore since the white house petition." That doesn't mean I meant every single DMC fan.

If you say fanbase, then that is everyone who is member of it.
If you did not mean that, then fine.

But as far as i am concerned, fanbase hasn't fallen, only those morons did.

 

[Rebel Dynasty]

I never meant to say that EVERY fan of DMC signed that petition. I meant the fact that it was even conceived in itself was embarrassing to me as a fan of the same series along with being shameful to the series.



You're one of the few.

I know, my statement wasn't really directed at you, but at the people that do lump us all into the same category as those who signed the white house petition. I've had the misfortune of conversing with one such person (not here).

Funny enough, that experience is exactly why I don't wish to partake in a Devil May Cry "civil war", so to speak. You like DmC better than certain installments of DMC, correct? I may not share your opinion, but I can and do respect it.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

If you say fanbase, then that is everyone who is member of it.
If you did not mean that, then fine.

But as far as i am concerned, fanbase hasn't fallen, only those morons did.

But from the outside looking in, those same morons have dragged us down with them, and have made a smudge on the fanbase. True, it'll all be washed away in time, but until then...

Plenty of room.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

You like DmC better than certain installments of DMC, correct? I may not share your opinion, but I can and do respect it.

And that's all I ask for. :happy:

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

But from the outside looking in, those same morons have dragged us down with them, and have made a smudge on the fanbase. True, it'll all be washed away in time, but until then...

Plenty of room.

Those who dragged us down are the lazy game writers:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/15/dmc-devil-may-cry-fans-are-a-crying-shame/
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/capcom-almost-halves-dmc-sales-expectations/0110372

But noone like Jim Sterling, IGN etc like to talk around that. I guess it's not news worthy.
Except for Erik Kain on Forbes.com.

EDIT:
Not like IGN or Jim Sterling are credible if they think a petition with aliases is credible source of news.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Those who dragged us down are the lazy game writers:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/15/dmc-devil-may-cry-fans-are-a-crying-shame/
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/capcom-almost-halves-dmc-sales-expectations/0110372

But noone like Jim Sterling, IGN etc do not like to talk around that. I guess it's not news worthy.
Except for Erik Kain on Forbes.com.

Yeah Journalist are to blame as well, but its not like the fanbase's hands were clean either.

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

Btw i found this picture of the "petition" (dumb idiots):

 

[DragonMaster2010]

"What is wrong with this Devil May Cry fanbase?"

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

"What is wrong with these Devil May Cry fanbase fans?"

 

[mrrandomlulz]

I can't accept gingers because Coppercab is one
Yet you don't see me going around whining about why they are abominations

Btw i found this picture of the "petition" (dumb idiots):

This is an OLD petition, I remember when it first hit.
Heck just look at the date

 

[IncarnatedDemon]

I can't accept gingers because Coppercab is one
Yet you don't see me going around whining about why they are abominations

This is an OLD petition, I remember when it first hit.
Heck just look at the date

Yes, and it is this old petition that DM brought up...